Break Week Which monster trio would you prefer

[Finalbeta]

I honestly don’t. This was me telling the guy Jinbes at best a bit stronger than Franky.

I think Jinbe and Franky is an extreme diff fight in jinbes favor for no other reason than Jinbe has the most fighting experience so at least knows how to fight lots of different types of fighters

I would heavily disagree because Jinbe extreme diffed Sasaki who on paper could very well be as powerful as Who's Who or even less powerful.

Jinbe should probably be able to high diff Franky in one of the worst case scenarios, considering there aren't particularly bad match ups into place. But that being established, I also believe Franky being paralleled with Queen is an heavy dynamic and EoS Franky may indeed turn YC2.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I would heavily disagree because Jinbe extreme diffed Sasaki who on paper could very well be as powerful as Who's Who or even less powerful.

Jinbe should probably be able to high diff Franky in one of the worst case scenarios, considering there aren't particularly bad match ups into place. But that being established, I also believe Franky being paralleled with Queen is an heavy dynamic and EoS Franky may indeed turn YC2.

In my opinion EOS franky will be on the same level as Jinbe as I see EOS Franky fighting the strongest SSG member and EOS Jinbe fighting the leader of the CP0

 

[Kishido]

Everyone is YC2

 

[Finalbeta]

In my opinion EOS franky will be on the same level as Jinbe as I see EOS Franky fighting the strongest SSG member and EOS Jinbe fighting the leader of the CP0

Where would you rank Jinbe personally?

 

[stealthblack]

Usopp, luffy, chopper

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Where would you rank Jinbe personally?

Currently he’s fourth strongest.

 

[Finalbeta]

Currently he’s fourth strongest.

I meant which YC level specifically

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I meant which YC level specifically

I don’t believe in YC1/YC2/YC3 cause honestly the gaps between commanders don’t seem too big and Jinbes powers would work differently dependent on who they fight. Like I think he’d high diff smoothie but lose to Cracker because crackers biscuits are strong and don’t have water inside of them but smoothie has an abundance of liquid. If jacks awakened I’d say Jack would beat Jinbe tho. King and Queen both beat him as well.

 

[YonkoCommanderBepo]

Zoro - Sanji - Ussop: The Arlong park trio to mirror Beckman, Roux and Yassop

Ussop might be very weak in 1 vs 1 situations but he provides excellent support and cover in battles and will become the third most important fighter in Elbaf as the sniper of the crew. His high bounty might be a gag currently but Oda will turn it into reality after Elbaf

Yamato has no place in the crew. She's the Vivi of the new world

 

[Finalbeta]

I don’t believe in YC1/YC2/YC3 cause honestly the gaps between commanders don’t seem too big and Jinbes powers would work differently dependent on who they fight. Like I think he’d high diff smoothie but lose to Cracker because crackers biscuits are strong and don’t have water inside of them but smoothie has an abundance of liquid. If jacks awakened I’d say Jack would beat Jinbe tho. King and Queen both beat him as well.

It's just a way to suggest the range.

Low YC1 = Katakuri range
Mid YC1 = King range, Marco's
High YC1 = Shiryu range arguably
YC2 = we know this one
YC3 = Cracker and Jack who looked like possibly wield similar power levels

Of course one might disagree, it's no problem.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It's just a way to suggest the range.

Low YC1 = Katakuri range
Mid YC1 = King range, Marco's
High YC1 = Shiryu range arguably
YC2 = we know this one
YC3 = Cracker and Jack who looked like possibly wield similar power levels

Of course one might disagree, it's no problem.

Yeah In my opinion cracker and smoothie are in the same tier Which obviously goes against that YC3/YC2 thing

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Yeah In my opinion cracker and smoothie are in the same tier Which obviously goes against that YC3/YC2 thing

The real tiers are :

Yonko Commanders that have up to 1 Bil bounty

Yonko Commanders that have over 1 Bil bounty


Ever since WCI there's been constant hype about the "over 1 Billion berri bounty" characters.

Capone, Jimbe, Luffy all hyped up Katakuri with statements about how strong he must be to have "over 1 Billion beri bounty". One of Luffy's declaration was that he wants to surpass Katakuri and all his " 1 Billion beri bounty". Marco hyped up King and Queen and how difficult it is to try to stall two opponents with "over 1 Billion beri bounty".


