Chapter Discussion What did Oda mean by this?
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I think there will be some sort of theme about going with the natural order of things versus changing destiny. The World is trying to progress one way, and some people are trying to alter destiny to how they want it to go. Moving forward towards the future, versus trying to make things the way they used to be in the Void Century.
I'm just not sure which way will actually end up being the "correct" choice. Because, arguably, the World's destiny or "path" was already altered from it's "natural course" during the Void Century. So, if we go back to how things were in the Void Century, that would be going backwards...but it would also be going back to the "natural order" of things...maybe? The future that the World has been going down ever since the Void Century might be the "incorrect, unnatural" one?
There are two opposite paths that different factions are trying to lead everyone in the world down. And the endgame might be about which path they go down to determine the future.
It kind of brings a different meaning to "Stalemate", though. If there are two equal but opposite forces trying to move the future of the world in two opposite directions, that would cause a "Stalemate" and the World wouldn't be able to move at all. It would just be frozen, unable to change.
Now, I'm not sure if the planet is literally stopping spinning. It probably doesn't go quite that literal. And, I don't think that would explain the holes, anyway. I'm thinking it's mostly a metaphor. But, who knows?
If you've ever read the manga version of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, then something similar is revealed there in the last volume. And I have to wonder if Oda took a little inspiration from that.
...or it all ends with a joke. Given Oda's sense of humor, that's equally possible.
I'm just not sure which way will actually end up being the "correct" choice. Because, arguably, the World's destiny or "path" was already altered from it's "natural course" during the Void Century. So, if we go back to how things were in the Void Century, that would be going backwards...but it would also be going back to the "natural order" of things...maybe? The future that the World has been going down ever since the Void Century might be the "incorrect, unnatural" one?
There are two opposite paths that different factions are trying to lead everyone in the world down. And the endgame might be about which path they go down to determine the future.
It kind of brings a different meaning to "Stalemate", though. If there are two equal but opposite forces trying to move the future of the world in two opposite directions, that would cause a "Stalemate" and the World wouldn't be able to move at all. It would just be frozen, unable to change.
Now, I'm not sure if the planet is literally stopping spinning. It probably doesn't go quite that literal. And, I don't think that would explain the holes, anyway. I'm thinking it's mostly a metaphor. But, who knows?
If you've ever read the manga version of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, then something similar is revealed there in the last volume. And I have to wonder if Oda took a little inspiration from that.
...or it all ends with a joke. Given Oda's sense of humor, that's equally possible.
Good analogy on the stalemate part. Congrats.
I've seen this video down here from last year talking about the OP world being broken and it actually makes sense from the newest chapter's perspective:
OP world being flooded by the sea might be the original state of the OP world until someone disrupts the "Stalemate" of the world.
I've seen this video down here from last year talking about the OP world being broken and it actually makes sense from the newest chapter's perspective:
OP world being flooded by the sea might be the original state of the OP world until someone disrupts the "Stalemate" of the world.
@Devilbat we can continue the All Blue discussion here.
Like you said, I legit thinks Fishman Island is the All Blue literally lol.
Just like Usopp's lies, Sanji's gags usually come true.
Result:
But Sanji can go "invisible" without the RS now.
Then:
Result:
So yeah, two of Sanji's gags moments actually came true. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanji's crying gag about FI being the All Blue becoming true as well.
Then there's this:
Jinbei's comment of "Whatever it is, it's not Haki..." intrigues me. The power of love seems to be something different or beyond Haki.
Sanji talks about love. The only other two characters that talks about love is Hancock and Garp whom both are CoC users. Sanji appears in Volume 100 called "Conquerors".
It's probably not coincidence at this point.
Lastly, this one is not a gag but it's a future plot point:
I don't think being the most dangerous man for the Marines has anything to do with All Blue whatsoever though.
Like you said, I legit thinks Fishman Island is the All Blue literally lol.
Just like Usopp's lies, Sanji's gags usually come true.
Result:
But Sanji can go "invisible" without the RS now.
Then:
Result:
So yeah, two of Sanji's gags moments actually came true. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanji's crying gag about FI being the All Blue becoming true as well.
Then there's this:
Jinbei's comment of "Whatever it is, it's not Haki..." intrigues me. The power of love seems to be something different or beyond Haki.
Sanji talks about love. The only other two characters that talks about love is Hancock and Garp whom both are CoC users. Sanji appears in Volume 100 called "Conquerors".
It's probably not coincidence at this point.
Lastly, this one is not a gag but it's a future plot point:
I don't think being the most dangerous man for the Marines has anything to do with All Blue whatsoever though.
@Devilbat we can continue the All Blue discussion here.
Like you said, I legit thinks Fishman Island is the All Blue literally lol.
Just like Usopp's lies, Sanji's gags usually come true.
Result:
But Sanji can go "invisible" without the RS now.
Then:
Result:
So yeah, two of Sanji's gags moments actually came true. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanji's crying gag about FI being the All Blue becoming true as well.
Then there's this:
Jinbei's comment of "Whatever it is, it's not Haki..." intrigues me. The power of love seems to be something different or beyond Haki.
Sanji talks about love. The only other two characters that talks about love is Hancock and Garp whom both are CoC users. Sanji appears in Volume 100 called "Conquerors".
It's probably not coincidence at this point.
Lastly, this one is not a gag but it's a future plot point:
I don't think being the most dangerous man for the Marines has anything to do with All Blue whatsoever though.
Like you said, I legit thinks Fishman Island is the All Blue literally lol.
Just like Usopp's lies, Sanji's gags usually come true.
Result:
But Sanji can go "invisible" without the RS now.
Then:
Result:
So yeah, two of Sanji's gags moments actually came true. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanji's crying gag about FI being the All Blue becoming true as well.
Then there's this:
Jinbei's comment of "Whatever it is, it's not Haki..." intrigues me. The power of love seems to be something different or beyond Haki.
Sanji talks about love. The only other two characters that talks about love is Hancock and Garp whom both are CoC users. Sanji appears in Volume 100 called "Conquerors".
It's probably not coincidence at this point.
Lastly, this one is not a gag but it's a future plot point:
I don't think being the most dangerous man for the Marines has anything to do with All Blue whatsoever though.
Ofc I believe in Sanji and I think Oda should show him using CoC eventually, although if he doesn't but has and the power of love which seems to be a big thing, I would be cool with that as well.
All Blue situation is a little puzzling for me, I thought FI is already All Blue for Sanji, and if there's anything else on top - okay, if no - I'll keep believing Sanji already found his All Blue and is just hanging out with SHP being a kind fella he is, helping them to achieve their dreams, it's very Sanji-like:)
