Powers & Abilities Who Else Gonna Get CoC/ACoC?

[StocksInMihawk]

I kinda agree if you put it that way. Does Crocodile have CoC?

He definitely have the traits of a Conqueror, so I wouldn't say no

 

[Roo]

I can’t see Low getting it

You couldn’t see Gaban nor Sanji having it so what makes you think we care what you can or can’t see lmao

 

[mly90]

You couldn’t see Gaban nor Sanji having it so what makes you think we care what you can or can’t see lmao

Show me where i have said Sanji or Gaban would never have it

 

[Veku]

Confident:
- Akainu
- Aokiji
- Fujitora
- Smoker
- Coby
- Dragon
- Mihawk
- Sabo
- Teach

Should have it, but might not show it
- Momonuske
- Crocodile
- Kuma (If he wasn't lobotomized)
- Law
- Ben Beckman
- Enel
- Hajrudin

Possible, but uncertain:
- Kizaru
- Moria
- Weevil
- Nami
- Franky
- Robin
- Shiryu
- Shamrock
- Garling

Nah:
- Greenbull
- Lucci
- Magellan
- Buggy

 

[John Akainu]

Not sure why ppl are mentioning Law. He doesn't have the mentality of a conqueror.

Zoro fans used the same argument for Sanji btw.

 

[Doggo]

Show me where i have said Sanji or Gaban would never have it

Sanji, Law and Sabo are the 3rd wheel trio.

They will all have it.

 

[mly90]

Sanji, Law and Sabo are the 3rd wheel trio.

They will all have it.

Sabo and Sanji sure but Low isn’t getting it. Loda sealed his fate when he made him a supreme df merchant that’s worth 5b

 

[Doggo]

Sabo and Sanji sure but Low isn’t getting it. Loda sealed his fate when he made him a supreme df merchant that’s worth 5b

He's getting it.
And he deserves it more than Midd
It is what it is.

 

[Cruxroux]

Sabo and Sanji sure but Low isn’t getting it. Loda sealed his fate when he made him a supreme df merchant that’s worth 5b

To this date I still don't understand how some elements are coated in conqueror. Fujitora Gravity? Whitebeard viberations? Bigmom elemental attacks? Law viberations attacks.
These powers simply don't add up.
They might use it seperately but that's not making them powerful but versatile. Zoan's are lucky in this regard.

 

[Rumble]

Probably has it
- Dragon

Good guess has it
- Garling

Will probably awaken
- Sabo
- Law
- Koby

 

[Roo]

Show me where i have said Sanji or Gaban would never have it

doesn’t matter, the same logic used against Sanji is deployed against Law and it’s all retarded

don’t deploy the same tactics if you don’t want to lumped with the mouthbreathers who want to gatekeep a fictional ability

 

[NAMELESS]

Ussop, Law, Sabo, Koby, Smoker, Akainu and maybe Katakuri, Doffy and Crocodile make a comeback with ACOC.

 

[mly90]

don’t deploy the same tactics if you don’t want to lumped with the mouthbreathers who want to gatekeep a fictional ability

 

[NAMELESS]

Probably has it
- Dragon

Good guess has it
- Garling

Will probably awaken
- Sabo
- Law
- Koby

Didn't Ivankov confirm him as a COC user in Impel Down.

 

[Jika]

Yes he does.. Sacrificing your own lifespan, going above and beyond is a key quality of a Conqueror.. He's done that twice already..

What has Sanji done that Law hasn’t

Zoro fans used the same argument for Sanji btw.

He's getting it.
And he deserves it more than Midd
It is what it is.

Sacrificing lifespan doesn't make someone a conqueror. Its kingly ambition, "Will".

Look at laws reaction after the fight vs Big mom, this says everything.

After both them are completely exhausted. Law pretty much brushes off the idea of going to fight Kaido. While on the other hand Kidd is willing to continue fighting. Would kidd have died if he got to fight kaido? Yes probably. But that is the "Will" of a Conqueror.

Admittedly, there are aspects of dressrosa, that support law being a conqueror, but i wouldnt say its been a consistent theme since then^.


And for those of you claiming Kidd doesn't deserve it, he deserves it more than any other strawhat Or any in the worst generation. One incident to sum this up is when Kaido first landed.

Kaido offered them a chance to join his crew and Kidd/Killer refused. They decided at the point to fight to the death, which obviously meant death vs Kaido. They accepted those odds. Hawkins himself believed kidd was going to die, obviously due to facing kaido, but also because he knew kidd/killer would never give up. Facing someone as strong as Kaido at that time in the story and deciding to fight to the death, is one of the best examples in the ENTIRE story of a Conqueror's will. Keep in mind who the strawhats were fighting at the time.

Kaido then recognizes how strong his will is an decides to spare him, same thing happens with Luffy in parallel.

Later on eventually while escaping Udon prison Luffy asks if Kidd wants to team up and refuses. Later on they meet up coincidence while attempting to go fight kaido. Kidd was going to fight kaido without Luffy.

Sanji shouldn't get it, but it seems like its in the stars now. Have a feeling we'll see BB getting it as well. Completely undeserved but that is the path Oda wants to take now.

 

[Roo]

While on the other hand Kidd is willing to continue fighting. Would kidd have died if he got to fight kaido? Yes probably. But that is the "Will" of a Conqueror.

Yet he didn't, both of them were just going to get on the way of Luffy.

