General & Others Which type of One Piece fans you get annoyed by the most?

[PirateKingDrew]

Because they both pushed one another to become great. They both were a byproduct of the ninja world. They both tried to seek meaning while challenging one another.
Naruto tried to have people find him cool like sasuke because that might have him feel better.

Sasuke was already cool but could not care less about other peoples reaction towards him because he did not like the objectification.

I can go on and on

Sasuke pushed Naruto in the beginning during abuza and the forest of death but after that the only thing pushing Naruto is protecting those he cares for its how he gets stronger than Sasuke. so Pushing to get stronger was not reciproacted by Sasuke he did nothing but look down on naruto the entire series and the one time he thinks oh crap this guys stronger than me he runs away.

sure they were shaped by the ninja world but what does that have to do with their "rivalry" literally every charcter in teh story is shaped by the ninja world cause you know they live in it. they were lonely cause they had no family? neither did Gaara and he was a better rival to Naruto for the entire Chuunin Exam/Konoha Crush section of teh story than Sasuke ever was.

Sasuke does nothing but seak meaning through revenge for the whole story, first his brother then the village, Naruto isnt involved at all.

are you seriously gonna use "I want to be cool" as a serious argument for what makes a rivalry.

I have no idea what that has anything to do with what we are talking about. Itachi storyline is better than anything One Piece. Jirarya is a better character than any character in One Piece. Naruto and Sasuke rivalry is better than anything One Piece rivalry. Akatsuki are infinitely better than Yonkos or World Government. Asuma character arc is infinitely better than any character story in One Piece.

It has to do with increasing Itachi's involvement in the story to generate sales and merchandise revenue.
Jiraiya is a brilliant character, easily one of Narutos best.

I've already said in above posts why Naruto/Sasuke is not a rivalry. it's a one way fascination on Naruto's side while Sasuke wants nothing to do with him the entire second half of the story. thats not a rivalry

Blackbeard has been one of the best built up villains in any series to date, no one in akatsuki comes close to him, dont even pretend Obito does cause that was an ever bigger cop out than Law and Kid beating Big Mom

Asuma had a great character arc but Robin's and Usopp during water 7/Enies Lobby are better. Usopp's fear of being weak and left behind like the merry and eventually figuring out just because he's not physically the strongest doesn't mean he's being left behind, only he could do what was neceserry to stop Robin being taken through the gates of justice, robin wanting to abandon everything before her greatest fears of being abandoned again like she has her entire life and finding that the SH will never abandon her, they would rather die with her, so she finally has the family she's always wanted and then when its over finally stars calling the crew by their actual names sintaed of longnose, cook or navigator

I know you dont like one piece much and i know that post time skip one piece isnt anywhere near as good as it used to be but dont pretend the first half wasn't excellent just because its quality has dipped nowadays

 

[BleakAsh]

People who whine alot and spout redundant BS just coz the story ain't going their way

 

[Herrera95]

You know the hate against Zoro Fans is absurd when people vote more for it than Oda's stroke off...

 

[Peroroncino]

You know the hate against Zoro Fans is absurd when people vote more for it than Oda's stroke off...

Zoro carries op how many times do we have to be reminded of that?

 

[Herrera95]

Zoro carries op how many times do we have to be reminded of that?

???????????

 

[PirateKingDrew]

Zoro carries op how many times do we have to be reminded of that?

are you telling us that or asking lol

cause one piece survived rather well from amazon lily - post-marineford without him, in fact it sold 32 million that year having its biggest sales year ever. so i'm pretty sure Luffy carries one piece.

 

[Thabeast]

I can kinda tolerate fanboys who stroke off to Oda but I do have one type of fandom who I genuinely hate lol and they are Zoro power scalers. Like guys Zoro isn't real, he is a fictional character. Every thread no matter which forum I go to is 80% dominated by Zoro power scalers. Like why? There is nothing complex about Zoro's character to have this much love for him. If it was Itachi, or Eren, or Killua, or Meruem, or Vegeta, etc. I would understand the love but fucking bland ass meat head Zoro? Really? Lmfao!

