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Who are the better characters


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#23
Quick name 1 character trait of Minato beyond being good
Why should i answer something you're gonna planely reject

There is a reason why he won the popularity poll even after it being botched by Onepiece fans

Dude was a child kf prophecy candidate, genius, extremely wise and meticulous.

Just his stature made the world shook ifbhe was in the battle field

Over all a splendid charcter

Call It bias but whatbelse did you expect
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No comparison between him and someone who fight old men on his last legs

Akainu's charcter hype comes from folks thagt hyperbolize his aggression and sense of his wicked justice

Until he gets proper charcter development he can wash minato's feet till then
 
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RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#24
How is Kizaru better written than Tsunade??
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Tsunade is an amazingly written character. Idk what the people in this thread are on lol. They just don't like her because she's not crazy powerful
Tsunade is the best Hokage by a looonnnggg shot

Hiruzen is maybe more interesting than her but she was totally okay

But you’re underestimating Kizaru character a lot here

Power isn’t part of the equation at all here. the two most powerful Hokage Hashirama and Minato are the two lamest ones and most vanilla ones (especially Minato)
 
#25
Best Admiral by far is Kuzan, 2nd Kizaru

Love them but @notAfanboy

Ok maybe for Kuzan ye but not kizaru
Better characters in terms of implementing the rules and protecting the village/world?
I am going to answer this based on their supposed roles in the story.

Because of their similar positions I think Hokage did a better job.

Kuzan joined the villain's side and now he is BB's 10th captain.
Yes, he is a complex character and the only admiral I like in OP.

Likewise, Madara-Hashirama dynamics were better than Kuzan-Akainu dynamics.

Admirals are second fiddles in the story, but Hokages were different.

I dont know, how can I say Kuzan or Akainu (ADMIRAL) is better than Naruto (HOKAGE) as a character? :sanmoji: That's why he is not on the list.
 
#26
Tsunade is the best Hokage by a looonnnggg shot

Hiruzen is maybe more interesting than her but she was totally okay

But you’re underestimating Kizaru character a lot here

Power isn’t part of the equation at all here. the two most powerful Hokage Hashirama and Minato are the two lamest ones and most vanilla one (especially Minato)
When was the last time you read anything about minato?
 
#27
Why should i answer something you're gonna planely reject

There is a reason why he won the popularity poll even after it being botched by Onepiece fans

Dude was a child kf prophecy candidate, genius, extremely wise and meticulous.
Anyone with a cool design can win a popularity poll that means nothing when it comes to actually being interesting or well written. The other traits you listed are the most cookie cutter generic shit ever oh he’s kind, wise, noble with no character flaws no meaningful dynamic with other characters no overlying ideology just a vanilla cookie cutter good guy.
No comparison between him and someone who fight old men on his last legs

Akainu's charcter hype comes from folks thagt hyperbolize his aggression and sense of his wicked justice

Until he gets proper charcter development he can wash minato's feet till then
Akainu was more interesting than Minato with just Marineford. He doesn’t need character development (not that Minato got any either way). It’s not even that Akainu is this masterpiece character it’s just that Minato is so boring. Wallahi you could make a good case Captain Kuro is better written
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I dont know, how can I say Kuzan or Akainu (ADMIRAL) is better than Naruto (HOKAGE) as a character? :sanmoji: That's why he is not on the list.
You can’t compare a main character to a side character with not a hundredth of the screen time
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Oda ruined Kizaru's character in Egghead.

Tsunade is a well written character, she just doesn't get credit from powerscaling junkies because she's not a top tier
Explain how he ruined his character?
 
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#28
Better characters in terms of implementing the rules and protecting the village/world?
I am going to answer this based on their supposed roles in the story.

Because of their similar positions I think Hokage did a better job.

Kuzan joined the villain's side and now he is BB's 10th captain.
Yes, he is a complex character and the only admiral I like in OP.

Likewise, Madara-Hashirama dynamics were better than Kuzan-Akainu dynamics.

Admirals are second fiddles in the story, but Hokages were different.

I dont know, how can I say Kuzan or Akainu (ADMIRAL) is better than Naruto (HOKAGE) as a character? :sanmoji: That's why he is not on the list.
I mean you have to take them at face value hokage Minato was a child of prof candidate by Jiraya and was also pivotal enough that Hiruzen actually alluded that he'd solve the Uchiha crises..

