Character Discussion Which option ruins Zoro's character
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Well if that's what you consider ruining Zoro's character, I guess it's already ruined.
Chapter 989, Luffy says "I'm going up to take out Kaido!!! You guys handle the rest!!! Watch my back!!!"
Chapter 997, Zoro says "They say Kaido's the toughest guy in the world!! So I'm here to slice him into pieces!!"
Zoro effectively ignores Luffy's orders and decides to focus on Kaido, even though Luffy wants to beat him...
Was Luffy angered about it? No.
The best way to figure out what will happen with Zoro and etcetera is by asking yourself what Zoro's character goals are.
Let's assume we're at a point where Zoro just got healed.
In 1015, everyone learns that Luffy is alive and that he will return to the battle.
But he isn't there yet, Kaido for now is on the loose.
If Zoro is healed *prior* to Luffy's comeback being announced.
Then, given his declarations so far in the arc, he should want to go to Kaido.
He isn't or wouldn't be aware that Yamato is there holding off Kaido.
It would be very uncharacteristic to simply shift his focus to King while allowing Kaido to roam free.
Though, the big assumption here is that Marco stays with King.
If for some reason Marco went away or got defeated, then Zoro's focus shifting to King *could* make sense.
Though, the priorities would still be inconsistent.
In 997, Zoro entrusted others in handling the live floor. Why wouldn't it be the same here again?
If Marco is gone, Kawamatsu and Izo are both people Zoro could entrust in handling King.
If Marco stays with King, then Zoro would rush to Kaido.
Luffy would also naturally want to immediately come back to Kaido.
The timing could play out to be perfect for both Luffy and Zoro to return while Kaido is about to defeat/kill/etcetera Yamato.
Another thing. I think that people just don't understand what "cut down", "slay", or "slice into pieces" means.
In a more literal sense, these are all ways to describing killing.
Though, in One Piece, it wouldn't be incorrect for these terms to be used for defeating someone instead.
I think people see the word cut in "cut down" and see that Zoro cut Kaido, so they think he achieved his goal.
He absolutely did not achieve his goal, he went there to kill/defeat Kaido. He failed, just like Luffy.
He will come back, just like Luffy.
He will achieve his goal, just like Luffy.
Chapter 989, Luffy says "I'm going up to take out Kaido!!! You guys handle the rest!!! Watch my back!!!"
Chapter 997, Zoro says "They say Kaido's the toughest guy in the world!! So I'm here to slice him into pieces!!"
Zoro effectively ignores Luffy's orders and decides to focus on Kaido, even though Luffy wants to beat him...
Was Luffy angered about it? No.
The best way to figure out what will happen with Zoro and etcetera is by asking yourself what Zoro's character goals are.
Let's assume we're at a point where Zoro just got healed.
In 1015, everyone learns that Luffy is alive and that he will return to the battle.
But he isn't there yet, Kaido for now is on the loose.
If Zoro is healed *prior* to Luffy's comeback being announced.
Then, given his declarations so far in the arc, he should want to go to Kaido.
He isn't or wouldn't be aware that Yamato is there holding off Kaido.
It would be very uncharacteristic to simply shift his focus to King while allowing Kaido to roam free.
Though, the big assumption here is that Marco stays with King.
If for some reason Marco went away or got defeated, then Zoro's focus shifting to King *could* make sense.
Though, the priorities would still be inconsistent.
In 997, Zoro entrusted others in handling the live floor. Why wouldn't it be the same here again?
If Marco is gone, Kawamatsu and Izo are both people Zoro could entrust in handling King.
If Marco stays with King, then Zoro would rush to Kaido.
Luffy would also naturally want to immediately come back to Kaido.
The timing could play out to be perfect for both Luffy and Zoro to return while Kaido is about to defeat/kill/etcetera Yamato.
Another thing. I think that people just don't understand what "cut down", "slay", or "slice into pieces" means.
In a more literal sense, these are all ways to describing killing.
Though, in One Piece, it wouldn't be incorrect for these terms to be used for defeating someone instead.
I think people see the word cut in "cut down" and see that Zoro cut Kaido, so they think he achieved his goal.
He absolutely did not achieve his goal, he went there to kill/defeat Kaido. He failed, just like Luffy.
He will come back, just like Luffy.
He will achieve his goal, just like Luffy.
Just like how Luffy won't 1v1 Arlong, Crocodile, Doflamingo, Katakuri, etc.
Oh wait.
Oh wait.
He didnt beat Doffy in a 1v1 either, since Law nerfed the crap out of him before Luffy had his 1v1, and still lost the first time needing people to keep him away from Doffy for whole 10 minutes. And Katakuri it was obvious he would be 1v1, who else you expected to help him? Fucking Sanji the inconpetent?
None of these characters where hyped as "strongest character currently alive in the verse" like Kaido has been. If he beats the strongest character alive in the verse in a 1v1, whats left for him to fight?
He didnt beat Doffy in a 1v1 either, since Law nerfed the crap out of him before Luffy had his 1v1, and still lost the first time needing people to keep him away from Doffy for whole 10 minutes. And Katakuri it was obvious he would be 1v1, who else you expected to help him? Fucking Sanji the inconpetent?
He didnt beat Doffy in a 1v1 either, since Law nerfed the crap out of him before Luffy had his 1v1, and still lost the first time needing people to keep him away from Doffy for whole 10 minutes. And Katakuri it was obvious he would be 1v1, who else you expected to help him? Fucking Sanji the inconpetent?
And that's the point, Doffy got nerfed by Law just like how Kaido got nerfed by the Supernova. And unlike Dressrosa, Luffy got 2 power-ups to keep up with Kaido. And Luffy hasn't use Gear 2/3/4 as well. Yamato is stalling Kaido until Luffy comes back like she stated before.
I added another option in the poll - neither of those situations ruins Zoro character.
If Zoro gives up to fight Kaido, I will view him as a big joke seriously. He made an epic announcement to 10,000 people at live floor. Then people witness him running around live floor and fight King instead? It is too shameful in my opinion.
For people who said that Zoro already cut Kaido and already fulfilled his statement, please open the dictionary and figure out what "cut down" actually means.
If Zoro gives up to fight Kaido, I will view him as a big joke seriously. He made an epic announcement to 10,000 people at live floor. Then people witness him running around live floor and fight King instead? It is too shameful in my opinion.
For people who said that Zoro already cut Kaido and already fulfilled his statement, please open the dictionary and figure out what "cut down" actually means.
During the 20 years , when did Luffy defeat opponent with somebody.
Dont count Law.
All his fight ended with 1 vs 1 eventually.
Forget about Kaido.
Also , somebody must defeat King . And zoro must be the one.
My prediction is King vs Zoro , after finishing all of things , zoro will go behing Orochi to kill him.
After finishing , onishgama issue and orochi issu should be solved.
Dont count Law.
All his fight ended with 1 vs 1 eventually.
Forget about Kaido.
Also , somebody must defeat King . And zoro must be the one.
My prediction is King vs Zoro , after finishing all of things , zoro will go behing Orochi to kill him.
After finishing , onishgama issue and orochi issu should be solved.
