General & Others Who can defeat PEAK World Government?

#1
Peak World Government doesn’t exist since the World government are a bunch of incompetent idiots. And they have to be idiots so the Good guys can win.

But let’s assume such a concept as “Peak World Government” could exist, what are the level of forces that can defeat them?

Peak World Government is

1. Imu actually fights on the frontlines with Everyone, not sitting in shadows when Whitebeard is destroying Navy HQ

2. Gorosei and Holy Knights also join the front lines and don’t sit around with their thumbs up their asses

3. The WG uses their super weapons readily. Meaning they actually use that Death laser from Vegapunk that destroyed Lulucia on actual important targets, for example Kamabaka. Why the fuck haven’t they destroyed Kamabaka? They are idiots. Peak World Government actually does in fact target places like this.

4. The Seraphims are at their Peak. It’s yet to be determined if the Seraphims will get aged up, or if there’s a back door that Vegapunk created to control them. Peak Seraphims HAVE NO Back door and are at Peak power, whether that means Aged up.

5. the Admirals are competent. Akainu isn’t sitting behind a desk, Fujitora isn’t Betraying the government all day. Greenbull isn’t a bitch who runs away from Wi-Fi CoC.

6. The Warlords have not been abolished (this was pure incompetence) and they actually function as intended. (As in Mihawk, Boa, Jimbei, Crocodile, Doflamingo, Moria, Kuma and ALL THEIR RESPECTIVE CREWS all obey the commands of the government)

(in case you missed it, both the warlords and Seraphims are active at the same time for the government here)

7. All the cipher-polls are fighting on the frontlines unlike in Marineford where none of them participated

8. all the marines fall in line, This includes Sengoku, Garp and Sword. They all fight for the Government

9. All the secret Armies of the government also join the frontlines. In case you’ve forgotten we have seen two different Armies that the WG secretly controls. The army that destroyed Law’s island and the army that was building the Bridge with slaves where Robin went. All the secret armies around the world the WG is funding all join. Let’s include the Impel Down jailers here

10. All the allied nations of the WG join their side and give up soldiers and ships and food and bases for this war.

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This leaves The Revolutionary army which includes Vegapunk and Stussy, the pirates (except the original 7 warlords), the underworld brokers and the Unaffiliated nations of world. Let’s also give Luffy, Shirahoshi as Poseidon

Can the rest of these guys Defeat PEAK WG? What combination of the rest of these guys can defeat?

if there aren’t able to win, let’s go back in time and give them dead pirates like rocks, Roger, Kaido, big mom and Whitebeard to fight for the opposition.
 
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Veku

Flamboyant
#7
Probably no combination of alive- characters.
Wg has it all, quality and quantity- top tiers are like nuclear weapons and they have like 2-4x? more than the opposing faction.
Like take a look at the top tiers alone:
Imu*
Gorossei*
Garling*
7 Prime Seraphim
Akainu
Kizaru
Fujitora
Greenbull
Old Garp
Old Sengoku
Old Kong*



Maybe if you add:
- Xebec and his crewmember
- Beast Pirates
- Whitebeard Pirates ( Ace and Oden included)
- Big Mom Pirates
- Shiki's crew

To:
- Strawhats
- All Worst Gen crews
- Revolutationary army
- Blackbeard Pirates (Aokiji included)
- Grandfleet
- Vegapunk and his tech- army/units?
- Red Hair Pirates
- Dressrosa
- Alabasta
- Fishmen Island
- Elbaph?
- Zou
- Wano
- All of the other allies, like the from East Blue, Skypians, From Water 7 etc
- All the other Pirate crews
- Enel and his priests


And even then I doub't they stand a chance.
 
