General & Others Which Moment was more Hype?

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#22
Destroying the RS implied that he rejects Science and sticks to his ideals.
Him calling Zoro and telling him to kill him if anything goes wrong is literally him underlining that he values his ideals, his chivalry over his own life.
Especially when at that point, in his mind, he was the one who hit that Geisha and that goes directly against his ideals.
Here are the issues with it:
- Sanji getting the exoskeleton thing was something Oda literally pulled outta his ass. There was zero hint about RS changing anything biologically, for all intents and purpose it was just an armour that enhanced stats
- Sanji didn't even hit the hoe, so Oda is having and cake and eating it too. Cowardly writing. I would've appreciated Sanji destroying his RS if Sanji actually hit the woman. Instead, what we essentially got was RS being destroyed as a result of some false flag operation.

That was because of the solid foundations regarding flowing Haki that Zoro already had since the Ts.
Basically what Luffy trained for 2 weeks in Wano to start doing, Zoro had in his bag since the Ts training = to flow haki outside of one's body & using it as a haki barrier in Luffy's case and through his swords to enhance his strikes in Zoro's case.
CoC coating also relies on the same principles, it's basically flowing CoC (like CoA) and using it to strike.

Luffy and Zoro already had the fundamentals on using CoC coating. They just needed to put 2 & 2 together and use it and that happened after seeing Kaidou wield it that way.
Issue here is that Zoro SKIPPED the entire step of having to master basic conqueror's haki.
He should technically be in the infancy stage that Luffy was in during Marienford, but apparently he can now willingly give conqueror's haki to his sword.

Point being, I am perfectly fine with Zoro having advanced conqueror's, as long as he has mastery of basic conqueror's haki. But that wasn't the case here
 

Warchief Sanji D Goat

Queen Gunko!➡️⬆️⬇️⬅️
#23
Imagine asking this in Worstgen lmao.

Anyway, it should be Zoro. Even if you put Sanji destroying the RS or Sanji's inner monologue, Zoro's would still win just cuz.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#27
Here are the issues with it:
- Sanji getting the exoskeleton thing was something Oda literally pulled outta his ass. There was zero hint about RS changing anything biologically, for all intents and purpose it was just an armour that enhanced stats
- Sanji didn't even hit the hoe, so Oda is having and cake and eating it too. Cowardly writing. I would've appreciated Sanji destroying his RS if Sanji actually hit the woman. Instead, what we essentially got was RS being destroyed as a result of some false flag operation.
I hated the RS, it was weird for Sanji to fight in a Power Ranger-esque suit and it being given as a cheap PU going against everything that WCI established was very stupid to me.
So i actually favor the transformation, no matter how asspull it seems, since it gives Sanji equivalent powers while not having a Power Ranger transformation.
Second point i agree, i actually liked it better when the Exoskeleton had a tradeoff with Sanji losing his ideals in exchange for power since it produced a struggle which we can then see the character overcome.

Nevertheless, the point i wanted to highlight was him making the decision and choosing to uphold his ideals over his own life. That's the highlight of that struggle and regardless of it being a copout since Queen hit the hoe, Sanji's decision is still commendable and is by far his best character moment in the Post TS.

Issue here is that Zoro SKIPPED the entire step of having to master basic conqueror's haki.
He should technically be in the infancy stage that Luffy was in during Marienford, but apparently he can now willingly give conqueror's haki to his sword.

Point being, I am perfectly fine with Zoro having advanced conqueror's, as long as he has mastery of basic conqueror's haki. But that wasn't the case here
He's basically imbuing CoC the same way into his swords like he does with CoA... He doesn't have to "master" basic CoC to do so when the actual technique he has to master is the Haki flow aspect which he already had.
Luffy had basic CoC developed and still couldn't coat his attacks with it until he mastered CoA flow. That's where the skill ceiling is at, not with knocking out fodders.

Plus, there's no such thing as "mastering" basic CoC. It's just a sign of potential and it being used to knock a few fodders is nothing special when you can't weaponize it.
 
#28
Lmao never compare those two please





No one cares about a esoskeleton even YC2 Queen can damage and an upgraded Diable Jambe

While Zoro's power
"ONLY A HANDFUL OF THE STRONGEST CAN"
"LIKE ROGER... ONLY HAKI TRASCENDS IT ALL"
"BEWARE OF LUFFY... HE HAS CONQUEROR'S HAKI, HIS POTENTIAL IS SUPERIOR TO EVEN LAW'S*"

* The guy with the most haxxed DF in the series


I love how before Zoro got Adv CoC it was all
"Adv CoC is the power of the absolute strongest, it separes the mightiest from the average, Zoro will never unlock it, at best at EoS if even"
"Zoro using Adv CoC in Ashura in ch. 1010? Clearly not, no black lighting sparkle, no Adv CoC, plus it's a conscious effort, and Kaido was wrong, there wasn't even basic CoC"

And then when Zoro got Adv CoC...
Which btw happened not at EoS but 20 CHAPTERS LATER
"Adv CoC is a common power up, everyone can use it, doesn't matter much, and Zoro's version is also the weakest btw because I said so"
"Zoro using Adv CoC in Ashura in ch. 1010? Clearly yes, in fact that's the best and the peak of Adv CoC he can do, what no black lighting sparkle despite that being used for Adv CoC even in the same chapter? Doesn't mean anything, it's Adv CoC, shut up"

See how these guys changes?
Damn they had a meltdown lol


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