General & Others Which of these 5 things has the most significant impact for the Admirals?

Most unexpected but welcome development for the Admirals?


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Warchief Sanji D Goat

Aliceliese Lou Nebulis IX The Ice Calamity Witch!❄
#21
Kizaru feeding Luffy impacted the community the most. Barely any Luffy fans show themselves on this site since that SBS dropped. Luffy's stocks plummeted so hard you have people trying to rewrite history and call Luffy a high tier outside of G5.
Kizaru shouting at Akainu wasn’t even that great for the Admiral agenda. Kizaru feeding Luffy was much better than this moment since it confirmed that a distracted Admiral wasn’t taking the strongest Yonko seriously, was not trying to kill him, and explicitly helped him, and the strongest Yonko still ended up looking like complete shit.
Lmao, I wish I was there when it happen.:kobeha:

I bet y'all were having a field day lol.
 
#22
Akainu’s 5 billion bounty was great but bounty scaling always is, always was, and always will be bullshit. It’s a fun reference point to mock idiots who ever took bounty scaling seriously but is not a serious argument for Akainu being stronger than the mere Yonko. Admiral fans who do anything more with this bounty than making fun of clowns who took this shit seriously are stooping to the levels of clowns and liars.
Bounty scaling is contextual.

King > Queen > Jack in bounty and King's bounty is around Marco's. In that context it's pretty clear what's Oda is trying to convey.

Bountywise the Tobiroppo also seem to match up to their bounty. So do the sweet commanders. Again showing contextual bounty scaling.

Which bring me to my next point. Akainu being one of only three characters with a PK bounty in the entire story is dramatically better portrayal than anything else, because even with the most retarded downplay you have to admit Sakazuki is Yonko level:
The Admirals' Reward
And the fact that FA Akainu has 5 crowns or 5BI surprised me because it is something that even the most ridiculed Yonkou could have (Big Mom)
It's not about the ceiling, it's about the floor.

There is no rational way even with roundabout excuses or downplay to get Sakazuki below a certain level of power with a bounty THAT high. All of the other stuff is great, but the problem is that it doesn't firmly establish a clear bottom line.

Ryokugyu’s black blade will never again be matched in the agenda wars. Ryokugyu’s black blade was the reverse ZKK, only a small number of Admiral fans defended this position and we ended up making 90% of the One Piece fandom look like the retards they are. Such a catastrophic W will never exist again for any other fandom including Admiral fans.
Ryokugyu's black blade isn't even believed by 90% of the community, King of Casuals Morj literally denied in a stream recently lmao
 
#23
Hmm, I see it. That is pretty consistent with how blades are drawn, very helpful. Genuinely a strange way of introducing such a massive reveal though. It had such little focus in the chapter itself that I didn't even think of Greenbull having a Black Blade until I came here and saw people arguing about it.
It's pretty consistent with Gennai Aramaki thought, the Ronin Gai character from which Aramaki takes name and actor resemblance.

Gennai Aramaki reveals only at the end to be a genius swordsman.

Ryokugyu’s black blade will never again be matched in the agenda wars. Ryokugyu’s black blade was the reverse ZKK, only a small number of Admiral fans defended this position and we ended up making 90% of the One Piece fandom look like the retards they are. Such a catastrophic W will never exist again for any other fandom including Admiral fans.
Aramaki's BB was and always will be my favourite battle. I have spilled my blood on that cause when basically no one had.
However, for now, it is kind of a niche battle. Only real fans think of Black Blades; casuals don't and won't until Zoro Is forging his and Oda hypes them on screen.

Akainu's 5B had way more impact on casuals. Also, It was great to see Oda did exactly what we had predicted with his bounty, a thing that was hinted in various ways.
 
#26
Lmao, I wish I was there when it happen.:kobeha:

I bet y'all were having a field day lol.
It was really something lol.

Especially because I had to bear tons of users bascially shouting It wasn't Kizaru for a year straight against all concrete evidence lol.

Durableguy in particular repeated like a mantra that I was "gaslighting" the community lol.

Ryokugyu's black blade isn't even believed by 90% of the community, King of Casuals Morj literally denied in a stream recently lmao
Lol, what he said?

