Speculations Who do you think has advanced haki?

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Omaiwaa

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she could sense "voices" on Upper Yard even when she was still far away from the island.
thats about equal to Enel range which was further augmented by his DF.

Aiza has shown the longest range CoO in the series. if that is not advanced then idk what is.
That arc was so long ago i vaguely remember 😅. But I reckon there is another type of advanced observation haki which is more centred around sensing as opposed to precognition so maybe!

That feat of hers could also be linked to the voice of all things? Though that's probably less likely as so far only prominent Characters in the story have that ability
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Every top tier. Some high tiers as well. I mean even Sentomaru and Hancock's sisters have it.
When you say every top tier do you mean everytop tier has all advanced haki types or at least 1 advanced haki type?
 
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there certainly are several different aspects to CoO.
sensing intent and FS are both precognitive.
sensing someones/somethings presence or their emotions are observative.

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I like to imagine that CoO has another thing going that is focus or concentration.
this form needs to be directed at someone or something specifically, but works sort of like a byakugan as it is able to analyze your opponent. not just the strength, but also his movements. if is very hard or next to impossible to trick a user while under their focus.
whats makes that better than FS? it does not rely on intent. you react to what is happening and not to what may happen (as 2 FS users would cancel each other out pretty much).
 
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stealthblack

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Shanks or dragon. Or both


Before shanks will die he will train luffy. This îs the thing that will see luffy apart from his enemies, his advanced coc that will allow him to control the environment
 
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Do we know the difference between advanced COA and flysing slashes? Zoro was able to air-slash Monet, and i don't think he had advanced COA at that point :believe:
 
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ardym

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Shanks or dragon. Or both


Before shanks will die he will train luffy. This îs the thing that will see luffy apart from his enemies, his advanced coc that will allow him to control the environment
doubt that Luffy already has two master Reyleigh (obi wan kenobi) and Hiyo (Yoda), doubt he will get an extra trainer if anything they will have a friendly haki clash :D
 
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Omaiwaa

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Hancock has adcoa not just barrier
Sabo has adcoa
Sentomaru has barrier , wont be shocked if he has adcoa
Lucci will have adcoa
Benn will have adcoa and great CoO (not fs)

Shanks has FS and adcoa
Mihawk might have adcoa
Kuzan has FS or unlocked it

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Mihawk definitely has it i think. To be equals with Shanks and the WSS he must have adcoa surely?
 
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stealthblack

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doubt that Luffy already has two master Reyleigh (obi wan kenobi) and Hiyo (Yoda), doubt he will get an extra trainer if anything they will have a friendly haki clash :D
He could be Like katakuri that trained luffy fighting him. Advanced coo
 
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Omaiwaa

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Do we know the difference between advanced COA and flysing slashes? Zoro was able to air-slash Monet, and i don't think he had advanced COA at that point :believe:
I'm pretty sure flying slashes can be done *without*haki, as zoro cut monet in half with a flying slash without actually killing her? Also we see projectile slashes similar to that preskip by characters without haki
 
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i think Shanks has it, which he learned from Rayleigh directly, or better yet from seeing Ray's in action and then Shanks trained and discover his own Adv-CoA by his own. To contend this long as fellow Emperors with BM and Kaidou's physical monstrosity, he should have some things that bypass durability, and Adv-CoA might be one of them.
 
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Omaiwaa

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i think Shanks has it, which he learned from Rayleigh directly, or better yet from seeing Ray's in action and then Shanks trained and discover his own Adv-CoA by his own. To contend this long as fellow Emperors with BM and Kaidou's physical monstrosity, he should have some things that bypass durability, and Adv-CoA might be one of them.
Yeah defo, you reckon Kaido & BM have adv haki?
 
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Oda would never give FS to Akainu Or Kizaru. Aokiji however has it.

All the Admirals have Barrier/Airshield/Emission Advanced Armament Level 1 Haki. As well as Garp, Rayleigh, Luffy l, Beckman and Boa sister have it.

As for Internal distruction advanced armament haki level 2, only Garp from the marines has it, Rayleigh, Shanks and Roger, Luffy have it.
coming from oda himself
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so far confirmed
2nd level
hyo sentomaru

3rd level
ray luffy wb roger.
Thi I bet it becomes more common amongst top tiers.
 
