Questions & Mysteries What if...O_o (Law and Kaido interaction)

[ConquistadoR]

An it’s till laughable. Since obviously snow not inside the dome. That would’ve been a good amp for DR Law. Current Law doesn’t need shit to shambles with. That’s canon

Yet he needed rocks to shamble the Scabbards to Onigashima. And nope lol he didnt shamble onto Meme, he leaped onto her as shown clearly.

At this rate, Law's wank is reaching borderline "Zboi" levels like you term it, but Ill allow it since y'all deserve it this week 😂

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Yet he needed rocks to shamble the Scabbards to Onigashima.

]And nope lol he didnt shamble onto Meme, he leaped onto her as shown clearly.

Instead of wasting my time explaining why ur wrong yet again... Here another example to debunk ur nonsense.

http://imgur.com/a/lEdzfI4

Now since ur claiming I’m fanboying. I’ll walk u through the image this time instead lol.

As u can quite clearly see. Law uses shambles to teleport Zeus within Kids Box. Zero Object depicted being swapped in the image.... Immediately confirming my claim. It’s a critical moment in the Rooftop battle/an arc overall. There’s Zero reason to think Oda just forgot.

Now moving on to ur weird argument about Zeus, being swapped out with snow smh... Now pay attention, Kids cage is Close before Law uses Shambles. Immediately debunking the weird Notion he’s using snow, which obviously not inside a close box!!! U could argue Law used scrape, but well that’s never shown... Now should I slap you around with a few more panels?? Or do u submit
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At this rate, Law's wank is reaching borderline "Zboi" levels like you term it, but Ill allow it since y'all deserve it this week 😂

Trying to invalidated individuals point. Based off if he like a character or not low tier debating.

Ive been collecting feats Since the Raid start boi. The fact u thought u stood a chance In a Law debate Funny.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Instead of wasting my time explaining why ur wrong yet again... Here another example to debunk ur nonsense.

http://imgur.com/a/lEdzfI4

Now since ur claiming I’m fanboying. I’ll walk u through the image this time instead lol.

As u can quite clearly see. Law uses shambles to teleport Zeus within Kids Box. Zero Object depicted being swapped in the image.... Immediately confirming my claim. It’s a critical moment in the Rooftop battle/an arc overall. There’s Zero reason to think Oda just forgot.

Now moving on to ur weird argument about Zeus, being swapped out with snow smh... Now pay attention, Kids cage is Close before Law uses Shambles. Immediately debunking the weird Notion he’s using snow, which obviously not inside a close box!!! U could argue Law used scrape, but well that’s never shown... Now should I slap you around with a few more panels?? Or do u submit
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Trying to invalidated individuals point. Based off if he like a character or not low tier debating.

Ive been collecting feats Since the Raid start boi. The fact u thought u stood a chance In a Law debate Funny.

Exhibit 1: Chapter 984, Law uses Shambles and switches the Scabbards with few rocks. Wouldn't need to do that if he can do it without objects.

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Exhibit 2: Chapter 1000, another important moment where Law sends Kinemon down.
We see small pieces being used to Shamble Kinemon out. Once again, contradicts your logic.

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Exhibit 3: Chapter 1010
Law switches Zoro from Kaidou's swing. We see little particles again.

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Exhibit 4: Chapter 1012: The Homerun
Law canonically states that he switched with something that's flying in the air to send himself and Zoro down. Once again, disproves your logic beyond recovery.

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Your arguments,

Instance 1: Zeus being Shambled into Kid's box - could very well be using a piece of Junk like you suggested. Could very well be Oda not caring enough to draw small particles everytime.

Instance 2: The KROOM Anesthesia instance shows us Law leaping off the edge. Further more the SFX used is for "Hop" as in Leaping instead of "Pop!" like every other instance that both you used and I used in this argument has.

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Secondly, is Law a dumbass for leaping and then shambling himself?

Trying to invalidated individuals point. Based off if he like a character or not low tier debating

I was joking lol, don't take that too seriously breh lmao.

The fact u thought u stood a chance In a Law debate Funny.

:saden:

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Instance 1: Zeus being Shambled into Kid's box - could very well be using a piece of Junk like you suggested. Could very well be Oda not caring enough to draw small particles everytime.

I could help u actually understand the shit u just posted. An continue for a third time. But what’s the point.... U clearly ain’t gonna listen.

U created a fake narrative(snow) I debunk it. U protest on here, with text spam no effort to explain the panels

The fact u suggest it could be anything else then what’s shown. Despite me literally providing the imagine to u. enough to move on. I can’t waste my time on everybody​

 

[ConquistadoR]

I could help u actually understand the shit u just posted. An continue for a third time. But what’s the point.... U clearly ain’t gonna listen. U created a fake narrative(snow) I debunk it. U protest on here, with text spam no effort to explain the panels

The fact u suggest it could be anything else then what’s shown. Despite me literally providing the imagine to u. enough to move on

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I said that his ability to TP is overpowered during Rains and Snow when he has more particles to TP around. I said that for the Hiryu Kaen TP. Never did I say that it was the case during this particular instance that you talked about.

Not sure whether you are following the anime or how much credibility you give it; but the Wano anime has been giving far more details (they showed that the hidden shadow in ch. 979 was Yamato instead of some random person; stuff that we haven't even gotten revealed in the manga and they said they are working closely with Oda). Not a big fan of using anime material in manga debates but this was said regarding Law's ability in rains.

It isn't just a "random or fake" narrative, it has some credence to it - both logically and in the anime.

 

[ZenZu]

I could help u actually understand the shit u just posted. An continue for a third time. But what’s the point.... U clearly ain’t gonna listen.

