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Who has a better chance to have CoC? Sanji or Law?

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#23
I think Law is important because of his special DF which is called Ultimate DF, as well as because of Law's connection to Luffy, and some Luffy parallels like Bepo being on Law's wanted poster same way Usopp was in Luffy's, his crew is also unique enough to have Strawhat plot powerup as we see from Bepo using Chopper's drug, and Law is also a D.
That's one of the reasons I don't see him getting CoC. He already has a very unique DF that's worth 5 billion and he doesn't need to actually harm his target to cut them, so the regen issue isn't really one for him. Granted, he can't use "Amputate" on characters whose haki is too powerful, as it was the case against Kaido and BM, but I don't think he'll have to take down such a powerful menace. Best-case scenario, he's gonna beat an HK, and I doubt their haki is too strong for Law to need CoC against them.

Law coming back because of his ability to grant eternal life doesn't have to mean he'll need CoC. Those two things are unrelated.

Ace and Roger? Xebec?
I was talking about characters who are alive, but that's a false equivalence regardless.
Roger was the PK, Ace was Luffy's adoptive brother and the Pirate King's son, Xebec is BB's parallel, had 3 Yonko working for him, almost ruled over the world and it took both Garp and Roger to take him down. How does someone like Law compare to any of them in terms of importance and impact on the story?

People forget Law is a D.
Huh? I didn't forget he's a D, that's the very first thing I mentioned and one of the reasons I don't think he'll get CoC.
 
#27
I was talking about characters who are alive, but that's a false equivalence regardless.
Roger was the PK, Ace was Luffy's adoptive brother and the Pirate King's son, Xebec is BB's parallel, had 3 Yonko working for him, almost ruled over the world and it took both Garp and Roger to take him down. How does someone like Law compare to any of them in terms of importance and impact on the story?
Narratively speaking?

Luffy’s closest pirate ally
The only D member who cares about his name(as far we know)
The guys who’s story introduced us to the D vs CD conflict

Literally every character mentioned here is important.. except Law according to you?


Don’t you find it that odd? Oda went out of his way to point out all important D members and according to you threw Law in there for the lols?

And this isn’t even all D members alive considering we know Saul was watching this
 
#28
That's one of the reasons I don't see him getting CoC. He already has a very unique DF that's worth 5 billion and he doesn't need to actually harm his target to cut them, so the regen issue isn't really one for him. Granted, he can't use "Amputate" on characters whose haki is too powerful, as it was the case against Kaido and BM, but I don't think he'll have to take down such a powerful menace. Best-case scenario, he's gonna beat an HK, and I doubt their haki is too strong for Law to need CoC against them.

Law coming back because of his ability to grant eternal life doesn't have to mean he'll need CoC. Those two things are unrelated.


I was talking about characters who are alive, but that's a false equivalence regardless.
Roger was the PK, Ace was Luffy's adoptive brother and the Pirate King's son, Xebec is BB's parallel, had 3 Yonko working for him, almost ruled over the world and it took both Garp and Roger to take him down. How does someone like Law compare to any of them in terms of importance and impact on the story?


Huh? I didn't forget he's a D, that's the very first thing I mentioned and one of the reasons I don't think he'll get CoC.
Also that means in order to use that unique DF full potential, he needs CoC Haki as well.

I said before that Blackbeard probably also managed to control 2 DFs at the same time because of his CoC Haki, not only because of his unique body. I think it could be a combination of both unique body + CoC Haki.

Luffy also needed CoC Haki to use full potential of Nika, and even Zolo's special swords need CoC Haki to use its full potential.
 
#29
Narratively speaking?

Luffy’s closest pirate ally
The only D member who cares about his name(as far we know)
The guys who’s story introduced us to the D vs CD conflict

Literally every character mentioned here is important.. except Law according to you?


Don’t you find it that odd? Oda went out of his way to point out all important D members and according to you threw Law in there for the lols?

And this isn’t even all D members alive considering we know Saul was watching this
I never said he had not importance, you're oversimplyfing my stance for the sake of your rebuttal.

Also that means in order to use that unique DF full potential, he needs CoC Haki as well.

I said before that Blackbeard probably also managed to control 2 DFs at the same time because of his CoC Haki, not only because of his unique body. I think it could be a combination of both unique body + CoC Haki.

Luffy also needed CoC Haki to use full potential of Nika, and even Zolo's special swords need CoC Haki to use its full potential.
But that's my point, Luffy and Zoro needed it. I don't feel like Law does. He's not a main character, so I don't think he'll find himself in a situation where he'd really need it.