So you're just annoyed that so much people like a character that you don't like, pretty much.

If you don't like Zoro fans, there are platforms such as Reddit which is full of Zoro haters, you'd fit right in.

If anything, people who don't understand a character and just shit on him because they don't personally like him are much worse. Defending your favourite character is one thing, but hating on a fictional character is another...

 

[Midnight Delight]

People who think watching Subhuman content like Redlettermedia or Nostalgia critic or Dunkey makes them experts on art criticism

 

[Peroroncino]

So you're just annoyed that so much people like a character that you don't like, pretty much.

If you don't like Zoro fans, there are platforms such as Reddit which is full of Zoro haters, you'd fit right in.

If anything, people who don't understand a character and just shit on him because they don't personally like him are much worse. Defending your favourite character is one thing, but hating on a fictional character is another...

He cant quit this forum or onepice he already tried twice but he always comes back to write essays on the series he quit reading...

 

[Pooth]

Sasuke pushed Naruto in the beginning during abuza and the forest of death but after that the only thing pushing Naruto is protecting those he cares for its how he gets stronger than Sasuke. so Pushing to get stronger was not reciproacted by Sasuke he did nothing but look down on naruto the entire series and the one time he thinks oh crap this guys stronger than me he runs away.

sure they were shaped by the ninja world but what does that have to do with their "rivalry" literally every charcter in teh story is shaped by the ninja world cause you know they live in it. they were lonely cause they had no family? neither did Gaara and he was a better rival to Naruto for the entire Chuunin Exam/Konoha Crush section of teh story than Sasuke ever was.

Sasuke does nothing but seak meaning through revenge for the whole story, first his brother then the village, Naruto isnt involved at all.

are you seriously gonna use "I want to be cool" as a serious argument for what makes a rivalry.




It has to do with increasing Itachi's involvement in the story to generate sales and merchandise revenue.
Jiraiya is a brilliant character, easily one of Narutos best.

I've already said in above posts why Naruto/Sasuke is not a rivalry. it's a one way fascination on Naruto's side while Sasuke wants nothing to do with him the entire second half of the story. thats not a rivalry

I guess Sasuke telling naruto he wanted to fight him at the chuunin exams is a one way fascination. I guess sasuke learning about naruto beating pain is an one way fascination. Please go reread the story again.

 

[Peroroncino]

Itachi was barely involved in the story, and had one arc dedicated to him that lasted less than 10 chapters. Idk how you came to that conclusion.

Blackbeard barely has gotten panel time dude. Kiku has gotten more panel time than BB has this entire 1000+ chapter story. And Obito was terrible decision by Kishimoto, I am not comparing Obito to BB. I am comparing other villain's like Pain to BB or Madara to BB. They both are much better characters.

Robin's character arc by far is the best thing One Piece has going for it so I don't disagree there but in hindsight her character arc has been shafted of her doing absolutely nothing after that arc. Kinemon has gotten more panel time than Robin has the entire post time skip arc. What does that say about Oda?

Also, I loved pretime skip One Piece. I had four posters Robin, Bonney, Law flag and Doflamingo but then I threw it away because of how awful post time skip has been particularly WCI and Wano. All those build ups in pretime skip amounted to nothing therefore why Naruto is much better than One Piece since Kishimoto actually progressed the story unlike One Piece were the story goes off a tangent where we constantly ask ourselves what the fuck was the point of that.

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@Thabeast No i don't hate Zoro, I just feel like the love you guys give him is too much. He is just an average character. Nothing so great about him to have to constantly fill up threads discussing Zoro power scales. Go look at all the threads here and you will notice that about more than half of it will be about Zoro power scaling.

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@Peroroncino who are you? I seriously don't know who you are but apparently I live rent free in your head. Glad that you know me so well. Also, I never said I would be leaving worstgen permanently. I said I was going to drop One Piece which I did, and I will come back to worstgen to do a full analysis on Wano arc which I did. And also why do you care? I am glad I live rent free in your mind dude, I feel flattered.

