Multiverse General Who is the better older brother?

Who is the better older brother?


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TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#83
Hiruzen was a bad Hokage
He turned a blind eye to every shady things Danzo did

He needed Danzo business to run the village
Hiruzen ruled Konoha for 50 years, through two world wars (possibly 3), and made it the strongest village when he originally retired.

hiruzen was the best Hokage.
 
#84
It makes him far worse than Itachi, who didn’t hesitate to make sacrifices for Sasuke.
Itachi killed entire clan but he didn't kill Sasuke is a terrible and selfish thing to do, all that mental torture Sasuke experienced as a kid by his brother. Either kill every clan member equally or don't, leaving Sasuke alone was nothing but torture for the kid.

Ace never told Luffy, or even WB pirates to save him, he even asked Garp to kill him before.

Luffy shouldn't even be in Marineford, you say Ace is selfish lmao.
 
#85
And this only works if Danzos words have shreds of truths in them. Hiruzen and Itachi at this time are both geniuses.

There’s no mention or blurb in the manga that even hints at the Uchiha succeeding. None. Zero.
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He claimed they had to be annihilated cause they were a threat. Annihilated - not arrested, not talked with, they were so dangerous, they had to be annihilated.

And the Uchiha surely wouldn't wait for this long, and then what, suicide by coup? They thought they had a shot.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#86
If he was selfish he would beg Luffy to save him like Sanji did for Robin.

Ace specifically told Luffy gtfo during Marineford because he had his own crew. Then he even told his own crew why did they come anyways he wasn't even asking WB pirates to save him, he even asked Garp to kill him before.

Luffy was selfish for disrespecting Ace's own adventure and interfering WB pirates own business.
Ace was selfish because insults towards WB hurt him. And he stood up to Akainu for his own pride in a moment when he should’ve been running away. It was beyond someone acting without thinking, this was pure idiocy on his part to turn around and fight Akainu while everyone else was urging him to escape
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#91
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He claimed they had to be annihilated cause they were a threat. Annihilated - not arrested, not talked with, they were so dangerous, they had to be annihilated.

And the Uchiha surely wouldn't wait for this long, and then what, suicide by coup? They thought they had a shot.
According to the semi-canon novels, Fugaku wanted to kidnap Hiruzen, make Hiruzen step down and take the place himself. Then he’d desegregate the clan.

The Uchiha, a prideful clan rich with arrogance characters, can think they can do this on a Konoha that doesn’t know about the coup.

And yes, annihilated. That’s what happens to traitors. I’m not sure Konoha could trust a clan that unilaterally decides it wants to take over.
 
#93
Ace was selfish because insults towards WB hurt him. And he stood up to Akainu for his own pride in a moment when he should’ve been running away. It was beyond someone acting without thinking, this was pure idiocy on his part to turn around and fight Akainu while everyone else was urging him to escape
And thats Ace's own business. When he asked WB to fight Kaido, Marco told him about casualties then Ace asked he would go alone.

Ace can't be hold responsible for that when he consistently told WB pirates and Luffy to gtfo and don't save him. Ace decided to live his life in his own way, just like WB pirates and Luffy decided to sacrifice their lives selfishly because (Ace told them gtfo already), Ace does the same, he can do whatever he wants, he didn't ask for their help.
 
#94
It means if their roles were reversed, Sasuke dies with the clan because Ace is too prideful and stupid to think of others.
Nope, there are other ways to handle this instead of the black and white Danzo bullshit.

Hiruzen was a bad Hokage
He turned a blind eye to every shady things Danzo did

He needed Danzo business to run the village
Yeah, he was horrid. :josad:
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#95
Nope, there are other ways to handle this instead of the black and white Danzo bullshit.


Yeah, he was horrid. :josad:
Unless you know of something that wasn’t stated in the manga, that’s just untrue lol.

The only mention of a possible solution hinted at by Kishi is Minato saying maybe he could’ve done something if he survived.
 
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