And yes, any DF user can go even a step further with CoC coating. Doesn't mean every single one of them is gonna get it. We don't even know if Law is gonna even survive the final war, considering his ability to grant eternal life is at the expense of his own life.
 
#30
I never said he had not importance, you're oversimplyfing my stance for the sake of your rebuttal.
“How does he compare”

you asked about his importance relative to the rest, I literally explained why and showed that Oda himself puts him near the rest.
 
#31
If your argument is true then Sanji has Kings haki too cause he survived Kamabakka without becoming an okama which also means he has kingly will to conquer atmosphere of islands, remember even Kings became okamas in Kamabakka.
True, it could be.

But his CoC potential might be limited because he become Okama for a while then he turned back to normal.



Law has a broken df so Oda can always use that to have him keep up so I would say Sanji has a better chance.
I believe in order to use full potential of that unique DF, Law might need CoC Haki.

Just like Luffy needed for Nika, and Blackbeard need for his own DFs.
 
#32
“How does he compare”

you asked about his importance relative to the rest, I literally explained why and showed that Oda himself puts him near the rest.
You explained why he's not irrelevant and important to some degree, which I never denied. But nothing you said makes him as important and influential as characters like Roger, Dragon, Ace or Xebec.

Besides, you kinda missed the point of Vegapunk's statement. He wasn't specifically talking about Ds in general here, he said there's one guy among them who's particularly important, referring to Luffy. So he actually singled out Luffy, as opposed to every single D member.



Do you expect someone like Sauro to do something crazy and be as relevant as Roger or Xebec?
 
#33
You explained why he's not irrelevant and important to some degree, which I never denied. But nothing you said makes him as important and influential as characters like Roger, Dragon, Ace or Xebec.
But he is important, and influential to a point where even in an SBS Oda said he was. You are acting like all the characters share the same weight when they don't. Roger is more important and influential than all the characters you mentioned by a mile. I could use the same vague metrics you use to discount Law to discount the rest.

Besides, you kinda missed the point of Vegapunk's statement. He wasn't specifically talking about Ds in general here, he said there's one guy among them who's particularly important, referring to Luffy. So he actually singled out Luffy, as opposed to every single D member.

Do you expect someone like Sauro to do something crazy and be as relevant as Roger or Xebec?
No, you missed the point. Oda showed us all important characters with the name D to remind us of them. Yes, Luffy amongst them is the next Joyboy, but the panel exist as a reminder to the viewer that the clan's relevance isn't lost. You are looking at this from a very surface level
 
#34
Besides, you kinda missed the point of Vegapunk's statement. He wasn't specifically talking about Ds in general here, he said there's one guy among them who's particularly important, referring to Luffy.
Most fans agree to the opposite: VP was warning the Ds that among them there is a likely impostor, singling out not Luffy, but BB (or, rather, his lineage).
 
#35
But he is important, and influential to a point where even in an SBS Oda said he was. You are acting like all the characters share the same weight when they don't. Roger is more important and influential than all the characters you mentioned by a mile. I could use the same vague metrics you use to discount Law to discount the rest.


No, you missed the point. Oda showed us all important characters with the name D to remind us of them. Yes, Luffy amongst them is the next Joyboy, but the panel exist as a reminder to the viewer that the clan's relevance isn't lost. You are looking at this from a very surface level
No, the point is that Vegapunk can technically be talking about any of them because he doesn't know the guy in question is Luffy, which is why other D members are shown or mentioned.

Most fans agree to the opposite: VP was warning the Ds that among them there is a likely impostor, singling out not Luffy, but BB (or, rather, his lineage).
Either way, he was singling out one of them and it's not Law.
 
#36
No, the point is that Vegapunk can technically be talking about any of them because he doesn't know the guy in question is Luffy, which is why other D members are shown or mentioned.
Again, you're taking it literally when i am talking about the point of drawing them for the readers. Oda has no reason to show the D members, hell he could've included Vivi and Saul. Instead he choose a specific group of them, which coincidentally it includes all the characters you mentioned...and Law. Your arbitrary distinction is just that, arbitrary.
 
#37
Again, you're taking it literally when i am talking about the point of drawing them for the readers. Oda has no reason to show the D members, hell he could've included Vivi and Saul. Instead he choose a specific group of them, which coincidentally it includes all the characters you mentioned...and Law. Your arbitrary distinction is just that, arbitrary.


I'm willing to bet. :kata:
 
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