#9
Probably no combination of alive- characters.
Wg has it all, quality and quantity- top tiers are like nuclear weapons and they have like 2-4x? more than the opposing faction.
Like take a look at the top tiers alone:
Imu*
Gorossei*
Garling*
7 Prime Seraphim
Akainu
Kizaru
Fujitora
Greenbull
Old Garp
Old Sengoku
Old Kong*



Maybe if you add:
- Xebec and his crewmember
- Beast Pirates
- Whitebeard Pirates ( Ace and Oden included)
- Big Mom Pirates
- Shiki's crew

To:
- Strawhats
- All Worst Gen crews
- Revolutationary army
- Blackbeard Pirates (Aokiji included)
- Grandfleet
- Vegapunk and his tech- army/units?
- Red Hair Pirates
- Dressrosa
- Alabasta
- Fishmen Island
- Elbaph?
- Zou
- Wano
- All of the other allies, like the from East Blue, Skypians, From Water 7 etc
- All the other Pirate crews
- Enel and his priests


And even then I doub't they stand a chance.
Don’t forget I’m giving the WG all the 7 original warlords but this time the warlords follow orders and they have all their individual crews helping

so All of Moriah’s zombies and perona

the entire doffy family

the entire Kuja pirates

baroque works (but with Current Crocodile and current Daz bones)

the entire sun pirates
 
#10
Well if we remove all the PIS and plot restriction then...

1. No-plot-restriction Vegapunk (having all the knowledge in the world) creates super computer in his brain to override and take control of Mother Flame, Pluton, Seraphims, and then proceeds to convert all Marine factories to mass-produce Pluton clones and Mother Flame clones, mass-produce Gorosei and Holy Knights Seraphim, also Prime Roger Seraphim and Prime Xebec Seraphim who obeyed Vegapunk unconditionally.

2. While Gorosei fight against Vegapunk-Created Gorosei Seraphim until critical condition of neardeath, Law swaps Gorosei soul with frogs and critters.

3. Shanks comes to Luffy and escort him to unlock One Piece. Using that, Luffy creates whatever final powerup being needed for Luffy to become the Ultimate Toonforce Chosen One Will of Djon Djones Dedor Demelianenko Dorge Daint Dierre Dhabib Durmagomedop, being the final authority of energy and law of physics in One Piece Verse without plot restricting his freedom. Luffy defeats Imu, and everything else becomes irrelevant.
 
#11
Well if we remove all the PIS and plot restriction then...

1. No-plot-restriction Vegapunk (having all the knowledge in the world) creates super computer in his brain to override and take control of Mother Flame, Pluton, Seraphims, and then proceeds to convert all Marine factories to mass-produce Pluton clones and Mother Flame clones, mass-produce Gorosei and Holy Knights Seraphim, also Prime Roger Seraphim and Prime Xebec Seraphim who obeyed Vegapunk unconditionally.

2. While Gorosei fight against Vegapunk-Created Gorosei Seraphim until critical condition of neardeath, Law swaps Gorosei soul with frogs and critters.

3. Shanks comes to Luffy and escort him to unlock One Piece. Using that, Luffy creates whatever final powerup being needed for Luffy to become the Ultimate Toonforce Chosen One Will of Djon Djones Dedor Demelianenko Dorge Daint Dierre Dhabib Durmagomedop, being the final authority of energy and law of physics in One Piece Verse without plot restricting his freedom. Luffy defeats Imu, and everything else becomes irrelevant.
you’re exaggerating Vegapunk because remember he’s simply copying Ancient kingdom tech… as far as we can tell, Vegapunk has never made anything that the ancient kingdom couldn’t make

so Peak Vegapunk is simply Ancient kingdom level… As in Peak Vegapunk is the Vegapunk who can make the eternal flame the ancient kingdom used… that’s the level he maxes out on because we have not been led to believe he can go above ancient kingdom stuff

and as far as we can tell, The ancient kingdom maxes out on Ancient weapons. That’s the strongest thing the ancient kingdom has ever made