Wano arc isnt over also how can an a analysis on an arc you quit reading?

 

[PirateKingDrew]

Itachi was barely involved in the story, and had one arc dedicated to him that lasted less than 10 chapters. Idk how you came to that conclusion.

Blackbeard barely has gotten panel time dude. Kiku has gotten more panel time than BB has this entire 1000+ chapter story. And Obito was terrible decision by Kishimoto, I am not comparing Obito to BB. I am comparing other villain's like Pain to BB or Madara to BB. They both are much better characters.

Robin's character arc by far is the best thing One Piece has going for it so I don't disagree there but in hindsight her character arc has been shafted of her doing absolutely nothing after that arc. Kinemon has gotten more panel time than Robin has the entire post time skip arc. What does that say about Oda?

Also, I loved pretime skip One Piece. I had four posters Robin, Bonney, Law flag and Doflamingo but then I threw it away because of how awful post time skip has been particularly WCI and Wano. All those build ups in pretime skip amounted to nothing therefore why Naruto is much better than One Piece since Kishimoto actually progressed the story unlike One Piece were the story goes off a tangent where we constantly ask ourselves what the fuck was the point of that.

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@Thabeast No i don't hate Zoro, I just feel like the love you guys give him is too much. He is just an average character. Nothing so great about him to have to constantly fill up threads discussing Zoro power scales. Go look at all the threads here and you will notice that about more than half of it will be about Zoro power scaling.

Itachi was massively involved in the ninja war and was the main reason Kabuto was defeated. if you take out that itachi retcon then the story could have ended after pain since it would simply have been a case of sasuke being hunted down by naruto and they reconcile since sasuke got his revenge then its just dealing with Zetsu, Kisame and Tobi who should have been Madara. you have team 7 reunite for one final mission to hunt those 3 down and beat them and viola series is shortened by about 17 volumes and we avoid an awful ninja world war

How has oda not progressed the story? Zou revealed how to get to laugh tale and gave us one of the 4 poneglyphs needed to get there, whole cake delievered the second and when wano is done we will have the 3rd. if thats not story progression then what is?
Fishman island, zou and reverie have contributed story points to be resolved in the void century flashback

sorry but Madara is not a character, he has as much personality as a plank of wood, if he had been Tobi then this is a completey different coversation but unfortunately thats not what happened, he was revived in a world war that wasnt needed and because kishi couldnt come up with a way to legitimately beat him he got dues ex machina'd for Kaguya who was written specifically to have an exact way to beat her, i dont think Kishi even bothered explaining why she wnated to take over the world or any of that crap, she had no reason to fight anyoen she could have just went of and lived her life. i think this has been explained away now in the movies or boruto but i havent read or watched any of that so if it has tell me why she had to fight naruto and co and take over the world.

Nagato was cool but then he spoiled everything with his resurrection jutsu at the end of his arc which made the entire thing have no consequences. and no Danzo isn't a conequence cause he never got anything done since sasuke killed him almost immediately after he got any power.

Panel time means nothing, Robin doenst need a great amount of panel time right now, this story is about kinemon, momoa nd the samurai and why they will eb so important to the "dawn" of teh world. robin will get all the pnael time in the world when she is revealing how we get to laugh tale an dthen telling us what the wepaons area nd who joyboy is and what happened during teh void century, her time is yet to come.

You wnat things rushed to a finish, oda doenst do that, one piece is and always will be a slow burn, your not going to get quick pay offs to things that wont be revealed until laugh tale. most people though skypiea was a pointless arc but oh look the sky peopel are from teh ancient civilization and they live don the moon, look at thats its important afterall and how many peopel have skipped it and going to ask themselves, wtf doe sthe moon and ancient gold cities have to do with the void century, their loss now cause they rushed passed it.

