Character Discussion Who is more relevant? Sanji or Nami?

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Not this is a hard "disagree" from me.
I don't think the character dreams are measured like this at all. They are all very personal dreams.
The Luffy/Sanji similarity is being about finding something "mythical", a "fantasy", some "special hidden thing somewhere in the world". That's like some old adventures movies about findings treasures, curses, lands, etc. Think "indiana jones", or games like "uncharted". Whether we, as an audience, perceive these dreams as "lame" or not, that's on us. Not what the story tries to sell.
And about the Usopp/Zoro comparison, being brave is not the same as being strong. While, more often than not, these concepts tend to walk together, they are each their own thing. Usopp will never be "strong" the same way characters like Zoro are. Which is why Oda >used to< invest more in his intelligence, strategy, and gave a lot of effort on moments where Usopp is faced with impossible odds but eventually decides to face them despite his fears. Zoro's dream is all about being the very best like no one ever was. *queue the pokemon opening song*

I didn't mean inferior as a bad connotation here more like we see similarity because Oda has been trying to parallel their dreams. Just Luffy and Zoro dreams gets more focus.

 

[Rayleigh22]

Nami is probably the most useless character in all of manga history so of course Sani is more relevant.

Brook also feels like he is unnecessary.

 

[[No Name]]

Luffy
Sanji/Zoro (wings, the two that luffy meets at sabaody)
Nami/Usopp
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Rest of the crew

Importance wise.

 

[Artorias]

Sanji
Nami after TS is nothing more than fanservice

 

[Gintoki]

Luffy didn't get stuck in an island even without nami's "navigation skills" even Jinbe can navigate the seas easily

You'll just need a crew with an above average brain to become a navigator lmao

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Basically just the title

One is a OG member, the other overshadows Nami for the longest now

For Oda it's Nami, fans are free to like whoever they want tho.

 

[115673]

But what did she trigger

Alabasta?! Pre-TS Nami was an important element to the story.

 

[Chrono]

Alabasta?! Pre-TS Nami was an important element to the story.

She did not trigger Alabasta lol

 

[115673]

She did not trigger Alabasta lol

She is the one that wanted to help Vivi in exchange for money.

 

[Chrono]

She is the one that wanted to help Vivi in exchange for money.

They wouldve helped her anyways once hearing her story.

 

[115673]

They wouldve helped her anyways once hearing her story.

Lol! And Oda decided to do it through Nami. Nami was even the one to bond most with Vivi.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Lol! And Oda decided to do it through Nami. Nami was even the one to bond most with Vivi.

I agree. Which is why I say you can definitely make the argument for pre timeksip Nami to be more important. It is interesting that this was mirrored post timeskip with Sanji and Kinemon kicking off the wano saga.

 

[115673]

I agree. Which is why I say you can definitely make the argument for pre timeksip Nami to be more important. It is interesting that this was mirrored post timeskip with Sanji and Kinemon kicking off the wano saga.

Fair enough. I agree. But I don't approve of Oda's decision to do this.

 

[Akuma_Law]

Why don't you just read Nami's text? She literally says who is more important

The fact that Nami is the one who came up with that name (twirly hat pirates) lol

Don’t turn this thread into slander of either characters

 

[yvg]

Nami is the most important member of the crew

 

[ZenZu]

And still her fanservice is more highlighted

How? There's maybe a couple fanservice scenes per arc. Is it the clothes she wears? She's been wearing skimpy clothes since pre timeskip, so that's not unique to post skip either.

 

[Akuma_Law]

bottom line is east blue gang are always the most relevant, and Oda loves these 4 in particular and it’s very obvious when you have a first look on the story up till now
he already had decided on their designs and characters even before he started serialising, and you can say he builded the story on their stories

 

[Finalbeta]

Nami is one of the ultimate saviours in the crew

 

[Chrono]

Zoro and Sanji will always be the most relevant.

Spoiler

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[Lor D. Coast]

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