Break Week What if #1: Kaido and Big Mom won

#1
Kaido succeeds in landing Onigashima. Luffy is dead. The Straw Hats one by one lose to Kaido and Big Mom. Law is killed, while Kidd escapes.
The New Onigashima Project is in full swing.

The Beast Mom Alliance has 3 Poneglyphs

New Bounties:
For defeating notorious pirate "5th Yonko" Luffy, Kaidos bounty is raised to a whopping 5.1 Billion
Kings new bounty is 1.8 billion
Queen receives bounty of 1.7 billion
Jack is raised to 1.3 billion
Big Moms bounty is now 4.8 billion.
Smoothie gets a raise to 1.2 billion, above Katakuri
My glorious king Perospero gets a new bounty of 800 million

The Blackbeard Pirates attack Whole Cake and get wrecked by Big Mom as she returns...
 
#2
Eh, imo they wouldn't get a raise for defeating 3 upstarts. Especially when the numbers and power advantage was on BM and Kaido's side.
They would, maybe, get a raise due to the alliance but it would need to operate a bit longer and not be short lived. If the WG knew they had 3 poneglyphs then that would warrant a raise imo

Other than that, in the long run, they lose against the combined might of the WG and Marines + BB and Shanks attacking them + infighting
 
#3
Hmm. I think its more interesting to think what marines and shanks will do. With both yonko allying , they became the biggest threat to WG/Marines.

The duo can either beat other yonkos and then go to war against WG/Marines which unfortunately they will lose. Imu + gorosei + admirals will beat them. But it will be one hell of a battle.

If they are able to get their hands on pluton and use it , they can win maybe but imu has uranus.
 
#4
Kaidou's bounty would certainly increase. The amount of effort this monster put in is far from being replicated by anyone, especially considering Izo's bounty of 510,000,000 Berries. And keep in mind, Izo wasn't even the strongest member of the Red Scabbards, all of whom Kaidou defeated on his own. This alone would easily push him to 10 billion. And we're not even factoring in how many times Kaidou kicked Luffy's butt, who had a 1.5 billion bounty. Considering the scenario, it means Kaidou had beaten Gear 5 Luffy once again, since Kaidou came out as the victor in this fanfic. All this accumulated could easily reach 20 billion or more.

Giving Kaidou more numbers is enough, because that's what he needs—a large army to hold off his opponents until he finishes off whoever he's facing. With his resilience being the highest in the entire series and him being the strongest king of 1v1 combat, he'd be unbeatable. With greater numbers, he wouldn't need to worry about facing multiple opponents jumping him. He could focus on his specialty: being the best 1v1 fighter in the whole series.
 
#5
Also Oda turns into G.R.R.M. (who can write 1 chapter a week), plot power and Nika are defeated.

The biggest plot point would be that Kaido managed to defeat a prophecy bending fate, heavenly will, Nika is not reborn, the child of the prophecy is dead. Now I would have 2 scenarios:

1) Luffy keeps his plot power even if dead and every "good guy" friend of Luffy is pissed at Kaido and BM. A big alliance of justice is made to take revenge on the evil Kaido. I would put in basically everyone in the manga who is not evil or neutral lol. This alliance would have Dragon and the revos, Shanks and his crew, Garp, Boa, old Ray, all the kingdoms allied to Luffy (Alabasta, Dressrosa, Fishman island, Water7 etc.), then there are big maybes that could actually don't care at all or be enraged like Mihawk. At this point the WG could even ally with Kaido and BM but that is stretching it too much. Big battle but in the end the alliance is too big and too strong, Kaido and BM are defeated by the world is still doomed to fall under Im or BB influence. Also about BB I don't think he will organize his plan so badly so that BM has the time to return to WCI to stop him, also she would be exhausted after the fight so I don't see her outsmart BB..

