Controversial Which is has worst portrayal for this "tactical reason" Between Bb crew and Greenbull?

Which has worst portrayal?


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#22
Look at the mess Oda had to create to justify Greenbull retreating

- Bring up the Red Hair Pirates and sell film Red tickets

- Making Greenbull try to face the Wano Alliance by himself in order to capture Luffy and make Akainu happy

- Shanks admitting Greenbull wasn't fighting dirty at all (as some thought), showing he knew Aramaki would cause a mess there

- Getting straight up hit by a CoC coating user that "onLY tHE stROnGest caN uSe" and just saying "thats some tough haki"

- Yamato asking Momo to call "Luffy and the others" to deal with Aramaki, admitting they did absolutely nothing for Greenbull to leave because she felt someone elses haki.

- Yamato giving up at leaving Wano because of Aramaki's brief presence in the country, comparing him to Kaido arguing that "Kaido may've fallen, but it's guys LIKE HIM (Aramaki) who will be coming after Wano".

- Monster Trio + Jinbe ready to jump in if necessary. What kind of treat would currently force these 4 to team up?

- Now at Egghead, even more clues were given about why the Navy can't simply attack Emperors out of the blue.



Meanwhile with Blackbeard

- He was already ready to kill Boa, even if it meant that Vasco and Catarina would basically die, he said it himself.

- Still left Amazon Lily when Rayleigh showed up.

It was not even an all out CoC blast "boosted" by emotionally driven flashbacks like the one with Shanks

Even if Ray admitted that he would most likely lose to Blackbeard if they fought, there is still a huge gap between the situation Aramaki was in (a much much worse one) compared to Blackbeard's.
 
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#25
Greenbull was already making it's way to fight the guys that took down yonkos, him sensing that another Yonko was around due to the strong Haki wave knew that he had no chance and he was solo

Blackbeard post-Gura with his entire crew left before Akainu had made his way on the island.

It's worse for Blackbeard because he wasn't alone and the opposition was only Akainu

Greenbull was alone and had an entire force to deal with before the RHP appearances
 
#28
Gb pathethic expression when got coc'ed by shanks even tho shanks doesnt even apeear in front


Or bb coward move when he knew akainu is on the ship

Both is legitimate panels that say akainu>bb and shanks>gb imo but who do u think is worst?
There is big difference between shanks+ his entire crew who has good reputation while the other is akainu+ fodder marine


Maybe you should start reading manga because BB's crew was already telling him to leave for another island, before even they heard the deal is off.

They had no intention of fighting marines again when they already did it in Marineford and stopped.

Shanks could show up again to save Marines if they did it, what's the point, they would've done it in Marineford if they wanted.

While Greenbitch went to there to fight, he was planning to fight, he pussied out when he heard about Shanks.

BB didn't plan to fight Marines in there, and BB's crew told him to leave before, plus Sanjuan is a DF user and he needs to be saved he would be an open target on the sea when they had no ship, BB basically did it for the sake of his crew.

Ryokugyu needs Marine HQ to do something against an Emperor. He left because he wasn’t allowed to do anything.

Teach left to guarantee the life of his crew.

Both solid reasons that people blow wayyyyy out of proportion but Ryos is a he can’t do anything. Teach was a he preferred not to
BB wasn't planning to fight Marines again, Greenbitch was planning to fight Pirates, he pussied out that's the huge difference.

BB because that is not a one off instance, he fled after CP0 clash post DR, and he also got scared away by an almost dead legend.
He was already trying to get his stone men back but he wasn't trusting Boa Hancock, so he was going to kill her. Rayleigh guaranteed for the safety of his men, he agreed.

Not sure what you ZKKtards think of BB, but he cares about his powerful crew, he basically become Shichibukai only because for getting that crew, that's how important they are. If they killed Hancock and Rayleigh, half of his crew would be dead.

Also Hypocrite Mihawk wankers always ignores Mihawk runs from Marines or postpones his duels LMAO.



This is Mihawk being chased by random Marines without even an Admiral, yet they keep talking about BB when BB had no intention of fighting Marines and they literally send their strongest Admiral to attack him off-guard when he was Pre-Yonko.
 
#31
Greenbull:
what made retreat: 1 Yonko crew + Wano alliance that beat 2 yonko
what Greenbull lost: no "attaboy" from Akainu

Blackbeard:
what made him retreat: some old, retired bum
what Blackbeard lost: Boa's fruit for which he sailed all the way from New World to Paradise

Greenbull literally had nothing to lose by retreating from a force that is stronger than 4 yonko
 
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#33
Greenbull:
what made retreat: 1 Yonko crew + Wano alliance that beat 2 yonko
what Greenbull lost: no "attaboy" from Akainu

Blackbeard:
what made him retreat: some old, retired bum
what Blackbeard lost: Boa's fruit he sailed all the way from New World to Paradise
LMAO
Greenbitch didn't sail all the way from Marine HQ to Wano?

