Character Discussion Whitebeard deeply wanted to get revenge from Blackbeard ,but didn’t want to avenge Oden for obvious reasons.

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#42
WB didn’t win the Character tournament because of that fucking chapter released during the finale….
Fuck Oda, you could have waited a little
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#43
@Seth I don't defend Wano much but I think the "Oda ruined Whitebeard with chapter 999" debate is a lot more complicated than that.

Whitebeard would've probably fought Kaidou for Oden, if not for meeting Roger (before his death) and learning about the One Piece and the prophecy about "Joyboy" that Roger and Oden were talking about.

I think it stands to reason that Whitebeard accepted that Kaidou's defeat and the liberation of Wano should come from the hands of that chosen one/Joyboy that Oden and Roger talked about as it is his destiny to do so, and not Whitebeard's.

We'll probably learn more once we get the full exposition dump on the prophecy.
 

Gol D. Roger

ȶɦɛ քɨʀǟȶɛ ӄɨռɢ
#44
WB was always a cautious man who'd avoid unnecessary conflict whenever it was possible. He cared about his people, but he was not dumb enough to make pointless sacrifices for revenge. I am not sure what the fuss is about WB not avenging Oden when he more or less chose to do the same to Thatch. WB didn't even consider chasing after BB despite there being no consequences to killing BB. MF war happened because Ace could be saved, so WB risked everything to save him. It's a different story when you're seeking revenge for a fallen crew member.

Do you all remember what Ace told Luffy when he went to MF? He told him that he has no business getting involved with his adventures and their consequences. Oden always considered Wano his own problem. He openly declined any help from outsiders and WB understands it perfectly. Oden fought his own fight and lost regardless of how it was done.

Whitebeard was a pirate, not a hero. He probably hated Kaido for killing Oden but he has no business getting involved in Oden's country and sacrificing the Wano people and his own crew members just to satisfy his own ego.

Also, I love how people ignore the fact that Kaido and WB were crewmates once. If even BM sees Kaido like a little brother, then it's possible WB too shared a similar relationship with Kaido.
 
#46
WB was always a cautious man who'd avoid unnecessary conflict whenever it was possible. He cared about his people, but he was not dumb enough to make pointless sacrifices for revenge. I am not sure what the fuss is about WB not avenging Oden when he more or less chose to do the same to Thatch. WB didn't even consider chasing after BB despite there being no consequences to killing BB. MF war happened because Ace could be saved so WB risked everything. It's a different story when you're seeking revenge for a fallen crew member.

Do you all remember what Ace told Luffy when he went to MF? He told him that he has no business getting involved with his adventures and their consequences. Oden always considered Wano his own problem. He openly declined any help from outsiders and WB understands it perfectly. Oden fought his own fight and lost regardless of how it's done.

Whitebeard was a pirate, not a hero. He probably hated Kaido for killing Oden but he has no business getting involved in Oden's country and sacrificing the Wano people and his own crew members just to satisfy his own ego.

Also, I love how people ignore the fact that Kaido and WB were crewmates once. If even BM sees Kaido like a little brother, then it's possible WB too shared a similar relationship with Kaido.
Thank you. I like to think people can understand the characters and story without explicit dialogue, but this understanding seemed to be missing from the beginning.

Well there's that and people who insisted on Marco indicating a plot hole. I don't think those people are willing to stand corrected, so now this whole thing can never make sense to them.
 
#48
it all make sense if kaido is stronger than wb......
its really that simple
Why not , at the end of the day , kaido has no scars , WB has bunch of them lol
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WB knows how fucked up Kaido is but he still let it happen? Prime WB scared of young Kaido? There's no use for that strength without balls
Wdym by “how fucked up kaido is ? ” how would he know that kaido is in wano ?
 
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Formerly Seth

#49
No deaths in wano is a flaw , fake deaths is a flaw , what does this have to do with whitebeard

you are just a brainless narutard who mentions irrelevant arguments.

Oda foreshadowed him on wb’s ship since marineford, the reason ? Probably to make Oda beg to WB and how badly he wanted to go to laugh tale.

And yes every detail in one piece matters , stick to your surface level naruto shit and stfu
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You are rating one of the best piece of literature 3/10 and complaining that iam rating it 10/10 , by your logic , we are the same , are being subjective for our agenda , but this is just your logic of course , you are no one , you are just a kid with some kind of inferiority complex
You are no one. You haven't touched literature in your fucking life if you rate One Piece 10/10 you delusional fanboy.
 
