General & Others What would happen without Jinbe?

[Brush D. Teeth]

Lucci may or may not keep fighting (depends on if he can move).

 

[grey matter]

In a weird way
Sanji’s insult was basically Kiku’s arm 2.0

Both instances where zoro was on a time crunch and insensitivised to end it as quick as possible
Both instances he was trying knowing the crew was in danger the longer he took
Both times he “powered up” using hardening against apoo and green smoke against Lucci
Both times he needed something to fully push him to go all in. Kiku’s arm and sanji’s insult

Or.........
It is just Oda stalling for the plot to progress as he wants?

Did Kiku's arm or Sanji's insult made Zoro stronger?
No. Just made him more take things more seriously.

Zoro just did stuff he is always capable of, and held back earlier for the sake of plot.

Anyway, tell me this.
What diff was this fight overall?

 

[JoNdule]

Or.........
It is just Oda stalling for the plot to progress as he wants?

Did Kiku's arm or Sanji's insult made Zoro stronger?
No. Just made him more take things more seriously.

Zoro just did stuff he is always capable of, and held back earlier for the sake of plot.

Anyway, tell me this.
What diff was this fight overall?

Inconclusive

Nobody won, nobody lost
There's no diff anymore

 

[Albino 👑]

Or.........
It is just Oda stalling for the plot to progress as he wants?

Did Kiku's arm or Sanji's insult made Zoro stronger?
No. Just made him more take things more seriously.

Zoro just did stuff he is always capable of, and held back earlier for the sake of plot.

Anyway, tell me this.
What diff was this fight overall?

Crying “plot” isn’t an actual excuse or reason
Bellamy stalled luffy and Black Maria sanji saying it doesn’t count or mean anything because “plot” is dumb because there’s actual in story and character reasons regardless.

Kiku’s arm and sanji’s insult is what pushed zoro to pushed zoro to fully lock in and where necessary in both scenarios. So I’m a way yes they did push zoro to be stronger than he previously was

Even before the fight started it should’ve been obvious zoro was stronger. Hell I don’t put Lucci over king even let alone zoro

At the same time Lucci did extremely well against zoro and denying that is just cap

1. Zoro from the jump was trying to put Lucci down as soon as possible. Lucci didn’t let him exhausting both of them. Not to mention everyone calling out zoro
2. Zoro used koh/green flames whatever you want to call it to power up. Lucci still stood strong with Zoro not landing anything and deciding there’s no point using it
3. Zoro finally landed an attack with it arguably being conquerors infused after hearing Sanji call him a liability. Lucci didn’t even fall all tho obviously hurt. Jinbe followed it up with another attack and he’s still conscious

Again yes zoro was stronger from the jump but Lucci put up hell of a fight. All this he got low or neg diffed shit is cap

 

[L57]

Lucci gets killed

 

[HellBlazer04]

Zoro was literally out for blood, he was willing to actually kill Lucci if jinbei wasn't there.

 

[Punishhh]

Zoro would have been killed by Mars.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Zoro would have been killed by Mars.

King of Hell would have sent Mars to his domain I'm afraid

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

King of Hell would have sent Mars to his domain I'm afraid

He'd have regenerated.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

He'd have regenerated.

One way trip I'm afraid

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

One way trip I'm afraid

What makes you think that he can't regen from Zoro's attack when we've seen them do it in every instance so far and we had multiple characters spell it out for us?

 

[Jailer]

Would still be fighting Lucci, from there either be defeated by Mars where he arrived in front of Lucci or have Sanji go and drag his ass.

 

[zenox]

zoro would have went for another attack and killed lucci
then he would have fought mars

 

[Buggy D Clown]

What makes you think that he can't regen from Zoro's attack when we've seen them do it in every instance so far and we had multiple characters spell it out for us?

Same thing that made the guy I was originally replying to think that Mars would have killed Zoro

 

[Borasey79]

Without Jinbe, Albino would have to make up something else to bitch about.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

So I’m a way yes they did push zoro to be stronger than he previously was

So Zoro gets power ups from casual conversations and simply deciding to get serious

Every other character requires training and willpower to get power ups but Zoro gets them by DECIDING TO BE STRONGER any time he wishes to be?

 

[Buggy D Clown]

So Zoro gets power ups from casual conversations and simply deciding to get serious

Every other character requires training and willpower to get power ups but Zoro gets them by DECIDING TO BE STRONGER any time he wishes to be?

Albino straight up claiming Zoro is the strongest character in the verse

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Lucci actually dies without jinbei here lol

So jinbei saved Lucci

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Same thing that made the guy I was originally replying to think that Mars would have killed Zoro

Oh I see so you're giving random replies. That's how much thought Zoro fans put behind their posts.

 

[Jailer]

three sword ko CoC no Asura Zoro