Speculations What if Kaido went to Marine Ford and Shanks couldn't stop him?

[Black]

What if Kaido was not only with king on his way to marine ford, but with his whole crew? Do you think Shanks would've been able to stop Kaido then?
What would change on the Battlefield when Kaido arrives there? How would it affect the Narrative? I've found a very interesting What if Video regarding Kaido and him appearing on Marineford. Check it out and tell me if this would be accurate.

You can see a realistic representation that Kaido took damage on fighting shanks and his crew before he arrived. I find it also very interesting how he reacts to the dead Whitebeard. That would pretty much be accurate if you ask me. The marine only assumed that he was going to kill WB but I think he was going to assist him or at least make sure he doesn't die on the hands of the marines because of the ambition they seemingly had.

 

[Human D Luffy]

1) Kaido's crew + WB's crew vs. the marine would make MF a much more contested and interesting battle.
2) Kizaru, Sengoku and Mihawk would have to go all out.
3) I still think that 3 admirals + mihawk + sengoku + possibly garp (if he decides to fight) would be able to fend off 2 yonkos.
3) Whitebeard might have still died due to old age + numerous damages taken, but Ace would likely be saved.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Kaido dead

 

[Black]

1) Kaido's crew + WB's crew vs. the marine would make MF a much more contested and interesting battle.
2) Kizaru, Sengoku and Mihawk would have to go all out.
3) I still think that 3 admirals + mihawk + sengoku + possibly garp (if he decides to fight) would be able to fend off 2 yonkos.
3) Whitebeard might have still died due to old age + numerous damages taken, but Ace would likely be saved.

Do you think Kaido would have died in the process too? Or would he be able to win? Most of the top heads of the marines were injured somewhat and exhausted. Other than Shanks Kaido choose to fight so his crew would have assisted WBs crew.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

BcuZ oPpO sAy n0 nUmBeRs nO wIn
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[Human D Luffy]

Do you think Kaido would have died in the process too? Or would he be able to win? Most of the top heads of the marines were injured somewhat and exhausted. Other than Shanks Kaido choose to fight so his crew would have assisted WBs crew.

1) I missed the part where you mentioned that Shanks would be there to intervene. I am not sure what to make of Shanks, because he is not going to help the marine to fight against Luffy and Ace. I thought you meant if Shanks didnt stop Kaido and he ended up helping WB (at least at the beginning to beat up the marine), that they would have a shot at winning at MF.

2) It would take a miracle for the marine to kill Kaido, if he is there not just with his own crew but WB's crew as well. They captured the dude 8 times and still failed to kill him.

 

[uyuu]

3 admirals sengoku garp. Kaidou must face 5 top fighters. Imo Kaidou can beat two at most, killed by the 3rd. Yamato stall 1 in an extreme diff. King and Queen stall 1 together.

Kaidou is gonna be harder to beat than WB but he and BP still loses.

 

[Black]

3 admirals sengoku garp. Kaidou must face 5 top fighters. Imo Kaidou can beat two at most, killed by the 3rd. Yamato stall 1 in an extreme diff. King and Queen stall 2 together.

Kaidou is gonna be harder to beat than WB but he and BP still loses.

Would he only lose or die in the process? Would you have preffered him going to MF instead to see the outcome of it?
In my opinion it would have been much more epic, even if kaido ends up being defeated overall.

 

[Human D Luffy]

3 admirals sengoku garp. Kaidou must face 5 top fighters. Imo Kaidou can beat two at most, killed by the 3rd. Yamato stall 1 in an extreme diff. King and Queen stall 2 together.

Kaidou is gonna be harder to beat than WB but he and BP still loses.

we all know that kaido's crew cant take on WG by itself. I believe the question is asking would they have be able to do so with WB's crew at MF.

 

[Black]

we all know that kaido's crew cant take on WG by itself. I believe the question is asking would they have be able to do so with WB's crew at MF.

In my opinion they would win the war in a extreme difficulty if they join forces with WBs remaining crew.

 

[uyuu]

we all know that kaido's crew cant take on WG by itself. I believe the question is asking would they have be able to do so with WB's crew at MF.

I mistyped, i think King and Queen can at least stall 1 Admiral together.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

What if Kaido was not only with king on his way to marine ford, but with his whole crew? Do you think Shanks would've been able to stop Kaido then?

No, Kaido is stronger than Shanks and his crew is likely weaker but more numerous. SO if Kaido needed to, he'd of pushed past Shanks.

What would change on the Battlefield when Kaido arrives there? How would it affect the Narrative?