#50
You are no one. You haven't touched literature in your fucking life if you rate One Piece 10/10 you delusional fanboy.
Just repeating my words.

you know that you are a subjective hater , you never read a book in yourlife

anyone who rates op below 9/10 is just a delusional mf who have no literature knowledge, and it is funny that most of the haters here are narutards , the fandom of the manga that is topped by one piece in every writing and literary aspect , so you come to this sub to fill the holes in your sick personality
 
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Formerly Seth

#51
Just repeating my words.

you know that you are a subjective hater , you never read a book in yourlife

anyone who rates op below 9/10 is just a delusional mf who have no literature knowledge, and it is funny that most of the haters here are narutards , the fandom of the manga that is topped by one piece in every writing and literary aspect , so you come to this sub to fill the holes in your sick personality
I read a lot of books in my life. One Piece would be yet another subpar piece of fantasy that wouldn't sell well if it was in form of a book.

Oda can't write interesting stories especially post ts. Pre ts he at least had some ideas and clues about what he is doing. Post ts is a downward spiral.

How can one read post ts and still think of One Piece as 10/10? One delusional mofo.
 
#52
I read a lot of books in my life. One Piece would be yet another subpar piece of fantasy that wouldn't sell well if it was in form of a book.

Oda can't write interesting stories especially post ts. Pre ts he at least had some ideas and clues about what he is doing. Post ts is a downward spiral.

How can one read post ts and still think of One Piece as 10/10? One delusional mofo.
No you didn’t read any book in your life .

i would rather believe booktubers who are really into the books and who say that op would do the same as a book and will have even more popularity because they think that manga medium is overlooked .

interesting stories ? Oda wrote doflamingo flashback, which is the best written and the most nuanced short flashback in all manga , so you are just being delusional narutard or aotard or whatever the tard you are
 
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Formerly Seth

#53
No you didn’t read any book in your life .

i would rather believe booktubers who are really into the books and who say that op would do the same as a book and will have even more popularity because they think that manga medium is overlooked .

interesting stories ? Oda wrote doflamingo flashback, which is the best written and the most nuanced short flashback in all manga , so you are just being delusional narutard or aotard or whatever the tard you are
Doflamingo's story was neat. Sadly it can't save the entire time skip fiasco. U just dumb.

Touch some grass delusional fanboy. One Piece never sat next to literature.
 
#54
Doflamingo's story was neat. Sadly it can't save the entire time skip fiasco. U just dumb.

Touch some grass delusional fanboy. One Piece never sat next to literature.
Who said that this is the only thing , it is just an indication for what the level of writing can reach .

Again , you are no one , you are so disparate that you spent years in a sub just to hate on the series because it outshines your favorite show in every single aspect , at this point you are just pathetic ,
 
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Formerly Seth

#55
Who said that this is the only thing , it is just an indication for what the level of writing can reach .

Again , you are no one , you are so disparate that you spent years in a sub just to hate on the series because it outshines your favorite show in every single aspect , at this point you are just pathetic ,
Go touch some grass. One Piece never was and never will be 10/10. Delusional fanboy.
 
#56
Go touch some grass. One Piece never was and never will be 10/10. Delusional fanboy.
Lol , One piece will never be less than 10/10 , the fact that you can’t leave the cave proves it , you are just a kid who have no life and can spend the rest of his life doing the same thing because of his insecurities
 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
#57
The reason was that while he was angry for Oden he had already died so this was rather about a sterile revenge that could have armed his own sons that were still standing alive :josad:
 
#58
--I didn't read OP's post ; as for why WB didn't attack kaido? Its because of plot

--He attacks WG which is > BP and its not like Kaido wasn't going out on expeditions and WB being a yonko should have network and info for such and fight BP during these expeditions
 
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Formerly Seth

#59
Lol , One piece will never be less than 10/10 , the fact that you can’t leave the cave proves it , you are just a kid who have no life and can spend the rest of his life doing the same thing because of his insecurities
Says a dude who was probably run off of another forum/Twitter or whatever to end up on 100 people+ forum and scream PLS PLS don't hate my manga because it's 10/10 untouchable no flaws best piece of literature.
 
#60
--I didn't read OP's post ; as for why WB didn't attack kaido? Its because of plot

--He attacks WG which is > BP and its not like Kaido wasn't going out on expeditions and WB being a yonko should have network and info for such and fight BP during these expeditions
What is the point of losing his sons for revenge? It was a battle, oden lost and that’s it , he wasn’t eating in his hall then get killed , he lost in a fight , there is literally no point in fighting kaido
 
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