Admittedly, there are aspects of dressrosa, that support law being a conqueror, but i wouldnt say its been a consistent theme since then^.

It's been a consistent theme with Law, just below everything you stated about Kid applied to Law in DR and Wano.

Kaido offered them a chance to join his crew and Kidd/Killer refused. They decided at the point to fight to the death, which obviously meant death vs Kaido. They accepted those odds. Hawkins himself believed kidd was going to die, obviously due to facing kaido, but also because he knew kidd/killer would never give up. Facing someone as strong as Kaido at that time in the story and deciding to fight to the death, is one of the best examples in the ENTIRE story of a Conqueror's will. Keep in mind who the strawhats were fighting at the time.

Congrats, Law did the same

 

[park_min young]

Imagine thinking Law won’t get it when he has shown more willpower than anybody.

Him picking his battles to avoid casualties just means that he’s smart af like Whitebeard. When it comes to dire situations like his friends caught in trouble, he’d be the first in line to step up. He even went to Marinford to save an acquaintance like Condom lol.

 

[Jika]

Yet he didn't, both of them were just going to get on the way of Luffy.

The fact, that he reacted that says more than enough. A conqueror would never react that way lol. Can you imagine Rocks, Luffy, roger, wb reacting that way? Lol.

It's been a consistent theme with Law, just below everything you stated about Kid applied to Law in DR and Wano.

It obviously hasn't. The example is just provided was well after dressrosa.

While fighting doflamingo do you remember when Law was pinned down?

Law at the point accepted his death and essentially decided it would be okay if luffy was able to avenge himself even if he died. That isnt the reaction of a Conqueror, Luffy/kidd would have been fighting until the last breath. Law isnt that guy.

When Law's plan was foiled/discovered by doflamingo, what was his reaction to accept defeat/plan an escape. What would kidd have done?

During dressrosa we learn Law definitely has some backup plans. And even at some point he even sends his crew away accepting defeat! A conqueror would never accept defeat, even in ungodly odds.

As stupid as it sounds when Kidd/Luffy first met and Kaido, in that moment they believed they could beat Kaido. Thats what makes them conquerors. Undying will.

Kidd didnt even have a plan when Kaido landed obviously, and simply decided to fight until the end, with no fear of losing.

Law even had a plan before dressrosa and once it was spoiled, he accepted the loss and told his crew not to join him! That it isnt a Conqueror's.

Even needed some assistance from Robin after realizing the plan was spoiled. A true conqueror would never need assurance from anyone else, thats how strong their self belief is. Could you imagine kidd being in this situation? Never.

Even look at luffy in Wano, after they found Luffy, he just decided to go head to head with Kaido. Law would never.

Congrats, Law did the same

You really think if Kaido landed on top of Law he was going to fight to the death?


And at the end of the day Law simply doesn't have conqueroring will. We know Luffy and Kidd want to become king of the pirates...and to reach that goal you have to conqueror. What will does Law have? What does Law want to conqueror?

Law accepted losing, a conqueror would never accept the idea of losing.

 

[Crow]

Law accepted losing, a conqueror would never accept the idea of losing.

The only impressive thing about Kidd. He had balls of steel.

 

[Roo]

The fact, that he reacted that says more than enough. A conqueror would never react that way lol. Can you imagine Rocks, Luffy, roger, wb reacting that way? Lol.

A conqueror would never react that way?

Spoiler

Law at the point accepted his death and essentially decided it would be okay if luffy was able to avenge himself even if he died. That isnt the reaction of a Conqueror, Luffy/kidd would have been fighting until the last breath. Law isnt that guy.

We are literally shown Law refusing to abandon Luffy and stating that he rather die by his side.

Spoiler

When Law's plan was foiled/discovered by doflamingo, what was his reaction to accept defeat/plan an escape. What would kidd have done?

Probably fight Doflamingo 1v1, just like Law did...

Spoiler

During dressrosa we learn Law definitely has some backup plans. And even at some point he even sends his crew away accepting defeat! A conqueror would never accept defeat, even in ungodly odds.

corny ass platitudes

As stupid as it sounds when Kidd/Luffy first met and Kaido, in that moment they believed they could beat Kaido. Thats what makes them conquerors. Undying will.



Kidd didnt even have a plan when Kaido landed obviously, and simply decided to fight until the end, with no fear of losing.

Being a retard isn't a requirement for having CoC. WB has had multiple instances where he knew he'd lose a fight/war, so did Shanks.

Law even had a plan before dressrosa and once it was spoiled, he accepted the loss and told his crew not to join him! That it isnt a Conqueror's.

Even needed some assistance from Robin after realizing the plan was spoiled. A true conqueror would never need assurance from anyone else, thats how strong their self belief is. Could you imagine kidd being in this situation? Never.

Even look at luffy in Wano, after they found Luffy, he just decided to go head to head with Kaido. Law would never.


You really think if Kaido landed on top of Law he was going to fight to the death?

Rocks literally had an entire plot to take on Imu, and he even ran away from Imu when he first met him LMAO.

And at the end of the day Law simply doesn't have conqueroring will. We know Luffy and Kidd want to become king of the pirates...and to reach that goal you have to conqueror. What will does Law have? What does Law want to conqueror?

Law accepted losing, a conqueror would never accept the idea of losing.

Spoiler

I'd suggest actually reading one piece and tumbrl Kidd fanfics for once