General & Others When does a weapon become a sword and a man a swordsman?

[ImmaIvanoM]

Yeah i did '' Kitetsu's personality is Ashura, that's when Oni Piercer activates ''..

Vivre Cards aren't Canon.. Not Zoro's lightning, Enma needs base CoC for KoH CoA(Black Green Lightning) mode..

So to defend a Made up statement you made up another made up statement

okay, why did Oden scar Kaido then, he doesn’t have Kitetsu?

Are SBS’ canon? Two times in SBS, Oda has directly said Vivre cards are canon. So should I believe you or should I believe Oda

 

[Rootbeer]

So to defend a Made up statement you made up another made up statement

okay, why did Oden scar Kaido then, he doesn’t have Kitetsu?

Are SBS’ canon? Two times in SBS, Oda has directly said Vivre cards are canon. So should I believe you or should I believe Oda

Everything is speculation..

KoH can scar Kaido, i don't know what to tell you..

There were many mistakes in the vivre cards, they mostly try to be accurate.. Not Canon though..
I still can refute your SbS example of KoH, Base CoC to active KoH and Black Green Lightning CoA..

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Everything is speculation..

KoH can scar Kaido, i don't know what to tell you..

There were many mistakes in the vivre cards, they mostly try to be accurate.. Not Canon though..
I still can refute your SbS example of KoH, Base CoC to active KoH and Black Green Lightning CoA..

There are also many mistakes in the one piece manga. Is the one piece manga not canon because Oda makes mistakes in it too?

you said it’s Kitetsu that lets Zoro scar Kaido… I’m asking what let’s Oden scar Kaido.

 

[Rootbeer]

There are also many mistakes in the one piece manga. Is the one piece manga not canon because Oda makes mistakes in it too?

you said it’s Kitetsu that lets Zoro scar Kaido… I’m asking what let’s Oden scar Kaido.

We moving the goalpost cause you're deflecting..

Why can't KoH be Base CoC fed to Enma, it activate KoH which is Weaponizing CoA Black Green Lightning?..

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

We moving the goalpost cause you're deflecting..

Why can't KoH be Base CoC fed to Enma, it activate KoH which is Weaponizing CoA Black Green Lightning?..

Why isn’t a thing you made up the way the manga works?

is this what you’re asking me?

you want me to argue against a thing that comes entirely from your mind… I refuse

 

[Rootbeer]

Why isn’t a thing you made up the way the manga works?

is this what you’re asking me?

you want me to argue against a thing that comes entirely from your mind… I refuse

No, because if there's another reasonable counter for what KoH can be.. Then it's simply not a Fact that Zoro has AdCoC and purely speculation..

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

No, because if there's another reasonable counter for what KoH can be.. Then it's simply not a Fact that Zoro has AdCoC and purely speculation..

No, only what Oda says is canon. You know how your nonsense about Kitetsu is not said anywhere in the manga, that’s how you know it’s not canon. And you know how Kaido says he was scarred by Zoro using CoC on him, That’s how you know that’s canon

And no, you will not be able to make me get into arguments about things that aren’t canon

 

[Rootbeer]

No, only what Oda says is canon. You know how your nonsense about Kitetsu is not said anywhere in the manga, that’s how you know it’s not canon. And you know how Kaido says he was scarred by Zoro using CoC on him, That’s how you know that’s canon

And no, you will not be able to make me get into arguments about things that aren’t canon

Deflecting..

Tell me why '' Why can't KoH be Base CoC fed to Enma, it activate KoH which is Weaponizing CoA Black Green Lightning? ''..

 

[Flash_Flash]

It’s exactly what you said, it’s “close enough”. For the reason you think “Sword attack” is close enough to “Swordsmanship” to not matter is the reason why Stephen isn’t fired. Because a casual reader who isn’t like us that discusses it would not be confused by Stephen changing these words. They are close enough

also Oda and the Jump editors don’t understand English so they can’t fact check anything

I can’t say that you and all the viz readers technically misunderstand the narrative flow and structure of the story in a general sense from reading Stephen, he’s not that bad.

But you’re definitely missing out on a the more minute details. We all are. All of us English readers are missing out on details. So that’s why it’s better to use multiple translations (including even Stephens) and consult independent translators like Sandman and Puck (who is on this forum) and more.

Just know, for the sake of internet discussions, just saying “Viz said this” isn’t good enough. It’s fine as one source but not the “Ultimate source that silences every other source”

I don't buy it tbf. How did they even hire Stephen Paul? He had to have a credibility first to be hired as a Japanese translator.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Deflecting..

Tell me why '' Why can't KoH be Base CoC fed to Enma, it activate KoH which is Weaponizing CoA Black Green Lightning? ''..

Because you made that up. A thing you made up can’t happen in the manga because you’re not the author and it’s entirely in your head

I don't buy it tbf. How did they even hire Stephen Paul? He had to have a credibility first to be hired as a Japanese translator.

the way he was hired is interesting.

Stephen was a fan translator on another forum called “Arlong park forums”

back then, the official translators WERE WAY WORSE. Yes those much worse translations are still the official ones sold by Viz to this day even thought Viz specifically replaced the original translator with Stephen because he was so bad.

Stephen started around Impel down. So he was one of these guys like TCB who was making fan translations because of how bad the officials were… And then he replaced the officials… and now the cycle has repeated and there are better translations than his too now

 

[Flash_Flash]

Because you made that up. A thing you made up can’t happen in the manga because you’re not the author and it’s entirely in your head



the way he was hired is interesting.

Stephen was a fan translator on another forum called “Arlong park forums”

back then, the official translators WERE WAY WORSE. Yes those much worse translations are still the official ones sold by Viz to this day even thought Viz specifically replaced the original translator with Stephen because he was so bad.

Stephen started around Impel down. So he was one of these guys like TCB who was making fan translations because of how bad the officials were… And then he replaced the officials… and now the cycle has repeated and there are better translations than his too now

If they knew which translation was worse and that led them to replace those translators with Stephen Paul, then they also should have known that Stephen Paul's translation was wrong. Why didn't they just replace Stephen Paul with more reliable translator?

 

[Rootbeer]

Because you made that up. A thing you made up can’t happen in the manga because you’re not the author and it’s entirely in your head

I will let you win when it comes to the last word, for now..