Questions & Mysteries What is harder to achieve Black Blade or Pirate King Title?

Which is harder to achieve?


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#21
And Chinjao told us that to be Pirate King you have to stand atop all other conquerors, I'd trust a conqueror himself who battled Roger over a literal clown who gets by through deceit.
Donchinjao is canonically a loser from the old era, his words are far from being the law, Luffy himself said he don't want to conquer people, but he would rather befriend them:gonope:
 
#22
Donchinjao is canonically a loser from the old era, his words are far from being the law, Luffy himself said he don't want to conquer people, but he would rather befriend them:gonope:
So in the end it comes down to who you want to believe, Buggy or Chinjao, you choose Buggy and I choose Chinjao, nothing more to discuss.
 
#23
And Chinjao told us that to be Pirate King you have to stand atop all other conquerors, I'd trust a conqueror himself who battled Roger over a literal clown who gets by through deceit.

Black blades require something other than haki, and combined with the fact that swordsmen stronger than Mihawk never made one, that's all I need to know to say it's not a power feat.
This is proof you don't know what you're talking about.

Buggy was part of Rogers crew. He explained to us what's required to be pirate king. You can beat everybody in the world and you still won't be PK because being PK is not about being the strongest. Roger didn't become PK by beating everybody in a final battle royale.

If Roger didn't beg WB to lend him Oden he wouldn't have made it to the final island and became PK.

Mihawk is the WSS. The data book stated he stands he's the strongest in name and reality. Not just the strongest among swordsman. During Marineford his strength was hyped up to be stronger than a combine power of 3 admirals. That was way before Oda expanded on haki.

The main purpose to creating a black blade is have a sword that can channel unlimited amount of power through it. It.is a power feat. Only then well the user reach the pinnacle of swordsmanship. The ability to truly cut anything.
 
#25
This is proof you don't know what you're talking about.

Buggy was part of Rogers crew. He explained to us what's required to be pirate king. You can beat everybody in the world and you still won't be PK because being PK is not about being the strongest. Roger didn't become PK by beating everybody in a final battle royale.

Mihawk is the WSS. The data book stated he stands he's the strongest in name and reality. Not just the strongest among swordsman. During Marineford his strength was hyped up to be stronger than a combine power of 3 admirals. That was way before Oda expanded on haki.

The main purpose to creating a black blade is have a sword that can channel unlimited amount of power through it. It.is a power feat. Only then well the user reach the pinnacle of swordsmanship. The ability to truly cut anything.
Buggy being part of Roger's crew literally means nothing. Buggy is a fraud who specifically gets by without being powerful, that's his whole gag, he's a weak clown who magically ends up winning in the most ridiculous circumstances, just because that's how Buggy thinks he'll become PK doesn't mean that's how 99% of people will do it. You need to collect the Poneglyths which are held by extremely strong characters and you need to fight others who are also seeking to become Pirate King, that's why Chinjao said you have to stand at the top, only the strongest of those vying for it can pull it off.

Not the strongest swordsman in history, Roger is stronger and didn't have a black blade, and the databook also hints at something other than haki being required, again, reason enough to conclude that it's not this huge power feat.
 
#26
Mihawk said that becoming the PK is harder than surpassing him. Which means: Being pirate king > surpassing Mihawk > being Mihawk. To be the PK, you need a multitude of things after all. You need to be incredibly powerful on your own and have the ability to make powerful people into your trusted allies. Roger was not only overpowered, he had a top tier right hand man and a strong crew. The Yonko all have/had a powerful crew, allies and large territories, with the PK being the one atop of the bunch.

As an individual with a black blade, you still cannot conquer the world.
 
#27
Buggy being part of Roger's crew literally means nothing. Buggy is a fraud who specifically gets by without being powerful, that's his whole gag, he's a weak clown who magically ends up winning in the most ridiculous circumstances, just because that's how Buggy thinks he'll become PK doesn't mean that's how 99% of people will do it. You need to collect the Poneglyths which are held by extremely strong characters and you need to fight others who are also seeking to become Pirate King, that's why Chinjao said you have to stand at the top, only the strongest of those vying for it can pull it off.