Well, the Whitebeard Pirates are fucked. Kaido's target is likely the dying Whitebeard who has zero time to put up with Kaido. So you'll be seeing Whitebeard busting out island cracking quakes on Kaido's ass to try and down him—if only momentarily.

The Marines & Shichibukai need to just disengage and pick on stragglers. Tho Doffy is likely pulling out of the battle to not clash with Kaido, or simply focusing on the Whitebeard Pirates.

Way I see it, the two pirate forces are going to clash hard and the Marines are likely to be the big benefactors of this. The Admirals can roam the battlefield when the Yonko forces are weaker. Don't think Kaido dies or gets captured, but I 100% think Ace is executed on the stand and Whitebeard dies raging against Akainu, the Admiralty and Kaido.

 

[Human D Luffy]

In my opinion they would win the war in a extreme difficulty if they join forces with WBs remaining crew.

How do you foresee it to play out?
Because WG still has sengoku, kizaru, garp, mihawk that haven't done much at MF, on top of that Imu (with unknown power) might even intervene if they are up against 2 Yonkos. I just don't see a scenario where even with two yonkos, they are going beat garp/sengoku/3 admirals/mihawk.

 

[Black]

How do you foresee it to play out?
Because WG still has sengoku, garp, mihawk that haven't done much at MF, on top of that Imu (with unknown power) might even intervene if they are up against 2 Yonkos. I just don't see a scenario where even with two yonkos, they are going beat garp/sengoku/3 admirals/mihawk.

To be fair Sengoku and Garp both aren't in their prime anymore. They are at best average admiral level post prime. In my opinion you need at least 2 admirals to fight off an average yonkou. Kaido is the strongest current yonkou which would take 3 admirals to defeat him.
So all 3 admirals would be busy to only kaido. Then we have commanders from each crew. 2 commanders are enough to fight an admiral. Marco alone was able to fight Kizaru. Queen is YC1 level and King arguably YC1+ low admiral level just like marco. But we still have YC2 and YC3 level characters in each crew. With WB having the quantity of it. Then we have the tobi roppo who could face the vice admirals and win. Mihawk could be the key factor for a victory or a defeat. It depends if he chooses to fight against Kaido or not.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

A realistic representation of what wouldn't happen you mean, in reality Papakuzi one-shot

 

[uyuu]

How do you foresee it to play out?
Because WG still has sengoku, kizaru, garp, mihawk that haven't done much at MF, on top of that Imu (with unknown power) might even intervene if they are up against 2 Yonkos. I just don't see a scenario where even with two yonkos, they are going beat garp/sengoku/3 admirals/mihawk.

I think Imu and WG werent involved in MF war? I think the thread its strictly about Kaidou pirates vs The Marines and Shichi.

...but oh yeah the Shichi also can't be taken lightly at all. Its even more in the favor of Marines and Shichi.

 

[Black]

A realistic representation of what wouldn't happen you mean, in reality Papakuzi one-shot

Papazuki was already at half health or less. A full powered blow from kaido would be enough to K.O him in my opinion.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Papazuki was already at half health or less. A full powered blow from kaido would be enough to K.O him in my opinion.

Meh
Papakuzi won't lose to some fish

 

[Black]

Meh
Papakuzi won't lose to some fish

Understandable, have a nice day!

 

[Human D Luffy]

To be fair Sengoku and Garp both aren't in their prime anymore. They are at best average admiral level post prime. In my opinion you need at least 2 admirals to fight off an average yonkou. Kaido is the strongest current yonkou which would take 3 admirals to defeat him.
So all 3 admirals would be busy to only kaido. Then we have commanders from each crew. 2 commanders are enough to fight an admiral. Marco alone was able to fight Kizaru. Queen is YC1 level and King arguably YC1+ low admiral level just like marco. But we still have YC2 and YC3 level characters in each crew. With WB having the quantity of it. Then we have the tobi roppo who could face the vice admirals and win. Mihawk could be the key factor for a victory or a defeat. It depends if he chooses to fight against Kaido or not.

Match-up wise here is my analysis:

1) Akainu can defeat old WB. Some people think that old WB defeated Akainu, but that dude clearly came back with 100% health and half of WB's face is melted. So it is pretty obvious who is stronger imo.

2) Sengoku + Garp can defeat Kaido, but definitely not kill him

3) Kizaru stalemates with Marco + King imo.

4) Aokiji > Jozu + Queen.

5) Mihawk will destroy anyone else that is left.

6) Kuma will fight but Hancock will switch side and help Luffy, and I have them both at around YC 1 so they cancel out.

7) Imu is too OP so i would assume he is not showing up, but Kong might given that the marine is vs. 2 yonkos not 1. Even then, I don't think he is needed.