Questions & Mysteries Who is ready for Admiral Koby?

moreha9685

moreha9685

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#201
#201
Luffy battles:
- IMU for freedom;
- BB for the means of creating the new world after IMU;
- Coby to decide if the new world should have borders and a central administrative power a la Marines or not.

They're all different facets of what OP is trying to say on governments, control, and utopias.
IMU has to be taken down because people aren't free under him, and the entire world will be destroyed otherwise.
BB has to be taken down because him getting the One Piece could lead to a future several times worse than the actual WG.

BB will likely help against IMU.
Coby will be an ally against BB.
Both IMU and BB are unnecessary evils that need to be dealt with.
Coby isn't. Coby is Luffy's other side of the "good guys" coin.

Luffy vs Coby, in the epilogue, is an ideological fight. You've taken down the dictator; you've prevented the eldritch monster from engulfing the world in eternal darkness. Now it's the dawn of a new world. Do we trust that people can govern themselves, or will selfish, power-hungry wannabe dictators always arise no matter what? And if so, shouldn't we have a policing force making sure this doesn't happen and that the weak aren't taken advantage of?
Luffy will embody an anarchistic POV, claiming that people can take care of themselves, that there will always also be someone who protects their nakama.
Coby, on the other hand, will want a "clean" Navy, actually focused on helping the people this time, without the CD bullshit.
I think, in the end Luffy will realize this, and will hand himself over to the new Navy to validate their ability to neutralize potential threats. Luffy's surrender will end the age of piracy, and signal the beginning of the One World Government under the banner of the sun.
 
Juanpiz

Juanpiz

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#202
#202
moreha9685 said:
Luffy battles:
- IMU for freedom;
- BB for the means of creating the new world after IMU;
- Coby to decide if the new world should have borders and a central administrative power a la Marines or not.

They're all different facets of what OP is trying to say on governments, control, and utopias.
IMU has to be taken down because people aren't free under him, and the entire world will be destroyed otherwise.
BB has to be taken down because him getting the One Piece could lead to a future several times worse than the actual WG.

BB will likely help against IMU.
Coby will be an ally against BB.
Both IMU and BB are unnecessary evils that need to be dealt with.
Coby isn't. Coby is Luffy's other side of the "good guys" coin.

Luffy vs Coby, in the epilogue, is an ideological fight. You've taken down the dictator; you've prevented the eldritch monster from engulfing the world in eternal darkness. Now it's the dawn of a new world. Do we trust that people can govern themselves, or will selfish, power-hungry wannabe dictators always arise no matter what? And if so, shouldn't we have a policing force making sure this doesn't happen and that the weak aren't taken advantage of?
Luffy will embody an anarchistic POV, claiming that people can take care of themselves, that there will always also be someone who protects their nakama.
Coby, on the other hand, will want a "clean" Navy, actually focused on helping the people this time, without the CD bullshit.
I think, in the end Luffy will realize this, and will hand himself over to the new Navy to validate their ability to neutralize potential threats. Luffy's surrender will end the age of piracy, and signal the beginning of the One World Government under the banner of the sun.
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What a Cheesy ending:whitepress:
 
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Dragon777

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#203
#203
moreha9685 said:
Luffy battles:
- IMU for freedom;
- BB for the means of creating the new world after IMU;
- Coby to decide if the new world should have borders and a central administrative power a la Marines or not.

They're all different facets of what OP is trying to say on governments, control, and utopias.
IMU has to be taken down because people aren't free under him, and the entire world will be destroyed otherwise.
BB has to be taken down because him getting the One Piece could lead to a future several times worse than the actual WG.

BB will likely help against IMU.
Coby will be an ally against BB.
Both IMU and BB are unnecessary evils that need to be dealt with.
Coby isn't. Coby is Luffy's other side of the "good guys" coin.

Luffy vs Coby, in the epilogue, is an ideological fight. You've taken down the dictator; you've prevented the eldritch monster from engulfing the world in eternal darkness. Now it's the dawn of a new world. Do we trust that people can govern themselves, or will selfish, power-hungry wannabe dictators always arise no matter what? And if so, shouldn't we have a policing force making sure this doesn't happen and that the weak aren't taken advantage of?
Luffy will embody an anarchistic POV, claiming that people can take care of themselves, that there will always also be someone who protects their nakama.
Coby, on the other hand, will want a "clean" Navy, actually focused on helping the people this time, without the CD bullshit.
I think, in the end Luffy will realize this, and will hand himself over to the new Navy to validate their ability to neutralize potential threats. Luffy's surrender will end the age of piracy, and signal the beginning of the One World Government under the banner of the sun.
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Imu, BB, Akainu, Koby are all aure fights in some capacity.

All of them are for something.
 
Water1415

Water1415

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#204
#204
Everybody in this thread bitches when the straw hats are given unrealistic plot armor but koby becoming admiral level in 2 years even 3 years makes perfect sense to you guys 😂😂 hypocrites
 
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Dragon777

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#205
#205
Water1415 said:
Everybody in this thread bitches when the straw hats are given unrealistic plot armor but koby becoming admiral level in 2 years even 3 years makes perfect sense to you guys 😂😂 hypocrites
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Perfect sense =\ thinking what Is going to happen.

