Break Week What was the lowest moment in One Piece for you?
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I'm torn. It's understandable because that stuff can't be played another way... we all knew Luffy was Joyboy as soon as the concept came up in FI, for example.
But what ended up happening is Oda waited 100 volumes to surprise us with the revelation that Luffy is just another shonen cliche. Okay he spent years learning to use a weak power and made it look strong... but then he was suddenly escorted to first class and can use his Zoan better than the master Zoan without even knowing it.
And the King of Zoans actually can't even awaken, because then the story would require more intricate writing.
But what ended up happening is Oda waited 100 volumes to surprise us with the revelation that Luffy is just another shonen cliche. Okay he spent years learning to use a weak power and made it look strong... but then he was suddenly escorted to first class and can use his Zoan better than the master Zoan without even knowing it.
And the King of Zoans actually can't even awaken, because then the story would require more intricate writing.
Sanji's nosebleed in FMI turning into a plot device to showcase the treatment between races (Fishmen and humans)
That was completely unexpected, unnecessary and over the top. Oda had never done something likely in the whole series (and never repeated it, thankfully), so i really don't know what he was thinking at that time.
Knowing how Oda is, im sure he thought it was super fun and an excellent idea
But going back and rereading it made me realize it isn't bad how i used to think, it lasts just a very few chapters (panels, to be exact), you just need to see it as the gag that it is, despite being completely different from most gags Oda usually brings up.
The Punk Hazard arc is also weird, there are a lot of pointless stuff there that get dragged out too much, its kinda garbage.
That was completely unexpected, unnecessary and over the top. Oda had never done something likely in the whole series (and never repeated it, thankfully), so i really don't know what he was thinking at that time.
Knowing how Oda is, im sure he thought it was super fun and an excellent idea
But going back and rereading it made me realize it isn't bad how i used to think, it lasts just a very few chapters (panels, to be exact), you just need to see it as the gag that it is, despite being completely different from most gags Oda usually brings up.
The Punk Hazard arc is also weird, there are a lot of pointless stuff there that get dragged out too much, its kinda garbage.
Punk Hazard and Foxy tied the vote for me.
Reason:
1. Punk Hazard arc is so bad, I have almost no recollection of the storyline. I only remembered that Kinemon and Momo were introduced during that arc.
2. Foxy arc is so stupid because it's directly after an epic arc of Skypiea and Oda decided to add a filler level storyline as a canon arc. It doesn't even serve as an important plot point to the series.
Reason:
1. Punk Hazard arc is so bad, I have almost no recollection of the storyline. I only remembered that Kinemon and Momo were introduced during that arc.
2. Foxy arc is so stupid because it's directly after an epic arc of Skypiea and Oda decided to add a filler level storyline as a canon arc. It doesn't even serve as an important plot point to the series.
1. No reason for Zoro, Franky, Usopp and Robin not going to WCI just to do nothing in Wano.
2. No resolution to Nidai Kitetsu plot
3. No reason for Grim Reaper appearance before Zoro
4. No reason not to give haki to SH crew
5. Kaido backstory heavily teased but delivered nothing.
6. Kiku in Girls bath not even showing any reaction to his brother Izo's death
2. No resolution to Nidai Kitetsu plot
3. No reason for Grim Reaper appearance before Zoro
4. No reason not to give haki to SH crew
5. Kaido backstory heavily teased but delivered nothing.
6. Kiku in Girls bath not even showing any reaction to his brother Izo's death
Thriller bark bath scene with nami...was way to creepy(+ most of sanji's scenes)
Oda used cake plot with sanji which still had issues with execution...but Wano where food was a crisis and was established as one a major issue...just a vanished without any involvement with Sanji at all(it was not even solved..it just vanished).
Forget it man...oda was dumb and so made Sanji dumber.
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Oda used cake plot with sanji which still had issues with execution...but Wano where food was a crisis and was established as one a major issue...just a vanished without any involvement with Sanji at all(it was not even solved..it just vanished).
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Forget it man...oda was dumb and so made Sanji dumber.
Right now Usopp saying it was ok to lie to Ulti about Luffy being the pirate king. This far in to the story that shouldn't have happened. I'd rather him knocked out than speaking at all.
Potential moments that could outrank that depending on how the series progresses- If Kaidou or Big Mom are dead they should be referred to as such. Not defeated, vanquished, etc. Not only are they near Pluton but also the volcano that erupted increasing ambiguity. Shanks losing his arm is another. Originally I thought he sacrificed it to save Luffy, but he most likely decided not to use haki for whatever reason.
Potential moments that could outrank that depending on how the series progresses- If Kaidou or Big Mom are dead they should be referred to as such. Not defeated, vanquished, etc. Not only are they near Pluton but also the volcano that erupted increasing ambiguity. Shanks losing his arm is another. Originally I thought he sacrificed it to save Luffy, but he most likely decided not to use haki for whatever reason.
Luffy and Nika would be the culmination. But if I were to trace a line, the introduction of Joyboy in FI.
Retarded name, brought prophecies into the midst, forcefully connected the One Piece to Robin and WG, meaning, the Pirate King isn’t the freest man in the world, since whoever finds the OP has a duty to fight the WG, for whatever evil thing the 20 kings did in the past. destroyed the sense of adventure pre-ts had, even on a meta level, as the talks of prophecies and JB spurred the communities to focus more on theories of what would happen in the future, rather than focus on the slogfest that was the present. Fuck Fishman Island, it deserves the hate it gets, especially now, that paced the way for the nika fruit retcon.
Retarded name, brought prophecies into the midst, forcefully connected the One Piece to Robin and WG, meaning, the Pirate King isn’t the freest man in the world, since whoever finds the OP has a duty to fight the WG, for whatever evil thing the 20 kings did in the past. destroyed the sense of adventure pre-ts had, even on a meta level, as the talks of prophecies and JB spurred the communities to focus more on theories of what would happen in the future, rather than focus on the slogfest that was the present. Fuck Fishman Island, it deserves the hate it gets, especially now, that paced the way for the nika fruit retcon.