If you look at some of the decisions he made as a hokage was that he'd rather seal the 9TF in his child than let it run loose with the foresight that he'll handle it.. The kind of revolve it takes as a father and a leader to do that with his wife dying in his hands

Huh definitely very vanilla

Anyone with a cool design can win a popularity poll that means nothing when it comes to actually being interesting or well written. The other traits you listed are the most cookie cutter generic shit ever oh he’s kind, wise, noble with no character flaws no meaningful dynamic with other characters no overlying ideology just a vanilla cookie cutter good guy.
Bias, good for you if you wanna nitpick nuances for one charcter and not others . Maybe reread naruto and ponder over ad much as you do with onepiece



Akainu was more interesting than Minato with just Marineford. He doesn’t need character development (not that Minato got any either way). It’s not even that Akainu is this masterpiece character it’s just that Minato is so boring. Wallahi you could make a good case Captain Kuro is better written
Akainu is the least interesting Admiral bar Ryokugyu

Idk how he isnt the cookie cutter vanilla bad guy with a twisted sense of justice that require a cheap justification like "he doesn't need development "

And don't say Wallahi on trivial things like this, its makruh.
 
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#29
I mean you have to take them at face value hokage Minato was a child of prof candidate by Jiraya and was also pivotal enough that Hiruzen actually alluded that he'd solve the Uchiha crises..

If you look at some of the decisions he made as a hokage was that he'd rather seal the 9TF in his child than let it run loose with the foresight that


Bias, good for you if you wanna nitpick nuances for one charcter and not others . Maybe reread naruto and ponder over ad much as you do with onepiece

You're clearly gonna ignore


Akainu is the least interesting Admiral bar Ryokugyu

Idk how he isnt the cookie cutter vanilla bad guy with a twisted sense of justice that require a cheap justification like "he doesn't need justification"

And don't say Wallahi on trivial things like this, its haram.
Wallahi!
 
#31
Bias, good for you if you wanna nitpick nuances for one charcter and not others . Maybe reread naruto and ponder over ad much as you do with onepiece
If you really think Minato is that good of a character it shouldn’t be this hard to explain what makes him interesting. I’m not even asking you to write on essay on the themes he represents and his complex motivations. I’m asking you for 1 character trait beyond being good.

Akainu is the least interesting Admiral bar Ryokugyu

Idk how he isnt the cookie cutter vanilla bad guy with a twisted sense of justice that require a cheap justification like "he doesn't need justification"

And don't say Wallahi on trivial things like this, its haram.
Ryokugyu has great potential he’s actually the admiral I’m most excited for

Also don’t make up rulings on the spot find me a Hadith or scholarly opinion saying such a thing
 
#32
If you really think Minato is that good of a character it shouldn’t be this hard to explain what makes him interesting. I’m not even asking you to write on essay on the themes he represents and his complex motivations. I’m asking you for 1 character trait beyond being good.
Beyond being good?

He was bad at recognizing his own student when fighting him.
He sacrificed his and wife's life for the good of the village. This showed his conviction in the short screen time he got.
He was indirectly responsible for Naruto's childhood problems.

I dont know what else you expect from him.
Remind yourself what are the roles of admirals and homage; is not it to protect?

Good luck finding character traits in supporting characters.

They usually fulfill their role and die. That's what happened in case of Hokages.
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Ryokugyu has great potential
Why do you cheer for losers like Ryokugyu?

Just trying to be different?
 
#33
If you really think Minato is that good of a character it shouldn’t be this hard to explain what makes him interesting. I’m not even asking you to write on essay on the themes he represents and his complex motivations. I’m asking you for 1 character trait beyond being good.
I mean Obviously you're gonna ignore the fact that requires a nuanced characteristics and traits dealing with this themes and to deal with such complexities. You sound like those that try decipher every bit of nuance and emotion that a charcter doesn't express based on the plots they deal with but don't apply the same standard to others.

Like what kinda of enduring character minato is

makes reckless decisions, looses his students, wife, child, and still thinks for the betterment of the village.

nah very vanilla...innit?
 
#34
I mean Obviously you're gonna ignore the fact that requires a nuanced characteristics and traits dealing with this themes and to deal with such complexities. You sound like those that try decipher every bit of nuance and emotion that a charcter doesn't express based on the plots they deal with but don't apply the same standard to others.

Like what kinda of enduring character minato is

makes reckless decisions, looses his students, wife, child, and still thinks for the betterment of the village.

nah very vanilla...innit?
Beyond being good?

He was bad at recognizing his own student when fighting him.
He sacrificed his and wife's life for the good of the village. This showed his conviction in the short screen time he got.
He was indirectly responsible for Naruto's childhood problems.

I dont know what else you expect from him.
Remind yourself what are the roles of admirals and homage; is not it to protect?

Good luck finding character traits in supporting characters.

They usually fulfill their role and die. That's what happened in case of Hokages.
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Why do you cheer for losers like Ryokugyu?

Just trying to be different?
Sacrificing for the village being the ultimate good guy aren’t unique character traits stop the cope
 
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