The power up management in the post TS was shit for everybody, even for Luffy.
 
MonsterKaido

MonsterKaido

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#207
#207
moreha9685 said:
Luffy battles:
- IMU for freedom;
- BB for the means of creating the new world after IMU;
- Coby to decide if the new world should have borders and a central administrative power a la Marines or not.

They're all different facets of what OP is trying to say on governments, control, and utopias.
IMU has to be taken down because people aren't free under him, and the entire world will be destroyed otherwise.
BB has to be taken down because him getting the One Piece could lead to a future several times worse than the actual WG.

BB will likely help against IMU.
Coby will be an ally against BB.
Both IMU and BB are unnecessary evils that need to be dealt with.
Coby isn't. Coby is Luffy's other side of the "good guys" coin.

Luffy vs Coby, in the epilogue, is an ideological fight. You've taken down the dictator; you've prevented the eldritch monster from engulfing the world in eternal darkness. Now it's the dawn of a new world. Do we trust that people can govern themselves, or will selfish, power-hungry wannabe dictators always arise no matter what? And if so, shouldn't we have a policing force making sure this doesn't happen and that the weak aren't taken advantage of?
Luffy will embody an anarchistic POV, claiming that people can take care of themselves, that there will always also be someone who protects their nakama.
Coby, on the other hand, will want a "clean" Navy, actually focused on helping the people this time, without the CD bullshit.
I think, in the end Luffy will realize this, and will hand himself over to the new Navy to validate their ability to neutralize potential threats. Luffy's surrender will end the age of piracy, and signal the beginning of the One World Government under the banner of the sun.
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:crazwhat:
 
Cruxroux

Cruxroux

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#210
#210
moreha9685 said:
All you took from that is "hurr-durr, who's strongest?" and you wonder why you have a reputation as a clown?
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Still better than your headcanon blud.
I said nothing about " Strongest "
:suresure::suresure:
My entire point was no perfect W on his side.
Against Kaidou , Yamato and Supernova helped.
Against BB , Coby will help.
Against Imu , BB will help sure lmao.

Whatever root it takes , I'm gonna have the final laugh.
:milaugh:

Coby will this , coby will that. As I already said , I would impressed if he even reaches YC1/YC1+ Level EoS.

My reputation isn't something you should be worried about lol , Didn't knew Creepy stalkers are here too lol.
 
moreha9685

moreha9685

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#213
#213
Dragon777 said:
Imu, BB, Akainu, Koby are all aure fights in some capacity.

All of them are for something.
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Akainu is the bridge between IMU and Coby.
Like IMU, he wants the Marines to have global control. But like Coby, he wants to do this for justice, not for selfish reasons.
Akainu's problem is that he believes all pirates, by their very definition, to be criminals and therefore to be dealt with. Coby knows this to not be the case.
So, if Akainu gets a redemption, it'd be by crossing paths with a pirate who saves someone close to Akainu. Which doesn't necessarily have to be Luffy. But that's one of two steps needed for Akainu's character arc to end positively.
1. Rebel against the WG/IMU. However, he will do this by going the extreme, most destructive route possible -- Sutur reference/volcano armageddon. He will therefore be stopped and defeated (either Revs or SHs);
2. Realize that pirates can be good people = show his childhood trauma involving pirates. In the present: micro scale -- have pirate save someone he cares for (Hibari or whatever); on the macro -- have a pirate (Luffy) accomplish what Akainu wanted to do (root out WG demonic corruption) without the extreme costs he was willing to inflict on the world.
 
moreha9685

moreha9685

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#215
#215
MonsterKaido said:
Smoker needs an massive upgrade. Koby clearly far more important than smoker moving forward as of now. Koby not smoker is garp's successor and inheritor of garp's power.
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It can be both, you know? Someone's will can inspire more than a single person.
Coby carries Garp's heart, but it's Smoker who, like Garp, hates chain of command and will stay at a lower rank if it means he can do whatever he wants, without having to respond to CD orders.
 
MonsterKaido

MonsterKaido

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#216
#216
moreha9685 said:
It can be both, you know? Someone's will can inspire more than a single person.
Coby carries Garp's heart, but it's Smoker who, like Garp, hates chain of command and will stay at a lower rank if it means he can do whatever he wants, without having to respond to CD orders.
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No matter what smoker is not inheritor of garp's power. It's woby.
 
moreha9685

moreha9685

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#217
#217
MonsterKaido said:
No matter what smoker is not inheritor of garp's power. It's woby.
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Power alone isn't enough to make a change. That's why Garp didn't alter the WG.
You need a Garp willing to climb the ladder to get to a position of command, even if it means eating shit along the way. And a Garp who does things outside of the main channels, willingly disobeying orders.
Coby and Smoker both serve the narrative functions of an ideal Garp.
 
MonsterKaido

MonsterKaido

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#218
#218
moreha9685 said:
Power alone isn't enough to make a change. That's why Garp didn't alter the WG.
You need a Garp willing to climb the ladder to get to a position of command, even if it means eating shit along the way. And a Garp who does things outside of the main channels, willingly disobeying orders.
Coby and Smoker both serve the narrative functions of an ideal Garp.
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Prime Woby >>> Loker
 
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