Not the strongest swordsman in history, Roger is stronger and didn't have a black blade, and the databook also hints at something other than haki being required, again, reason enough to conclude that it's not this huge power feat.
You're reading comprehensive skills suck.

Buggy was explaining to Mihawk and Crocodile how to become Pirate King. He told them they don't have to worry about building up their wealth and power first. By him becoming PK will automatically gain wealth, fame, and power.

You choosing to ignore manga a facts doesn't make you right.

The whole point to Buggy character is to show us it's sure you don't have to be the strongest to become PK. Nor does becoming the strongest make you PK.

Roger didn't become Pirate King by beating everybody else. He begged WB for Oden. Without him owning he wouldn't ever became PK.

You don't have to collect the poneglyths to become PK, you just need to read them. Guess what, just because you're strong doesn't mean you can read them.

Mihawk has a world's strongest title. Roger doesn't. It is never been hinted or applied he was stronger than Mihawk. The only reason people put them up there is because he's PK that is not a strength-based title.
 
#28
Mihawk had a black blade and still ended up bowing to the WG because it was easier. Roger on the other hand, did whatever he liked whenever he liked.

Not to mention that there are multiple black blades but only one Pirate King.

Also the direct statement by Mihawk that Pirate King is harder than Strongest Swordsman.
 
#29
Mihawk had a black blade and still ended up bowing to the WG because it was easier. Roger on the other hand, did whatever he liked whenever he liked.

Not to mention that there are multiple black blades but only one Pirate King.

Also the direct statement by Mihawk that Pirate King is harder than Strongest Swordsman.
Yeah that is bs Mihawk has never once bowed to anyone he does what he wants and Loda went out of his way very early on in the series to hammer in that fact
 
#30
Mihawk had a black blade and still ended up bowing to the WG because it was easier. Roger on the other hand, did whatever he liked whenever he liked.

Not to mention that there are multiple black blades but only one Pirate King.

Also the direct statement by Mihawk that Pirate King is harder than Strongest Swordsman.
Mihawk used the WG to his benefit and does whatever he wants.

Roger had a powerful crew and still needed to ask WB to lend him Oden to become PK.

There have only been 2 black blade in history. One was created over 800 years ago. The PK title is a new title that was created about 20 years ago. Big difference between the two.

Mihawk made that statement because he understands you can't become PK alone. You need other people other. It's harder to get others to help you than it is to help yourself.
 
#31
Mihawk used the WG to his benefit and does whatever he wants.

Roger had a powerful crew and still needed to ask WB to lend him Oden to become PK.

There have only been 2 black blade in history. One was created over 800 years ago. The PK title is a new title that was created about 20 years ago. Big difference between the two.

Mihawk made that statement because he understands you can't become PK alone. You need other people other. It's harder to get others to help you than it is to help yourself.
So, like. Its harder to become Pirate King because its a much more complicated and dangerous endeavor than just getting really good with a sword?
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Yeah that is bs Mihawk has never once bowed to anyone he does what he wants and Loda went out of his way very early on in the series to hammer in that fact
not what it seemed like to me when he pulled up to Marineford and then ran away to Crossguild when the WG turned on him.
 
#32
So, like. Its harder to become Pirate King because its a much more complicated and dangerous endeavor than just getting really good with a sword?
It's it's a different achievement than creating a black blade. You can't become PK by just being strong. As I said, it's like comparing apples to oranges.

You can beat everybody in the world, be the undisputed champion, and be the strongest who ever lived, but that doesn't mean you would become pirate king.
 
#33
PK title was given by WG/General Public (idk which) to Roger because he reached Laugh Tale right? Reaching one requires a certain level of strength and other factors while reaching the others requires only strength. However, the strength required to reach Black Blade has been achieved only twice in the story while the strength required to be PK has been achieved by many, the people unable to achieve the status is due to other reason besides strength.
 
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