Controversial Which side truly gets more hate in the One Piece community. Yonko's or Admirals?
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When it comes to Agenda Piece (i.e. power scaling wars), Admirals and Admiral fandom get more hate. Pretty much all the hate I see towards Admirals mostly stems from Agenda Piece.
When it comes to legitimately hating a character for who they are and not what they are then the character that gets the most hate individually is probably Linlin. Plenty of people outside of Agenda Piece hated her character and how Oda fumbled her.
When it comes to legitimately hating a character for who they are and not what they are then the character that gets the most hate individually is probably Linlin. Plenty of people outside of Agenda Piece hated her character and how Oda fumbled her.
Didn’t we already have a similar thread? I’m getting deja vu.
Anyway, it’s the Admirals objectively. It’s acknowledged by the mods on this site, and pretty apparent on every other site too.
In every metric used, whether it’s the stupidest claims used to hate, the neurotic behaviour, childish insults, trolling, baiting, toxicity, etc. It’s also pretty ironic because you’ll find some of the usual suspects who do so playing victim when they’re called out on it.
The ones that go all in by putting on an online persona are usually amusing albeit tiring because you know they don’t actually believe the silly stuff they say and just find entertainment in it somehow.
Some do actually delude themselves into believing their own crap…but they usually have a psychotic breakdown at some point.
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Big Mom gets thrown under the bus because even some of the most hardcore Yonko fans know that Oda’s treatment of her has done them no favours.
Such a shame because she was more interesting than Kaido, with great material in the 1st half of WCI. She just became a casualty in the shot show in Wano.
Anyway, it’s the Admirals objectively. It’s acknowledged by the mods on this site, and pretty apparent on every other site too.
In every metric used, whether it’s the stupidest claims used to hate, the neurotic behaviour, childish insults, trolling, baiting, toxicity, etc. It’s also pretty ironic because you’ll find some of the usual suspects who do so playing victim when they’re called out on it.
The ones that go all in by putting on an online persona are usually amusing albeit tiring because you know they don’t actually believe the silly stuff they say and just find entertainment in it somehow.
Some do actually delude themselves into believing their own crap…but they usually have a psychotic breakdown at some point.
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Big Mom gets thrown under the bus because even some of the most hardcore Yonko fans know that Oda’s treatment of her has done them no favours.
Such a shame because she was more interesting than Kaido, with great material in the 1st half of WCI. She just became a casualty in the shot show in Wano.
I know Admiral hate in the community was always there but in the past as far as I can remember I don't think it was that bad, it's just that lately ever since Kaido and Big Mom were defeated the hate has been increasing more and more it seems.
Also I agree about Big Mom, imo she was way more interesting than Kaido and had a better backstory as well.
She was really decent during the first half of the WCI arc but ever since the second half things went downhill for her, heck her treatment in the second half of the WCI arc is still way better than how she was treated during the Wano arc.
Also I agree about Big Mom, imo she was way more interesting than Kaido and had a better backstory as well.
She was really decent during the first half of the WCI arc but ever since the second half things went downhill for her, heck her treatment in the second half of the WCI arc is still way better than how she was treated during the Wano arc.
The recent hate just seems to be the predictable backlash from the haters who were disappointed that their fantasies didn’t come true.
A lot of them were losing their minds at a Yonko (Luffy) calling an Admiral strong at all, for example.
It was always obvious that the Admirals would only be seen in full action after 2 Yonko had already fell…but it doesn’t seem that it really registered for some of the haters until the current arc. They then reacted accordingly.
To be fair….it’s not all bad considering that some of the more ridiculous things that some people were using to hate have been discarded or toned down. I guess because they were partly too stupid to try to maintain with a straight face.
Either way, I don’t think the hate will ever disappear because it’s too ingrained in some. It seems to be literally all they can think about…like it’s a personal insult to them to even say anything good about the Admirals. Or even for an Admiral to just exist.
I really don’t get it and it’s never made any sense, but it is what it is.
A lot of them were losing their minds at a Yonko (Luffy) calling an Admiral strong at all, for example.
It was always obvious that the Admirals would only be seen in full action after 2 Yonko had already fell…but it doesn’t seem that it really registered for some of the haters until the current arc. They then reacted accordingly.
To be fair….it’s not all bad considering that some of the more ridiculous things that some people were using to hate have been discarded or toned down. I guess because they were partly too stupid to try to maintain with a straight face.
Either way, I don’t think the hate will ever disappear because it’s too ingrained in some. It seems to be literally all they can think about…like it’s a personal insult to them to even say anything good about the Admirals. Or even for an Admiral to just exist.
I really don’t get it and it’s never made any sense, but it is what it is.
Well, that sort of insecurity is to be expected. I have seen others like PaperChampion be called an “Admiral stan” too for just saying common sense stuff.
Like I said, a lot of the Admiral hate isn’t logical to begin with. So it’s no surprise that a lot of illogical behaviour is used in hating them. It’s grade school childishness from what I assume are full grown ass men (although I have my doubts about some of them…)
Like I said, a lot of the Admiral hate isn’t logical to begin with. So it’s no surprise that a lot of illogical behaviour is used in hating them. It’s grade school childishness from what I assume are full grown ass men (although I have my doubts about some of them…)
What even is this thread, is this some victim complex like saying we get more hate? 