2) The world works according to logic: Kaido and BM are a huge threat, a lot of guys are very pissed at Kaido and BM (see the above) but making an alliance is difficult plus now there is a big incident either way.. Kaido and BM are weak and GB is in the area, he tries to attack them, considering everything I would say he manages to take out some injured YCs before he even manages to escape. The real problem is that there is also Shanks in the area.. he could very well wreck both the injured Kaido and BM, he also has a good reason to do it (the killed the golden boy he gave the straw hat to), actually he would most likely do it by that point without caring so much and go look personally for BB after that (this would actually be pretty cool, Shanks takes the lead being a more ruthless MC than Luffy just like he was with Kidd, and he wasn't even totally pissed). Another fun thing could actually be Shanks and GB allying in order to kill Kaido and BM, Shanks is assured they will be killed and not captured while GB takes the credit.

Either way this Kaido BM alliance would be short lived and don't change their fate too much. From that point depending if Shanks is bloodlusted and what relation he wants to have with the WG he could even jump GB after Kaido and BM are done. Anyway the danger for him will keep being BB. Just thay this time he must act alone (if he actually can do it) and there isn't much time since BB gets stronger and stronger. At this point maybe they could clash and either BB or Shanks is killed. But the other is weakened just like the WB remnants after Marineford (the winner will be heavily damaged either way). Now they can be jumped by the WG, the revos and even Buggy depending on his guts and if Mihawk and Croco agree. But this stuff needs a closure. Both BB and Shanks die either way. Now Buggy will try to find the OP alone and eventually succeed or fail but the point is that he isn't the child of the prophecy so nothing will happen and even Im wouldn't care about it. Oh, Vegapunk is killed by the CP9 according to the plan. The revis and the WG are left, the WG is far stronger, the revis are eventually obliterated. Im reign keeps going on forever (or at least until a new child if the prophecy is born).

If we want to go on with the Kaido BM alliance let's say Shanks is not in the area and same goes for GB. Everybody gets a feast after the arc and recovers (typical SH ending of an arc). Now the WG is relieved one of his 2 big targets is dead (Luffy) but the Kaido BM alliance is still a problem, for sure comparable to the former Rocks crew. BB adopts a low profile, maybe even disappear like the Revos did with Baltigo, until somebody has dealt with Kaido and BM. Shanks is destroyed by luffy death but his target is still BB (just that like before he now most likely has to deal with him personally). At this point what could Kaido and BM do? Let's say they manage to cooperate peacefully and don't try to kill eachother at every occasion. Since Kaido was interested in df I guess he tries to steal the secret of stealing df powers from BB crew (ala kills a df user and have a fresh fruit close by ready to absorb the power) and most likely manages to get it by bribing or beating an high level BB commander. BM could try to accomplis her dream to ally with the giants and even if they are strong they are still weaker than the Kaido and BM alliance, in the end she enslaves a lot of them, the others are killed (and probably the island and the tree burned).

Now they would just crash in the WG who is still too big for them.. the 5 gorosei, admirals, holy knights etc. attack all of them together. They could even made an agreement with Shanks and BB to have them do nothing while the WG deals with Kaido and Bm (BB is not trustworthy and could very well backstab but it is also true that Shanks could use this chance to attack BB)(and there are still the revos but they too are pissed at Kaido and BM and want them dead so who knows). Or just have a single group (admirals, holy knights etc.) stay behind to defend the fort while the others attack the Kaido Bm alliance.
 
#8
Also Oda turns into G.R.R.M. (who can write 1 chapter a week), plot power and

If we want to go on with the Kaido BM alliance let's say Shanks is not in the area and same goes for GB. Everybody gets a feast after the arc and recovers (typical SH ending of an arc). Now the WG is relieved one of his 2 big targets is dead (Luffy) but the Kaido BM alliance is still a problem, for sure comparable to the former Rocks crew. BB adopts a low profile, maybe even disappear like the Revos did with Baltigo, until somebody has dealt with Kaido and BM. Shanks is destroyed by luffy death but his target is still BB (just that like before he now most likely has to deal with him personally). At this point what could Kaido and BM do? Let's say they manage to cooperate peacefully and don't try to kill eachother at every occasion. Since Kaido was interested in df I guess he tries to steal the secret of stealing df powers from BB crew (ala kills a df user and have a fresh fruit close by ready to absorb the power) and most likely manages to get it by bribing or beating an high level BB commander. BM could try to accomplis her dream to ally with the giants and even if they are strong they are still weaker than the Kaido and BM alliance, in the end she enslaves a lot of them, the others are killed (and probably the island and the tree burned).

