General & Others Who are their first mate

Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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Who joined first
Looking at other crews confirmed first to join
  1. Zoro joined luffy first
  2. Rayleigh Roger
  3. Streusen Linlin
  4. Arber kaido
  5. Killer kid
  6. Bepo law
  7. Ivankov dragon
  8. Vergo? Doflamingo
  9. Etc

So who was Newgate’s first recruit?
Obviously wasn’t ace oden or teach and Marco and jozu were just apprentices at the time. Tho technically Marco being an apprentice doesn’t really stop him from being the first wbp. IMO outside of Marco it’s between vista, whitey bay, and rakuyo. Why? Because their the most in the front…
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Who do you think was teach’s first recruit?
Imo it’s between laffitte and burgess but I lean more towards laffitte since he seems the most standout og member


I don’t think we officially know but im pretty sure Beckman is shanks’s first successful recruit. Them having a relationship similar to kid/killer and Roger/rayleigh Beckman being referred to as his partner


Also on the marine side of things bogard was definitely Garp’s first mate same way helmeppo and Tashigi are to Koby and smoker
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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MonsterKaido said:
I do believe young marco joined WB first. King was also pretty young when he joined Kaido. If not marco then rakuyo.

For BB I bet on burgess.

Benn 99% for shanks.
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King joined kaido after rocks disbanded
Whitebeard was a captain before joining rocks. Which means Marco who’s already younger than king would basically be a baby
 
soupongo

soupongo

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Whitebeard was on the older side when he started his crew, so yes his first mate was probably a younger apprentice like Marco, as we know he had the whole father figure thing going with his children. With Blackbeard it´s interesting, because he recruited many of those members very suddenly after starting a crew, just like Luffy lol. Who knows how he met them, but I think Burgess would be first since he seems like the easiest to convince. For Shanks, it´s probably just ben beckman like you said. With Garp, it´s likely the ghost of a dead baby who was killed by the celestial dragons while Garp was guarding them
 
Kung-Fu Dugong

Kung-Fu Dugong

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WB's first mate was Marco and he was probably the first to join too. We know for sure that WB started recruiting crewmembers 33 years before the current times (Marco was 12 years old at the time).


Now you could ask, how do we know that his first crewmate was Marco? Well, we don't really know, but the anime has a quick recap of the formation of the WB Pirates (episode #485) and Marco was shown as the first to join. It does seem to have a few inconsistencies though, as Fossa is shown as one of the last to join, although he was in the crew at least since they arrived in Wano for the 1st time, and Speed Jiru is hinted to have joined before Fossa and Izou, although he couldn't be seen anywhere in Oden's flashback.


In any case, after WB died Marco was considered their commander by both Shanks (chapter #580) and the Gorosei (chapter #594). Oda also drew him in his "first mates" color spread (chapter #1031).


Blackbeard's first mate is Shiryu and Shanks' first mate is Beckman, according to the color spread above. (Fyi, the first mate isn't necessarily the first member to join the crew; as you can see, Streusen also isn't Linlin's first mate, it's Katakuri.)

I know that Oda already said that not all of them are the first mates of their respective crews, but I believe they're all the right hands in general terms (it's a sum of strength and authority, I think).

D: Hello, Odacchi! Looking at the cover page of Chapter 1031, it seems like Bepo is the No. 2 of the Heart Pirates, right!? I was surprised because I thought that Penguin, Shachi, and Bepo were all tied for No. 2! Are you saying that Bepo (with Sulong?) is the strongest between them? P.N. Pudding-ya

O: That cover, huh? Similar to Zoro, not all of those characters have the title of first mate. I selected the No. 2s as I saw fit. Usually, Shachi and Penguin are more dependable, but those two—who have seen Bepo's Sulong form—are no match for Bepo in terms of fighting power...! I acknowledge him.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_102
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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Kung-Fu Dugong said:
WB's first mate was Marco and he was probably the first to join too. We know for sure that WB started recruiting crewmembers 33 years before the current times (Marco was 12 years old at the time).


Now you could ask, how do we know that his first crewmate was Marco? Well, we don't really know, but the anime has a quick recap of the formation of the WB Pirates (episode #485) and Marco was shown as the first to join. It does seem to have a few inconsistencies though, as Fossa is shown as one of the last to join, although he was in the crew at least since they arrived in Wano for the 1st time, and Speed Jiru is hinted to have joined before Fossa and Izou, although he couldn't be seen anywhere in Oden's flashback.


In any case, after WB died Marco was considered their commander by both Shanks (chapter #580) and the Gorosei (chapter #594). Oda also drew him in his "first mates" color spread (chapter #1031).


Blackbeard's first mate is Shiryu and Shanks' first mate is Beckman, according to the color spread above. (Fyi, the first mate isn't necessarily the first member to join the crew; as you can see, Streusen also isn't Linlin's first mate, it's Katakuri.)

I know that Oda already said that not all of them are the first mates of their respective crews, but I believe they're all the right hands in general terms (it's a sum of strength and authority, I think).

D: Hello, Odacchi! Looking at the cover page of Chapter 1031, it seems like Bepo is the No. 2 of the Heart Pirates, right!? I was surprised because I thought that Penguin, Shachi, and Bepo were all tied for No. 2! Are you saying that Bepo (with Sulong?) is the strongest between them? P.N. Pudding-ya

O: That cover, huh? Similar to Zoro, not all of those characters have the title of first mate. I selected the No. 2s as I saw fit. Usually, Shachi and Penguin are more dependable, but those two—who have seen Bepo's Sulong form—are no match for Bepo in terms of fighting power...! I acknowledge him.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_102
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We don’t know when Whitebeard started recruiting tho. They gathered new recruits post rocks but that doesn’t mean that’s when they started
Big mom being the best example


Streusen is big mom’s first mate and the first member of her crew. Even if you don’t want to count him perospero was born first
And no shiryu isn’t blackbeards first mate. He didn’t join first

Being the strongest known/active member doesn’t make you the first mate it only makes you the next strongest

Again first mate is literally just first to join
 
Kung-Fu Dugong

Kung-Fu Dugong

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Albino 👑 said:
We don’t know when Whitebeard started recruiting tho. They gathered new recruits post rocks but that doesn’t mean that’s when they started
Big mom being the best example


Streusen is big mom’s first mate and the first member of her crew. Even if you don’t want to count him perospero was born first
And no shiryu isn’t blackbeards first mate. He didn’t join first

Being the strongest known/active member doesn’t make you the first mate it only makes you the next strongest

Again first mate is literally just first to join
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Not sure if you read any of my post, but check out the page I posted on "Spoiler: Chapter 962", it specifically says that the Rocks remnants started recruiting 33 years ago. Big Mom was already a pirate alongside Streusen even before joining Rocks (and even had a lot of her children already), but the Big Mom Pirates apparently were formed only 33 years ago.

The first mate isn't necessarily the first to join, it's actually the crewmember with more authority after the captain. And in One Piece we usually have 2nd strongest crewmember as the first mate.
 
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JoNdule

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Kung-Fu Dugong said:
Not sure if you read any of my post, but check out the page I posted on "Spoiler: Chapter 962", it specifically says that the Rocks remnants started recruiting 33 years ago. Big Mom was already a pirate alongside Streusen even before joining Rocks (and even had a lot of her children already), but the Big Mom Pirates apparently were formed only 33 years ago.

The first mate isn't necessarily the first to join, it's actually the crewmember with more authority after the captain. And in One Piece we usually have 2nd strongest crewmember as the first mate.
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Marco isn't WB first mate or else he wouldn't rookie
Vista and Rakuyo wouldn't be commanding him around back then
 
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