U created a fake narrative(snow) I debunk it. U protest on here, with text spam no effort to explain the panels

The fact u suggest it could be anything else then what’s shown. Despite me literally providing the imagine to u. enough to move on. I can’t waste my time on everybody

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Drop a few more examples if you can. I'm not sold by one outlier.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Drop a few more examples if you can. I'm not sold by one outlier.

With the headcanon “snow” out of the way the most obvious here. I’m on mobile, U a law fan so I Gotcha.

http://imgur.com/a/kQ64cSa

 

[ConquistadoR]

Drop a few more examples if you can. I'm not sold by one outlier.

I think you have three instances - the Hiryu Kaen one, the one where he traps Zeus and then the TP which got Kidd and Law outside of Punk Crash's range once the attack was initiated. Not sure though.

 

[ZenZu]

With the headcanon “snow” out of the way the most obvious here

http://imgur.com/a/kQ64cSa

Now I wanna ask you why Oda bothered to draw objects being replaced in all of the panels Conquistador posted above?

 

[Fisher Tiger]

Oda is just inconsistent lol. Law needs something to swap with

 

[Loki D. Terror]

What is the current discussion going on?

Law needs to swap with objects ofcourse

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Now I wanna ask you why Oda bothered to draw objects being replaced in all of the panels Conquistador posted above?

well the Zoro panels obvious. The Objective to get Zoro away from Kaido. Simply going there Himself isn’t enough to guarantee his safety.

The other panels, just look closely at. You’ll notice all have the same theme. There “groups” of people. The other 2 instances are single individuals (Zeus/Zoro). That Leave u with no explanation on what’s actually happening. What exactly Zoro Shambling with 100s of feet in the air??

But the Zeus example, If an error extremely bad. Considering it’s the reason the Meme/Kaido are separate. An actual a critical moment. This entire arc would be functioning on a gaint plot hole.

 

[Ven437]

Kidd didn't do anything to kaido , where BM wanted to dodge kidd's bull attack which is plain metal

Oda already told us that Kidd knows how tough Kaido skin is and still implied he can get crushed to death. Queen backed it up with his snake form.

This isn’t hard to comprehend. Kidd wouldn’t be challenging Yonko or planning to take them down without a way to damage them for real. And please don’t use pointless “useless midd” insults or “metal is weak” headcanons, I’m legit being serious here.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

I said that his ability to TP is overpowered during Rains and Snow when he has more particles to TP around. I said that for the Hiryu Kaen TP. Never did I say that it was the case during this particular instance that you talked about.

Not sure whether you are following the anime or how much credibility you give it; but the Wano anime has been giving far more details (they showed that the hidden shadow in ch. 979 was Yamato instead of some random person; stuff that we haven't even gotten revealed in the manga and they said they are working closely with Oda). Not a big fan of using anime material in manga debates but this was said regarding Law's ability in rains.

It isn't just a "random or fake" narrative, it has some credence to it - both logically and in the anime.

Damn never saw this before. I pictured this a lot different when u said it.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Found two more. These were Law alone TP-ing as well, with pieces of stones.

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@Trafalgar_D_Law bruh I almost ended up re-reading entire Onigashima, atleast the Law chapters, to find these panels lmao

 

[BleakAsh]

Damn, lately there have been a lot of law wank, zoro fans now know how it feels

but this is a thread discussing a hypothetical instance

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Kaido took a gamma knife to his heart and it did nothing ( in his weakest form (Dragon))

gamma knife isn't an awakened Kroom how is it.

if you wanna argue portrayal yes the awakening is the strongest move set he has shown.. i can't get around why folks are using gamma knife as a relevant gage to determine the out come of an awakened move which broke BM's ribs

 

[Finalbeta]

Only punture wille, Shock Wille would also still do more than Gamma Knife did imo

It definitely looks more powerful and it also bypasses the problem related to the haki difference Law and a character with a too strong haki might have 🤔

 

[Abysmal]

but this is a thread discussing a hypothetical instance

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gamma knife isn't an awakened Kroom how is it.

if you wanna argue portrayal yes the awakening is the strongest move set he has shown.. i can't get around why folks are using gamma knife as a relevant gage to determine the out come of an awakened move which broke BM's ribs

All of them are internal damage attacks, I dont understand why do people compare BM and Kaido, Kaido been eating internal attacks since rooftop started, he has Zoan durability on top of his natural one + he constantly coats his body with ACoC, on top of all that he is male ( biologically stronger than female (BM)), Kroom or whatever hell Law uses will have minimal effects on someone like Kaido + I dont think he can use shambles while awakened.

 

[BleakAsh]

All of them are internal damage attacks, I dont understand why do people compare BM and Kaido, Kaido been eating internal attacks since rooftop started, he has Zoan durability on top of his natural one + he constantly coats his body with ACoC, on top of all that he is male ( biologically stronger than female (BM)), Kroom or whatever hell Law uses will have minimal effects on someone like Kaido + I dont think he can use shambles while awakened.

that'd not how it works... but i agree he is built different and doesn't have a barrier defence like BM..and not to sound like a misogynist but yes that wamen part too

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Oda already told us that Kidd knows how tough Kaido skin is and still implied he can get crushed to death. Queen backed it up with his snake form.

This isn’t hard to comprehend. Kidd wouldn’t be challenging Yonko or planning to take them down without a way to damage them for real. And please don’t use pointless “useless midd” insults or “metal is weak” headcanons, I’m legit being serious here.

What midd thinks is irrelevant , we see him doing jack shit

BM can easily tank huge missiles bomb but is afraid of midd's plain bull attack? Lmfao

And you are dirty saying BM's dura is higher than kaido's ; I hype BM and agree she has higher potential than kaido and better DF but saying she has higher dura is stupid , nonsensical and coping