Blackbeard's panel time has given him everything he needs in the story to get him where he needs to be so i dunno what you were expecting, he's given teh dream speech, beaten ace, became a shichibukai, recruited his crew, became a yonko, hordes devil fruits and is currently on the move for unknown reasons, he's done a hell of a lot for his panel time. and he'll get much more when he gets his moment as main antagonist of the laugh tale or final war arcs

 

[kumae]

People who hate on a ficticional character honestly I don't know what's wrong with that people mind

 

[PirateKingDrew]

I guess Sasuke telling naruto he wanted to fight him at the chuunin exams is a one way fascination. I guess sasuke learning about naruto beating pain is an one way fascination. Please go reread the story again.

The chuunin exma bit sure your right, but i like i already tld you the rivalry goes out teh window when he runs away so its irrelavnt.
how does being told information about Naruto merita rivalry.

hey guess what vegeta, goku went for a bath today. rivalry increase +1, can tell him any information about anyone it doenst increase teh rivalry.

they met 3 times in the entire second half, at oro's hideout, at teh 5 kage summit and then at the end to fight Madara/Kaguya. you cant be rivals and not be involved in each other lives, it doesn't work that way. they dont influence one another growth at all, they dont see any of the others accomplishments an dthink i have to outdo that, i ahve to dos omething better or greater, all naruto wnats is to get him back and all sasuke wnats is to get away.
Naruto is a stalker not a rival

 

[lee33]

Wano arc isnt over also how can an a analysis on an arc you quit reading?

@Peroroncino You do know Wano is separated in three different acts right? You can do an analysis on an arc that is over 130+ chapters and four years long even though it isn't finished yet. There is more than enough content to analyze it now. I don't understand your thinking at all.

 

[PirateKingDrew]

Dude EVERYONE came back in the ninja war. Zabusa came, Old lady from the sand village came back, all akatsuki members came back, everybody came back except for Jiraya. Idk why you single out Itachi as coming back in the ninja war when literally everyone came back lol. Also, I will respond to the remainder of your post later as it is too long to read now.

I single Itachi out because he got the most "Panel" time as you put it, he defeated one of the major villains, he helped end the reincarnation jutsu, he was a major factor in Naruto's side winning.

 

[lee33]

I single Itachi out because he got the most "Panel" time as you put it, he defeated one of the major villains, he helped end the reincarnation jutsu, he was a major factor in Naruto's side winning.

But why does that bother you? I don't understand. Itachi came back just like every other character and he played a bigger role because his role in the story is bigger. Zabusa role in the story is small that is why he didn't play a big role in the ninja war. Itachi coming back provided closure to Sasuke so there was a reason to bring him back. Sure Kishimoto could have handled it better but Itachi coming back isn't that big of a problem as you are making it out to be.

 

[Peroroncino]

@Peroroncino You do know Wano is separated in three different acts right? You can do an analysis on an arc that is over 130+ chapters and four years long even though it isn't finished yet. There is more than enough content to analysis it now. I don't understand your thinking at all.

You just made a thread bitching that kaido felt some pain when momo bit him that is fairly recent in act 3 clearly you didnt quit reading shit.
At least try to sound believable when you lie. And admit you cant stop reading op.
If all these bitching threads is what you do to make yourself feel smart thats all cool.
But dont pretend you quit for what is like the3rd time now.
We have plenty of guus like you who say they quit but always come back we were talking about it on discord today and of course your name came up as one of those who cant stop coming back.

 

[Swordtaker]

Zolotrds, you know they are too annoying man, theyre like enemy of every fanboys, theyre insecure of luffy, kid, law, etc,

also you always hear the most stupid wanks from these fanboys, like for example, Pica >>> tobiropo. King >>> kaido Killer >>> Sanji,
and any stpd made up claims like ZKK, rooftop level and shit. and they also love to create HS insults like candy, condom etc

 

[Peroroncino]

Lmfao dude chill! You are making this sound so personal. Momo making Kaido scream was the chapter I stopped reading Wano. I couldn't take Oda seriously after reading that chapter so I dropped then.

you were also bitching about xdrake being offscreened recently so that's another lie