Bougya Which fanbase has the most fake fans?
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But like, why? What if instead of starting a war with Whitebeard over Roger's son, they sent a buster call on Roger's right hand man who could go back to laughtale any minute he wanted or expose the entire void century lol
And ofc, they didn't do anything during the timeskip or current story. They even had a vague idea of his location before the Luffy situation anyway
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And ofc, they didn't do anything during the timeskip or current story. They even had a vague idea of his location before the Luffy situation anyway
The right hand of the previous PK sees the same potential in Luffy. He’s the perfect possible mentor, and it’s a passing of the torch situation.
I don’t see a reason why the gorosei or yonkos would track him down lol. The gorosei don’t meddle with surface dwellers unless the balance that they created is threatened. The yonkos barely interact with each other themselves and they have no business with Rayleigh, I don’t see the point. It’s not like Rayleigh will join them or disclose the Laughtale info, the yonkos would just be starting a big fight against a legend for no reason.
I don’t see a reason why the gorosei or yonkos would track him down lol. The gorosei don’t meddle with surface dwellers unless the balance that they created is threatened. The yonkos barely interact with each other themselves and they have no business with Rayleigh, I don’t see the point. It’s not like Rayleigh will join them or disclose the Laughtale info, the yonkos would just be starting a big fight against a legend for no reason.
Agreed on the first part. But I think that's kind of the issue, Rayleigh kind of just sees Luffy as a new Roger... which is okay, but I feel like they don't have such a close emotional connection. I mean, if that's odas intention that's okay, but maybe it would be cool if Rayleigh told Luffy some stories from the old days of the Roger pirates. Not about the OP, but maybe after Ace died he could have told luffy about some L's the Roger pirates took back in the day or something. Also.. I feel like it's a bit unfair that Luffy is trained by him while his peers have to go to the new world by themselves, but whatever. My main issue is with the second part. By knowing about the void century and Laughtale, he could easily access the ancient weapons or tell someone about them, and even expose the entire government. Why wouldn't the government be more worried about this? They destroyed Ohara for not even knowing as much as Rayleigh. The Yonko should be trying to recruit him or at least ask for secrets. Though, the Yonko probably can't track him down as easy.
I mean, that's fine probably. He didn't seem to know beforehand, and getting involved in the war could have been a waste on his part.
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I mean, that's fine probably. He didn't seem to know beforehand, and getting involved in the war could have been a waste on his part.
Unless there's an Admiral in that buster call, they're just going to lose a ton of men for no reason.
Besides, Rayleigh does nothing but drink and fuck like a rabbit. He's not harming them at all. So why go after him?
There is always the possibility that he might try to expose the void century and what not, but it's highly unlikely, and he also doesn't have a way to broadcast it to the whole world like Vegapunk did.
Besides, Rayleigh does nothing but drink and fuck like a rabbit. He's not harming them at all. So why go after him?
There is always the possibility that he might try to expose the void century and what not, but it's highly unlikely, and he also doesn't have a way to broadcast it to the whole world like Vegapunk did.
Why not send 2 admirals? This is Roger's right hand man. He could destroy the world if he wanted too. And he recently intervened in a situation where he protected a major pirate after they attacked a celestial dragon(yes it's deserved but I'm saying from the Gorosei perspective). Kizaru said the navy would need to make preparations to capture Rayleigh. Idk what that means, if the implication is that he can't do it himself, why not bring Akainu and a couple Warships?
Welllll, a lot of the times the admirals are just hanging out in the hq. And they did have time to waste on a stupid war with Whitebeard(Wb was mostly just protecting islands and stuff towards the end of his life, maybe involved in crazy shit in the past but who knows) over Ace, who at the end of the day just beat up a warlord as his biggest achievement. They heard Roger and decided to show no mercy, I guess? Which just feels inconsistent. Also, I think the situation just gets objectively goofier when you consider the Holy Knighrs and Garling have been added, as well as Cp0 having strong mfs, and even the Gorosei being willing to fight. Like do we really think a surprise attack would be impossible here... but either way, it doesn't really matter much, but that's always bothered me a bit about Rayleigh, who I overall do like..
This is a very good point but to be fair he's got more of a cool factor to him than Koby does, if that makes sense
He's got a strong crew, is a Yonko, is a very strong and skilled swordsman, etc.
Plus he's likely a CD.
So he's definitely got an appeal to him.
On the other hand I still believe Koby (and characters like him) is a good character, he's not the most nuanced and he doesn't have a lot of the things that makes characters like Kaido, Sakazuki, Zoro etc. so beloved but I think that makes him even better. Makes him special in a way.
Marineford was necessary in their eyes because Ace had way too much potential. For example if they had simply captured Katakuri and Big Mom came for him, they'd have handed Katakuri over quickly. Ace HAD to die there because if he didn't he'd eventually become a god tier and probably find the One Piece (or be a key factor in Luffy finding it, if Ace himself ever failed to).
Rayleigh wasn't that important to them. He does know of the OP but even if he wanted to go back to Laugh Tale it's still a very very hard place to get to especially when he doesn't have the Oro Jackson anymore or a navigator.
And I could go on and on about this, truth be told, but I don't really want to, so I won't. At the end of the day though, I think that just never came to Oda's mind even once, or he just didn't care about what happens to Rayleigh that much.
He's got a strong crew, is a Yonko, is a very strong and skilled swordsman, etc.
Plus he's likely a CD.
So he's definitely got an appeal to him.
On the other hand I still believe Koby (and characters like him) is a good character, he's not the most nuanced and he doesn't have a lot of the things that makes characters like Kaido, Sakazuki, Zoro etc. so beloved but I think that makes him even better. Makes him special in a way.
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Marineford was necessary in their eyes because Ace had way too much potential. For example if they had simply captured Katakuri and Big Mom came for him, they'd have handed Katakuri over quickly. Ace HAD to die there because if he didn't he'd eventually become a god tier and probably find the One Piece (or be a key factor in Luffy finding it, if Ace himself ever failed to).
Rayleigh wasn't that important to them. He does know of the OP but even if he wanted to go back to Laugh Tale it's still a very very hard place to get to especially when he doesn't have the Oro Jackson anymore or a navigator.
And I could go on and on about this, truth be told, but I don't really want to, so I won't. At the end of the day though, I think that just never came to Oda's mind even once, or he just didn't care about what happens to Rayleigh that much.
Yeah.... fair enough. I respect your opinion, but like you said Oda probably didn't think too much about it. I would have less complaints if we had a quick scene where Gorosei discuss the pros and cons of going after Rayleigh and decide not too I think it would be better writing. (Also, I think it's possible the Gorosei don't know the Roger pirates know about the void century)
I don’t think he knew that Ace was Roger’s son, Roger only revealed it to Garp and Rayleigh never met Ace. And even if he knew, he probably thinks that WB could do it.
It’s probably too much work, and the marines did hunt for any traces of the Roger pirates for a few years after Roger’s death. It has been decades and the status quo and secrets of the WG hasn’t been revealed to the world yet so they put it behind them.
It’s probably too much work, and the marines did hunt for any traces of the Roger pirates for a few years after Roger’s death. It has been decades and the status quo and secrets of the WG hasn’t been revealed to the world yet so they put it behind them.