The answer is Admirals here in WG as it should be thanks to the toxicity you guys make.
Yonko gets more hate in general. Only WB and Shanks is loved for the most people.
Other than him Kaido, BM, Buggy and BB is controversial to people i should say. There are lots of people who dont like this characters.
But everyone loves all the Admirals similarly (Except Chadbull).
The answer is Admirals here in WG as it should be thanks to the toxicity you guys make.
Yonko gets more hate in general. Only WB and Shanks is loved for the most people.
Other than him Kaido, BM, Buggy and BB is controversial to people i should say. There are lots of people who dont like this characters.
But everyone loves all the Admirals similarly (Except Chadbull).
What even is this thread, is this some victim complex like saying we get more hate?
The answer is Admirals here in WG as it should be thanks to the toxicity you guys make.
Yonko gets more hate in general. Only WB and Shanks is loved for the most people.
Other than him Kaido, BM, Buggy and BB is controversial to people i should say. There are lots of people who dont like this characters.
But everyone loves all the Admirals similarly (Except Chadbull).
The answer is Admirals here in WG as it should be thanks to the toxicity you guys make.
Yonko gets more hate in general. Only WB and Shanks is loved for the most people.
Other than him Kaido, BM, Buggy and BB is controversial to people i should say. There are lots of people who dont like this characters.
But everyone loves all the Admirals similarly (Except Chadbull).
Also I like how you and others always think it's the Admiral fans that always makes the toxicity, but ignore the other side that also do the same.
Admirals get more hated on.
And contrary to what many post here, it isn't some form of backlash against admiral agenda bois.
Yonko fans push massive agendas as well. In fact, the agendas pushed by Yonko fans at large was worse IMO, when takes like 1 yonko = 2 admirals or even 3 admirals were quite prevalent.
Though honestly, that is on Oda to an extend too because he made the narrative of admirals more subtle compared to Yonkos who get wanked often on screen. I also had Yonko mid-high diffing admiral when I was a casual, based on Marineford showings, and I never had any agenda against admirals ever. I changed my mind only after listening to narrative arguments of admirals in forums.
Admiral fans for the most part, were right in that admirals and Yonkos are in the same tier. Which we are increasingly seeing to be the reality. Truth IMO is that Yonkos "on average" are stronger than admirals, but the gap is still not high enough that they are a different tier.
Still, the higher levels of the "top tier" (i.e the ones the fandom generally considers "high top tier" or above) are usually just Yonko like pirates with advanced conqueror's haki - Rocks, Roger, WB, Kaido, Mihawk (real yonko of CG), Shanks, Rayleigh. Garp, Sengoku and maybe Akainu are really the only "admirals" at this highest level.
All that being said, Admirals get more hate simply because Yonkos have more fans, well since this is a manga about pirates.
And contrary to what many post here, it isn't some form of backlash against admiral agenda bois.
Yonko fans push massive agendas as well. In fact, the agendas pushed by Yonko fans at large was worse IMO, when takes like 1 yonko = 2 admirals or even 3 admirals were quite prevalent.
Though honestly, that is on Oda to an extend too because he made the narrative of admirals more subtle compared to Yonkos who get wanked often on screen. I also had Yonko mid-high diffing admiral when I was a casual, based on Marineford showings, and I never had any agenda against admirals ever. I changed my mind only after listening to narrative arguments of admirals in forums.
Admiral fans for the most part, were right in that admirals and Yonkos are in the same tier. Which we are increasingly seeing to be the reality. Truth IMO is that Yonkos "on average" are stronger than admirals, but the gap is still not high enough that they are a different tier.
Still, the higher levels of the "top tier" (i.e the ones the fandom generally considers "high top tier" or above) are usually just Yonko like pirates with advanced conqueror's haki - Rocks, Roger, WB, Kaido, Mihawk (real yonko of CG), Shanks, Rayleigh. Garp, Sengoku and maybe Akainu are really the only "admirals" at this highest level.
All that being said, Admirals get more hate simply because Yonkos have more fans, well since this is a manga about pirates.
I didnt say the other side doesnt have toxicity. Erkan, Tejas and Ndule gets called all the time for their toxicities. Difference is that most Admiral fans are delusional about the characters. Apparently no one can tank WSG because Kizaru got knocked out in a hit. Not even Yonko can tank it normally. Thats the argument someone came against me.
Admirals gets hate but not as much the characters i called before. Not even close, even today there are people saying Kaido couldnt even kill Kinemon terrible villain.
Kaido gets called terrible villain, people hate BB because he is the reason Ace died, Buggy is a complete joke character and BM who gets the most hate all the time. You just cant say Admirals gets more hate because you saw more slandering against Admirals today.
Admirals gets hate but not as much the characters i called before. Not even close, even today there are people saying Kaido couldnt even kill Kinemon terrible villain.
Kaido gets called terrible villain, people hate BB because he is the reason Ace died, Buggy is a complete joke character and BM who gets the most hate all the time. You just cant say Admirals gets more hate because you saw more slandering against Admirals today.