There's a class of YC's that can get up to 1 Bil top and cap at that no matter what they do if they don't push to the next level of strength, and then there's the "over 1 Billion beri" Commanders like Katakuri, Queen, King, Marco, the monsters that have made it to the next level. Katakuri got there with Future sight. Queen got there by modifying his body like crazy. King got there with his special race traits. Marco got there with his broken Mythical Zoan.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The real tiers are :

Yonko Commanders that have up to 1 Bil bounty

Yonko Commanders that have over 1 Bil bounty


Ever since WCI there's been constant hype about the "over 1 Billion berri bounty" characters.

Capone, Jimbe, Luffy all hyped up Katakuri with statements about how strong he must be to have "over 1 Billion beri bounty". One of Luffy's declaration was that he wants to surpass Katakuri and all his " 1 Billion beri bounty". Marco hyped up King and Queen and how difficult it is to try to stall two opponents with "over 1 Billion beri bounty".


There's a class of YC's that can get up to 1 Bil top and cap at that no matter what they do if they don't push to the next level of strength, and then there's the "over 1 Billion beri" Commanders like Katakuri, Queen, King, Marco, the monsters that have made it to the next level. Katakuri got there with Future sight. Queen got there by modifying his body like crazy. King got there with his special race traits. Marco got there with his broken Mythical Zoan.

I do think the main difference is between those who go over 1 billion and those that don’t.

It’s probably like the next big “milestone.” It’s like what Jinbe said about surpassing 300 million. Once you do it’s hard to boost your bounty more than that. I think it’s -

300 millions - Your a high level pirate who’s made a name on the grand line
600 - 1 billion - You could be a low ranking commander of an emperor.
1 billion - 1.5 Billion - Your a high ranking commander of an emperor
1.5 billion+ - Your a force to be reckoned with in the new world that can begin to rival the emperors of the sea.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Luffy stands alone. Yamato next then Jinbei and Zoro

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Luffy stands alone. Yamato next then Jinbei and Zoro

Pirate king and his wings >>>

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Queen faked being unconscious to come up with a plan to deal with Big Mom, he only ended up taking superficial damage from that

Queen is an over 1,3 bil monster, in the same bounty bracket as King and Marco, with Marco validating his strength as being representative of his bounty when he had to face both him and King and the same time

Bounty doesn’t equal strength. Jack is in the same bounty bracket as Katakuri and they’re not even close in strength.

Queen faked being unconscious??? Stop it. His eyes were white which means he was unconscious.

That's why Jimbe is fighting one of the F6 along with the other SH's. That's why Jack was not designed to be Jimbe's opponent, or Oda did not allow Smoothie to come alongside Perospero to give Jimbe an opponent even comparable to Jack.

Jinbe Low dif’d the guy just under the commanders. He treated Who’s who the same way someone like Queen would.

Jimbe is not that guy. Jimbe's in the same tier range as the minks Duo without their sulong form or Ashura. They can confidently take on the F6 and mid diff them or so, but the likes of Jack going all out they can't really defeat, and best they can hope is to put up a good fight.

Queen is someone significantly stronger than even Jack to the point where he can bully him. Like i said, Queen, King and Marco share portrayal and levels of threat that Jimbe might not even reach by then end of the story

This is all headcannon. Jinbe more than likely beats Jack. From what weve seen Ace would beat Jack and Jinbe and Ace were equal. Jack has literally lost every fight he’s been in and has shown he’s basically a walking punching bag.
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Jinbe low diff wsw df is this & only Franky Shogun is destroyed bit Franky is fine with a few injuries , jinbe has more injuries than him df

Franky is fine cause he fought using Shogun. Shogun is destroyed so that’s extrem dif. Jinbe won with low dif because he sustained minimal damage in the fight, 1 scratch doesn’t make a fight mid dif.

was queen fine so how he got low diff & jinbe went up against a very weaken crazy mind big mom & he still got shit on the only good thing he did was push her off the ship how is that above queen who took full on attacks without using coa & got right up not so long & put her down, jinbe couldn't even stop big mom

Weakend BM with Haki and DF >>> BM with no haki or DF. Queen was one shot by the weaker BM while Jinbe Blocked and pushed back the stronger one. So based of feats Jinbe > Queen already.