So three things
1. Vegapunk requires materials and Time to create even things he actually does know how to create. He needed 20 years for a “failed” Dragon DF. He says that even now he would still need as much time and as many resources. So no, Vegapunk would NOT randomly start spamming Plutons without time and materials… And we have no idea how much is needed to make even one pluton

2. Vegapunk isn’t infinitely smart and infinitely able to make infinite shit. He ain’t Rick Sanchez. He has a directly stated limit, the ancient kingdom. And if the ancient kingdom can’t create super computers that hack whatever random shit, then Vegapunk can’t create it. Because again, he’s stated it himself that he is inferior to the ancient kingdom so we ain’t randomly giving him Above ancient kingdom level abilities

3. Imu is supposedly from said ancient kingdom so it would be hard to catch Imu by surprise using ancient kingdom tech that Imu already knows about
 
#15
Peak World Government doesn’t exist since the World government are a bunch of incompetent idiots. And they have to be idiots so the Good guys can win.

But let’s assume such a concept as “Peak World Government” could exist, what are the level of forces that can defeat them?

Peak World Government is

1. Imu actually fights on the frontlines with Everyone, not sitting in shadows when Whitebeard is destroying Navy HQ

2. Gorosei and Holy Knights also join the front lines and don’t sit around with their thumbs up their asses

3. The WG uses their super weapons readily. Meaning they actually use that Death laser from Vegapunk that destroyed Lulucia on actual important targets, for example Kamabaka. Why the fuck haven’t they destroyed Kamabaka? They are idiots. Peak World Government actually does in fact target places like this.

4. The Seraphims are at their Peak. It’s yet to be determined if the Seraphims will get aged up, or if there’s a back door that Vegapunk created to control them. Peak Seraphims HAVE NO Back door and are at Peak power, whether that means Aged up.

5. the Admirals are competent. Akainu isn’t sitting behind a desk, Fujitora isn’t Betraying the government all day. Greenbull isn’t a bitch who runs away from Wi-Fi CoC.

6. The Warlords have not been abolished (this was pure incompetence) and they actually function as intended. (As in Mihawk, Boa, Jimbei, Crocodile, Doflamingo, Moria, Kuma and ALL THEIR RESPECTIVE CREWS all obey the commands of the government)

(in case you missed it, both the warlords and Seraphims are active at the same time for the government here)

7. All the cipher-polls are fighting on the frontlines unlike in Marineford where none of them participated

8. all the marines fall in line, This includes Sengoku, Garp and Sword. They all fight for the Government

9. All the secret Armies of the government also join the frontlines. In case you’ve forgotten we have seen two different Armies that the WG secretly controls. The army that destroyed Law’s island and the army that was building the Bridge with slaves where Robin went. All the secret armies around the world the WG is funding all join. Let’s include the Impel Down jailers here

10. All the allied nations of the WG join their side and give up soldiers and ships and food and bases for this war.

______________________________________________

This leaves The Revolutionary army which includes Vegapunk and Stussy, the pirates (except the original 7 warlords), the underworld brokers and the Unaffiliated nations of world. Let’s also give Luffy, Shirahoshi as Poseidon

Can the rest of these guys Defeat PEAK WG? What combination of the rest of these guys can defeat?

if there aren’t able to win, let’s go back in time and give them dead pirates like rocks, Roger, Kaido, big mom and Whitebeard to fight for the opposition.
Don't underestimate shirahoshi. She can command all sea king to cause a world wide tsunami. That's the true power of the ancient weapon is.
 
#19
There wouldn't be a World Government if Imu fought on the frontlines. The World Government exists under the pretense that CD are special due to being descendants of the ones who created the modern world, and there is no 1 King who rules above all.

A lot of the things you stated aren't PIS or incompetency, it's literally related to character motivations and storylines.

What you're making is not the World Government, but a pirate crew with Imu as the captain everyone looks up to.

You're also implying the World Government is "bad guys"... When the story tells over and over, it's a gray faction.
 
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