Now they would just crash in the WG who is still too big for them.. the 5 gorosei, admirals, holy knights etc. attack all of them together. They could even made an agreement with Shanks and BB to have them do nothing while the WG deals with Kaido and Bm (BB is not trustworthy and could very well backstab but it is also true that Shanks could use this chance to attack BB)(and there are still the revos but they too are pissed at Kaido and BM and want them dead so who knows). Or just have a single group (admirals, holy knights etc.) stay behind to defend the fort while the others attack the Kaido Bm alliance.
I think you're on point for the first half, but i doubt the WG can handle them as easily as you are saying
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Yamato is tortured and begrudgingly goes along with Kaidos crew
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I think you're on point for the first half, but i doubt the WG can handle them as easily as you are saying
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Yamato is tortured and begrudgingly goes along with Kaidos crew
The WG would never attack all at once like that

They'd be wide open in the other important marine bases
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Kaido and Big mom defeating the rookies is the expected outcome

Thats why the SHs get such huge Bounty Jumps every time
A 4.6 to 5.1 billion berries isnt that big of a jump
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#9
I am doubtful that Kaido and Linlin work together successfully, over a long period of time. Linlin was getting greedy by the rooftop asking about the red poneglyph and both pirates are known for being deceitful.

I can see them knocking out another Yonko together, kind of throw their muscle around and then being drunk on this unprecedented success. Kaido wallows in the destruction he’s causing while Linlin attempts to fine tune every new island to her benefit—it’ll eventually result in the two crews fighting.

IMO the best case scenario for the alliance is taking Shanks or Teach out, then crumbling from within. Maybe there’s a bigger war between them for a bit, but that’s it
 
#10
Kaidou's bounty would certainly increase. The amount of effort this monster put in is far from being replicated by anyone, especially considering Izo's bounty of 510,000,000 Berries. And keep in mind, Izo wasn't even the strongest member of the Red Scabbards, all of whom Kaidou defeated on his own. This alone would easily push him to 10 billion. And we're not even factoring in how many times Kaidou kicked Luffy's butt, who had a 1.5 billion bounty. Considering the scenario, it means Kaidou had beaten Gear 5 Luffy once again, since Kaidou came out as the victor in this fanfic. All this accumulated could easily reach 20 billion or more.

Giving Kaidou more numbers is enough, because that's what he needs—a large army to hold off his opponents until he finishes off whoever he's facing. With his resilience being the highest in the entire series and him being the strongest king of 1v1 combat, he'd be unbeatable. With greater numbers, he wouldn't need to worry about facing multiple opponents jumping him. He could focus on his specialty: being the best 1v1 fighter in the whole series.
He has a army of 20,000 lets say lol
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

𝕷𝖔𝖗𝖉 𝖔𝖋 𝕸𝖔𝖔𝖓'𝖘 𝕾𝖕𝖆𝖜𝖓
#14
the alliance would have ended eventually. I could see one of the Holy Knights, Elbaf, Red Hair Pirates or Blackbeard Pirates falling to the alliance before it collapses though
 
#15
That's what I wanted. Fake victory for both Luffy / Law / Kid and Bigmam / Kaidou awakens.
Then they somehow make escape to Ringo region. Because Shimotsuki background and decide next attack from there.
Luffy and Zoro vs Kaidou
Law , Kidd , Yamato vs Bigmam.

Sanji is a cheer leader from 100km away.

I will write this.

Chapter 1040+
 
#16
They obviously will become the strongest pirate group period and no other Yonko crew will able to stop them unless they also teamup.
Don't think bounty will be updated because of beating upstarts (beating somebody the world believes to be weaker than you anyway )

The balance will be broken, BP + BMP will not have any equivalent rivals in the pirate world and are free to make a move.
They did say they will first seek out for the Ancient weapon and claim the one piece.

But if the WG take action ( which I'm assume they will) they could have stopped them.
So not enough to claim the one piece/throne by simply teaming up 2 Yonkos crew when you become the no.1 big target for every rivlas faction.
The only way to claim the one piece is by battle royal, unless all pirates unite.
 
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