Didn't know that, but that'd be a sick connection. I genuinely didn't understand the pro-BB argument since in casual circles it's not even seen as a debate.
Yeah, I don't see the Black Blade being discussed outside very dedicated palaces like this one. Idk why, after we saw the blade again in chapter 1054 the "error" explanation should have already been put aside.
Then the volume came, in which errors are corrected, and the sword was still the same (and It was already such a big page - the presentation page of a new admiral- and such a big detail that idk how the error was even an option).

Then, recently, OP Wall, VC and colored manga came and in all the sword was black.

I don't know why this Isn't widely discussed if not for the fact that casuals don't care about BBs for now.

About Gannai Aramaki, yes, this Is his plot:

One of Harada's most notable roles was that of Gen'nai Aramaki in the cult classic Rônin-gai (the 1990 adaptation). Gen'nai Aramaki is a masterless drunkard samurai (with a love interest he fails to save by the end of the film, hmm). On the surface he seems to be a dimwitted bum that performs very poorly in his first fight of the film, basically jobbing.

However, during the film's climax, when the life of Aramaki's lover is at stake, it is finally revealed that he is indeed a truly excellent swordsman, it's just that he kept his skills a secret.
 

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#27
I feel like you're missing how important it was that Akainu was shown as someone who isn't angry 24/7, and was able to show respect in that moment. A lot of fans have a very one dimensional black and white view of his character, but that scene showed a different side. It also doesn't help that his character has been flanderized in some ways and is usually just yelling or getting mad post time skip, with his new smoking habit showing him as someone who is very stressed etc. Imo it is his best moment in probably a decade.
Akainu was never one dimensional ever since Oda drew him gardening, ever since we saw how rough his childhood was, and ever since he spared Kuzan. It was always clear there was far more to his character than being a one dimensional screaming man, the Kizaru moment was just more fuel to that fire.

Kizaru screaming at Akainu was a far bigger moment for Kizaru than it was for Akainu. It was the first and only time we’ve ever seen a passionate Kizaru in the manga.

Aramaki's BB was and always will be my favourite battle. I have spilled my blood on that cause when basically no one had.
However, for now, it is kind of a niche battle. Only real fans think of Black Blades; casuals don't and won't until Zoro Is forging his and Oda hypes them on screen.

Akainu's 5B had way more impact on casuals. Also, It was great to see Oda did exactly what we had predicted with his bounty, a thing that was hinted in various ways.
Aramaki’s black blade was goddamn trench warfare, we were surrounded on all sides and even our fellow Admiral fans abandoned us when Fuckup Animation drew the white toothpick lol. Aramaki’s black blade separated the boys from the men, myself alongside @Kurozumi Wiwi @Dragon777 @RyoQ etc are the strongest Admiral fans for that experience alone lmfao.
 
#28
Aramaki’s black blade was goddamn trench warfare, we were surrounded on all sides and even our fellow Admiral fans abandoned us when Fuckup Animation drew the white toothpick lol. Aramaki’s black blade separated the boys from the men, myself alongside @Kurozumi Wiwi @Dragon777 @RyoQ etc are the strongest Admiral fans for that experience alone lmfao.
What a battle that was. And It started right away in the month-long hiatus after that very 1053 lol.

And randomly changing Ryo's blade adding a sheath (because imho It's clearly a sheath, It has no cutting edge at all) remains one of the dumbest things ever made by the anime.
 
#29
Akainu was never one dimensional ever since Oda drew him gardening, ever since we saw how rough his childhood was, and ever since he spared Kuzan. It was always clear there was far more to his character than being a one dimensional screaming man, the Kizaru moment was just more fuel to that fire.

Kizaru screaming at Akainu was a far bigger moment for Kizaru than it was for Akainu. It was the first and only time we’ve ever seen a passionate Kizaru in the manga.



Aramaki’s black blade was goddamn trench warfare, we were surrounded on all sides and even our fellow Admiral fans abandoned us when Fuckup Animation drew the white toothpick lol. Aramaki’s black blade separated the boys from the men, myself alongside @Kurozumi Wiwi @Dragon777 @RyoQ etc are the strongest Admiral fans for that experience alone lmfao.
Agreed, but it was nice to see it in the story, because a lot of the other stuff was old as well( I think the childhood one was from around FMI), so I think it made me a lot more hype to see Akainus role in the future story and made it more clear for the fans who don't spend much time thinking about the characters
 
#32
Is GB having a black blade confirmed? Considering the way he fights he must have found it.
After volume, OP Wall, VC and colored manga, yes.