 

[Rekien]

Only way Sanji joins the monster trio is if he unlocks some BS powerup because of the RS. and lets be real, Zoro has always been on par with Luffy while Sanji have always been lagging FAR behind. While Oda gives clear reasons as to why Zoro is not performing as well as Luffy when plot demands, thats never the case with Sanji, getting used as a cheap hype tool for Vergo, Doffy and many other characters. Only Luffy and Zoro fought seriously against each other even if for a little bit, only Luffy and Zoro where good enough for the supernovas, only Luffy and Zoro got trained by top tiers in the TS.

While a monster trio might have existed because Sanji was stronger than the weaklings of the crew, he was never on the same level as the other two, theres a big reason as to why Sanji always get matched up with joke opponents...Be it bon clay, the fatass in skypea(that he needed Luffy's help to beat), fucking Absalom....Lets face it the most serious enemy he ever won against was Jabra and that dude is pretty much also a joke, begging for mercy and making up a story about being Robin's lost brother in the middle of the fight.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Bounty doesn’t equal strength. Jack is in the same bounty bracket as Katakuri and they’re not even close in strength.

Queen faked being unconscious??? Stop it. His eyes were white which means he was unconscious.



Jinbe Low dif’d the guy just under the commanders. He treated Who’s who the same way someone like Queen would.




This is all headcannon. Jinbe more than likely beats Jack. From what weve seen Ace would beat Jack and Jinbe and Ace were equal. Jack has literally lost every fight he’s been in and has shown he’s basically a walking punching bag.
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He's outright shown on the ground buying time to think of a plan with us getting to hear his throught process as he is reacting to the events around him and getting angry at the news that Luffy ate his Oshiruko.


There are only two major "bounty brackets" for the Commanders

Up to 1 Billion
Over 1 Billion

It's been like 10 times already when characters with "over One Bilion" get special hype for surpassing that mark, and naturally the only Commanders that were hyped in that manner are Katakuri, Queen, King and Marco.

Saying that he defeated "the guy just under the commanders" it's like beating Pedro, and thinking you achieved anything close to beating one of the Dukes. The gap betwee the F6 and Jack is huge.

Your Ace scaling is irrelevant. Commander Ace >> Rookie Ace. Jimbe ~ Rookie Ace.

Jack defeated the whole army of Sulong Minks on the roof which was including all of the "guys just under the Sulong Dukes" in their Sulong form, since you want to do scaling based on this kind of stuff.

Jimbe can give Jack a pretty good fight, he'd just lose in the end.

Queen and King can mid diff Jack, they are on a different level.


Like i showed you, even Jimbe hypes up Katakuri through his bounty, because of how strong one needs to be to get that bounty. Same way Marco acknowledged Queens and Kings strength as worthy of opponents with "over 1 Bilion berri" bounties. That's a different bracket entirely, reserved for the strongest YC's.

 

[pg13]

Only way Sanji joins the monster trio is if he unlocks some BS powerup because of the RS. and lets be real, Zoro has always been on par with Luffy while Sanji have always been lagging FAR behind. While Oda gives clear reasons as to why Zoro is not performing as well as Luffy when plot demands, thats never the case with Sanji, getting used as a cheap hype tool for Vergo, Doffy and many other characters. Only Luffy and Zoro fought seriously against each other even if for a little bit, only Luffy and Zoro where good enough for the supernovas, only Luffy and Zoro got trained by top tiers in the TS.

While a monster trio might have existed because Sanji was stronger than the weaklings of the crew, he was never on the same level as the other two, theres a big reason as to why Sanji always get matched up with joke opponents...Be it bon clay, the fatass in skypea(that he needed Luffy's help to beat), fucking Absalom....Lets face it the most serious enemy he ever won against was Jabra and that dude is pretty much also a joke, begging for mercy and making up a story about being Robin's lost brother in the middle of the fight.

Tbh, Sanji never really feels close to Zoro until Enies Lobby. But like you said their not the Monster trio because their close to each other its because of how much stronger they are compared to the other crewmates. Where Sanji is in comparison to Luffy and Zoro has never really mattered , its about the ones below. With Jimbei its pretty clear Sanjis a bit stronger and it will probably be even more clear when we wake up tomorrow morning. Yamato is an unknown entity, The more we see with Yamato the clearer it gets that she's not joining.

 

[Finalbeta]

I hope the day will come when talking about monster trio shall have turned much more redundant.