Greenbitch didn't even see Yonko Luffy, or even Yonko Shanks, Shanks send CoC Haki from miles away LOL.

what BB gained: knowledge about Seraphims, and captured Hero Koby, took his stone Yonko commanders back


2 Yonko commanders in exchange for Boa's fruit? Fair deal.

Same Rayleigh stopped Kizaru as well. If his Yonko commanders weren't there to save, BB would probably kill them anyways. Stone hostages forced BB make deal.

BB's commanders failed, not BB. BB had to make a bargain to save them.
 
#34
GB was way cooler. He was up against two Yonkou crews, no shame in retreating tbh. And I have no clue how this dehypes Admirals when he was perfectly willing to fight against a single Yonkou Crew.

Don't think you can even remotely compare this to BB running from Akainu or Rayleigh. The guy and his crew ran from just one person in both cases, completely shameful thing.
 
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#35
Aramaki's portrait is the worst portrait that a higher level can receive from another...

I've never seen such humiliation on the panel, even Big Mom who was ridiculed by people weaker than her due to the plot later managed to get rid of all the shit by drawing a showdown for 3 days against the strongest guy in the manga.
:luffylaugh::luffylaugh::luffylaugh::luffylaugh:
 
#36
GB was way cooler. He was up against two Yonkou crews, no shame in retreating tbh. And I have no clue how this dehypes Admirals when he was perfectly willing to fight against a single Yonkou Crew.
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He never even see any Yonko there, Shanks literally negged him from miles away. LOL.

Also, Shanks himself said GB knew Luffy and his crew were tired and wounded after the battle, which is why he told GB he is scared of the New Age because he attacks them when they were tired and wounded.


Don't think you can even remotely compare this to BB running from Akainu or Rayleigh. The guy and his crew ran from just one person in both cases, completely shameful thing.
Perhaps because his crew was the reason he did that? To save his crew? LOL.

Against Lakainu + 2 Marines ships (Lakainu wasn't alone that's a filthy lie), DF user Sanjuan needed to be saved as they can hardly move him without a ship on the sea, and his crew told BB they want to leave for another island.

Against Rayleigh + Hancock, he needed to take 2 stone commanders back.

You: BB should've hide behind his crew and let them die.

That's not how BB operates, the guy become a Shichibukai only to get that crew, he is not going to risk them. He was also angry at his crew that they attacked Ace. He values his crew a lot.
 
#37
He never even see any Yonko there, Shanks literally negged him from miles away. LOL.

Also, Shanks himself said GB knew Luffy and his crew were tired and wounded after the battle, which is why he told GB he is scared of the New Age because he attacks them when they were tired and wounded.



Perhaps because his crew was the reason he did that? To save his crew? LOL.

Against Lakainu + 2 Marines ships (Lakainu wasn't alone that's a filthy lie), DF user Sanjuan needed to be saved as they can hardly move him without a ship on the sea, and his crew told BB they want to leave for another island.

Against Rayleigh + Hancock, he needed to take 2 stone commanders back.

You: BB should've hide behind his crew and let them die.

That's not how BB operates, the guy become a Shichibukai only to get that crew, he is not going to risk them. He was also angry at his crew that they attacked Ace. He values his crew a lot.
:okay:.

Understandable, have a nice day.
 
#40
LMAO
Greenbitch didn't sail all the way from Marine HQ to Wano?
Except marine HQ is in the new world...
Greenbitch didn't even see Yonko Luffy, or even Yonko Shanks, Shanks send CoC Haki from miles away LOL
What? Not seeing doesn't mean he didn't know he was surrounded by the enemies.

He's not like Blackbeard, his haki is not so shit that he doesn't sense a person until it is right in front of him
what BB gained: knowledge about Seraphims, and captured Hero Koby, took his stone Yonko commanders back
knowledge about Seraphims? What about them did he gain?
What does he get from capturing a marine captain?
He lost his commanders in the first place.
2 Yonko commanders in exchange for Boa's fruit? Fair deal.
lmao he literally lost them when he tried gaining Boa's fruit
That's not an exhange. That's a net loss lmao
Same Rayleigh stopped Kizaru as well
Except Kizaru didn't stop and didn't retreat
If his Yonko commanders weren't there to save, BB would probably kill them anyways. Stone hostages forced BB make deal.
Except he was literally ready to kill her and did not care about his crew



Now let me ask you this:
  • Why didn't Blackbeard threaten Rayleigh with Boa? Boa is literally in his hand as a HOSTAGE and yet Rayleigh was the one making the demands
  • Why was Blackbeard so afraid of Boa's power when she was alone, yet when Rayleigh came he trusted her and let her go?
    Why did he let her go when Rayleigh showed up? Doesn't that put him in way worse situation than when Boa was alone? What was stopping her from stoning him with Rayleigh's help?
 
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