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Yeah defo, you reckon Kaido & BM have adv haki?
seeing how Yonkou compete with each other, i see that Kaidou and BM don't have advanced haki lvl 2 (haki technique to destroy an object from the inside), but they have larger reserve of haki than Shanks, and advanced lvl 1 (barrier haki that admirals, sentoumaru, hyogoro has, possibly making black blade that Mihawk has)
 
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Omaiwaa

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seeing how Yonkou compete with each other, i see that Kaidou and BM don't have advanced haki lvl 2 (haki technique to destroy an object from the inside), but they have larger reserve of haki than Shanks, and advanced lvl 1 (barrier haki that admirals, sentoumaru, hyogoro has, possibly making black blade that Mihawk has)
I disagree! For example, Big Mom is naturally really strong even without haki, so someone like her probably wouldn't have felt the need to train their haki to a point where it was advanced?

On the contrary characters like Shanks weren't born monsters like BM, Kaido etc. so to get to their level would have to gain advanced haki to match their natural durability/offence don't you think?
I thought the same thing! I reckon BM & Kaido at most have 1 type of advanced armament but Shanks to compensate for not being as naturally strong has all types of advanced haki
 
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wordyworm

#38
Shanks has all three advanced. He's a monster without a DF so he has to have something insane.

she could sense "voices" on Upper Yard even when she was still far away from the island.
thats about equal to Enel range which was further augmented by his DF.

Aiza has shown the longest range CoO in the series. if that is not advanced then idk what is.
Yes! I always thought Aisa got ignored. Wouldn't be surprised if we see her again (not as a fighter though, since her living in peace was kinda the entire point...)
 
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Do we know the difference between advanced COA and flysing slashes? Zoro was able to air-slash Monet, and i don't think he had advanced COA at that point :believe:
Zoro clearly has control over flow was well as powerful hardening and the ability to use Haki powered slashes.


IS that advanced? I don't know but there aren't many characters who we see that fully Harden their swords. It is clearly a big haki feat because in order to do that you need to have control over haki flow. There are many powerful characters who, despite how strong they are, have never blackened a sword such as Law and Killer.

However if we are specifically talking about haki barriers or haki internal destruction, Zoro has not shown any of these abilities. I don't care what he said to Hyouzo, he could have done that with normal haki or just his strength alone. If he had barrier, he would be able to clash with others without his sword touching theirs. So far, he is yet to show this ability.
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I think CoA haki is a branch. You can either master flow, which will allow you to gain access to barrier and internal destruction, lIke Roger and Rayleigh.

Or you can master hardening, which will give you access to the black blade aka permanent haki.

This is why Roger, for as strong as he was, didn't have a black blade, and why Mihawk has yet to show barrier despite having extremely powerful CoA.
 
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wordyworm

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Zoro clearly has control over flow was well as powerful hardening and the ability to use Haki powered slashes.


IS that advanced? I don't know but there aren't many characters who we see that fully Harden their swords. It is clearly a big haki feat because in order to do that you need to have control over haki flow. There are many powerful characters who, despite how strong they are, have never blackened a sword such as Law and Killer.

However if we are specifically talking about haki barriers or haki internal destruction, Zoro has not shown any of these abilities. I don't care what he said to Hyouzo, he could have done that with normal haki or just his strength alone. If he had barrier, he would be able to clash with others without his sword touching theirs. So far, he is yet to show this ability.
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I think CoA haki is a branch. You can either master flow, which will allow you to gain access to barrier and internal destruction, lIke Roger and Rayleigh.

Or you can master hardening, which will give you access to the black blade aka permanent haki.

This is why Roger, for as strong as he was, didn't have a black blade, and why Mihawk has yet to show barrier despite having extremely powerful CoA.
Can we define the terms a little more?
Here's where I am on CoA from weak to strong:
  • strengthen one's own attacks; nullify DFs; "hit the true body," etc.
  • hardening one's own body (is this what people mean by barriers?)
  • hardening one's own weapon (which requires greater control of flow) --> emitting haki
  • emitting haki through a weapon (Mihawk's iceberg slash)
  • emitting haki without a weapon (Ray's elephant attack; Sentomaru)
  • internal destruction-- emitting haki at a distance without a weapon/focusing haki from a distance
So to me, Enma is a test of Zoro's ability to control haki in a unique way. Whereas swords like Yoru might be capable of absorbing haki from the user, Enma is actually HUNGRY for it. Once he learns to control it, Zoro will have control of the flow of haki in a way that will allow him to project it at the highest levels.

I admit that mijo Mihawk hasn't shown all of the levels, but I still think can be assumed to have the highest level of CoA as he's the highest level of named weapon user.

I also think that "aura" or "presence" is related to high levels of CoA. Shanks, Mihawk, WB, -- the sort of swagger that makes people pass out is another aspect of extremely high levels of CoA
 
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