Speculations Who fought who in god valley?

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Sasaki Kojirō

#2
Kaidou obtained his Devil Fruit on the same day as the incident. I wonder if it was before, during the incident, or after the incident (at the end of the fights).

If the answer to this is the first possibility, that he obtained it on the same day as the incident but before the fight started, it means that Kaidou was already very strong even though he was only 21 years old.

With that said, it is likely that he faced a formidable figure.
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

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#8
I think Garling and a few other future Holy Knights fought alongside Roger and Garp.

Kaido described Whitebeard as soft, so I kinda get the impression that Whitebeard chose to betray the Rocks at some point during the fight.

Roger vs Xebec
Garp vs WB
Rayleigh vs Young Kaido
Sengoku vs Big Mom
Scopper vs Shiki
I don't think Sengoku was there. But if he was, I think he'd fight Shiki. The two seemed to be rivals, I think Sengoku said Shiki was his to fight.
 

Warchief Sanji D Goat

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Gaban is not even able to defeat Big Mom alone, adding Kaidou here would only make Gaban's already impossible victory against Big Mom twice as impossible.
It depends on where you place Gaban and Big Mom tbh.

I have Gaban ~ Oden (mid top tier), the anime shows their clash as equals.

Rocks Big Mom is low or mid top tier. Don't think Rocks Kaido was a top tier imo, I think he is YC1/YC1+ at best.

Kaido become a top tier during King flashback.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#12
It depends on where you place Gaban and Big Mom tbh.

I have Gaban ~ Oden (mid top tier), the anime shows their clash as equals.

Rocks Big Mom is low or mid top tier. Don't think Rocks Kaido was a top tier imo, I think he is YC1/YC1+ at best.

Kaido become a top tier during King flashback.
It depends on where you place Gaban and Big Mom tbh.
We have different perspectives then. I don't think Big Mom would face Gaban, as I believe she is much more aligned with Roger, Whitebeard, and Garp than with Gaban. She shares a line of rivalry with them due to being from the same generation.
I have Gaban ~ Oden (mid top tier), the anime shows their clash as equals.
The confrontation between Oden and Gaban in the manga never happened, and they never exchanged a single blow. We saw Roger's concern in not allowing any harm to come to his men (Rayleigh and Gaban) in the manga when facing Oden. The manga hinted that Oden would face Rayleigh and Gaban in a 1 vs 2 battle.
Rocks Big Mom is low or mid top tier.
Anything but at the peak of their powers, Sengoku himself states that both Kaidou and Big Mom became stronger after God Valley.
Don't think Rocks Kaido was a top tier imo, I think he is YC1/YC1+ at best.
Scaling Kaidou is very difficult; it is highly likely that he was already born at the level of a low top-tier.
 
#17
One thing’s for sure, we can say the Roger and Garp vs Rocks, Whitebeard, BM and Kaido image is bullshit after the ones we got of the RA vs Admirals.

I‘m not sure we’ll ever learn any more than Roger and Garp fought Xebec.
 
#19
One thing’s for sure, we can say the Roger and Garp vs Rocks, Whitebeard, BM and Kaido image is bullshit after the ones we got of the RA vs Admirals.

I‘m not sure we’ll ever learn any more than Roger and Garp fought Xebec.
Regardless of the details I put both of them at their prime to be superior to him
 
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CensoredbyWG

#20
We are yet to know who was YC2 in xebec crew, whether it was big mom or shiki so its hard to say, i'm gonna take a guess and say that she was indeed the third strongest, so:

Roger: xebec
Garling: WB
Garp: big mom(she mentioned luffys "monkey" surname on WCI, could be about dragon tho)
Sengoku: shiki
Rayleigh: kaido(kaido was just an aprentice at the time)
 
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