Anyway, having found It doesn't really make sense. Oda in the final battle against the Marine won't create a plot of a super random samurai having his sword stolen, just so Greenbull has a decorative sword that he doesn't even user properly.

Anyway, Gennai Aramaki's plot is precisely being an "undercover" great samurai.
 
#33
I also really liked the reveal about Greenbull and Fujitoras past, it is a bit annoying when Oda reveals things outside the story, but he seemed to imply we will see the real thing in the manga since it was kept secretive, and also could be interesting to see a perspective outside of a typical Pirate/Marine one, and I like the drawings of them as kids
 
#34
Akainu was never one dimensional ever since Oda drew him gardening, ever since we saw how rough his childhood was, and ever since he spared Kuzan. It was always clear there was far more to his character than being a one dimensional screaming man, the Kizaru moment was just more fuel to that fire.

Kizaru screaming at Akainu was a far bigger moment for Kizaru than it was for Akainu. It was the first and only time we’ve ever seen a passionate Kizaru in the manga.



Aramaki’s black blade was goddamn trench warfare, we were surrounded on all sides and even our fellow Admiral fans abandoned us when Fuckup Animation drew the white toothpick lol. Aramaki’s black blade separated the boys from the men, myself alongside @Kurozumi Wiwi @Dragon777 @RyoQ etc are the strongest Admiral fans for that experience alone lmfao.
 
#35
After volume, OP Wall, VC and colored manga, yes.

Anyway, having found It doesn't really make sense. Oda in the final battle against the Marine won't create a plot of a super random samurai having his sword stolen, just so Greenbull has a decorative sword that he doesn't even user properly.

Anyway, Gennai Aramaki's plot is precisely being an "undercover" great samurai.
Bro it was a joke lighten up
 
#38
@Dragon777 @RyoQ @ZenZu See above is the reason it's Akainu's bounty, even in the downplay they have to say it's a yonko level bounty LMAO
Position≠strength
Sakazuki is worth 5 billion because of the position he occupies, and not because of the strength he represents.
In the very panel itself, it is stated that Big Mom could have been an Admiral and even a Fleet Admiral if she had joined the Marines. This proves that the FA position was within her reach, just as it was for Sakazuki.

Now, if Akainu has a theoretical bounty of 5 billion due to his position, the same would apply to Big Mom if she held that rank. This means her bounty in the Marines would be 5 billion, regardless of any other factors.

Marking a bunch of retards doesn't change the fact that Kaidou is stronger than Akainu and his bounty is lower, cry about it.

If Big Mom, at her peak as a pirate, had a bounty of 4.38 billion, then if someone had become FA before her in the Marines and she had taken the position of Admiral, her bounty would have been reduced to around 3 billion solely because of the position. This clearly shows that these bounties do not purely reflect strength but rather a mix of position.

If her bounty as a pirate was higher than it would have been as an Admiral, this proves that bounties tied to Marine ranks are not a reliable indicator for measuring power levels.
 
#39
Position≠strength
Sakazuki is worth 5 billion because of the position he occupies, and not because of the strength he represents.
In the very panel itself, it is stated that Big Mom could have been an Admiral and even a Fleet Admiral if she had joined the Marines. This proves that the FA position was within her reach, just as it was for Sakazuki.

Now, if Akainu has a theoretical bounty of 5 billion due to his position, the same would apply to Big Mom if she held that rank. This means her bounty in the Marines would be 5 billion, regardless of any other factors.

Marking a bunch of retards doesn't change the fact that Kaidou is stronger than Akainu and his bounty is lower, cry about it.

If Big Mom, at her peak as a pirate, had a bounty of 4.38 billion, then if someone had become FA before her in the Marines and she had taken the position of Admiral, her bounty would have been reduced to around 3 billion solely because of the position. This clearly shows that these bounties do not purely reflect strength but rather a mix of position.

If her bounty as a pirate was higher than it would have been as an Admiral, this proves that bounties tied to Marine ranks are not a reliable indicator for measuring power levels.
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