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What part of the Law example did you not get? Law is tiers above Vergo, not for a second would I put them on par physically.

Not many characters out there as physically imposing as Vergo is. Very limited number of high tiers for sure. Hancock is certainly not one of them.
Hajrudin has one of the best raw strenght feat in the OP verse and still got bitched by G2 Luffy and went extreme diff with Machvise.
Vergo doesn't push Hancock to extreme diff no matter the circumstances, let's stop being silly.
 
Vergo was so strong and physically imposing that he got sent into a wall by a DJ kick and a punch from Smoker had him on the floor immediately.
Very physically imposing indeed! He definitely beats Jack!
I actually rate Vergo higher than your average vet but he caps significantly below YC3 no matter what.
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Funnily P1 also overpowered Sanji and sent him flying but I don't see anybody claiming P1 is YC2 or some shit
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Hajrudin has one of the best raw strenght feat in the OP verse and still got bitched by G2 Luffy and went extreme diff with Machvise.
Vergo doesn't push Hancock to extreme diff no matter the circumstances, let's stop being silly.
This is cool and all but the difference is Hajrudin got bitched by g2 Luffy, Vergo didn't flinch taking counter shock or dj to the face without guarding. Had Sanji questioning what his body was made out of, and cracked Sanji's leg without even hardening. G2 would tickle Vergo, it's basic scaling off of comparable attacks.
 
I actually rate Vergo higher than your average vet but he caps significantly below YC3 no matter what.
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Funnily P1 also overpowered Sanji and sent him flying but I don't see anybody claiming P1 is YC2 or some shit
I'm so serious when I say Vergo can't even get past a single biscuit soldier with his best attacks.
Literally can not even dent one with his best moves.
Vergo is not who these guys think he is, he was impressive for his time but he immediately stopped being impressive once we saw characters like Sabo and Cracker.
Those who would curbstomp him in two seconds flat.
And from there we only kept seeing characters far stronger and far more impressive than him. I mean, hell, it's really hard to argue he even beats WsW, and WsW is just a Tobiroppo.
 
This is cool and all but the difference is Hajrudin got bitched by g2 Luffy, Vergo didn't flinch taking counter shock or dj without guarding. Had Sanji questioning what his body was made out of, and cracked Sanji's leg without even hardening. G2 would tickle Vergo, it's basic scaling off of comparable attacks.
Vergo is stoic so he doesn't show his pain but he did get send flying all bloodied by a DJ attack in a clash against Sanji. And Smoker was shown to get the better of Vergo in CQC in some scenes despite not fighting like his usual self to get Law heart back.
I def agree that Vergo is more impressive than your vet but he's far from the god of high tiers, even in close combat.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Vergo is stoic so he doesn't show his pain but he did get send flying all bloodied by a DJ attack in a clash against Sanji. And Smoker was shown to get the better of Vergo in CQC in some scenes despite not fighting like his usual self to get Law heart back.
I def agree that Vergo is more impressive than your vet but he's far from the god of high tiers, even in close combat.
Stoic would be one thing, but Sanji actually specifically pointed out his durability right after cheapshotting him in the face with DJ. Just for reference when base Sanji cheapshotted Oven, a vet who was called the toughest of the entire BMP including the commanders, Oven was almost seeing the pearly gates.

I don't think people still to this day understand Vergo. Sanji was outdoing Vergo completely in their exchange, infact Vergo didn't land a single attack on Sanji. Yet after their exchange it was Sanji questioning if he could even continue fighting, while Vergo forgot Sanji ever existed.

Same shit happened with Smoker, Smoker was tossing Vergo around outdoing him in CQC but Vergo just wasn't slowing down, while Smoker was wearing himself down to the point where he realized the fight was going to be a loss for him, had to completely shift tactics when he realized he wasn't going to win despite completely outlanding against him.

Pretty sure Vergo is supposed to be based off the terminator. That's what Oda was going with. This is also why Oda had Vergo fall to hax instead of a physical limit.
 
Stoic would be one thing, but Sanji actually specifically pointed out his durability right after cheapshotting him in the face with DJ. Just for reference when base Sanji cheapshotted Oven, a vet who was called the toughest of the entire BMP including the commanders, Oven was almost seeing the pearly gates.

I don't think people still to this day understand Vergo. Sanji was outdoing Vergo completely in their exchange, infact Vergo didn't land a single attack on Sanji. Yet after their exchange it was Sanji questioning if he could even continue fighting, while Vergo forgot Sanji ever existed.

Same shit happened with Smoker, Smoker was tossing Vergo around outdoing him in CQC but Vergo just wasn't slowing down, while Smoker was wearing himself down to the point where he realized the fight was going to be a loss for him, had to completely shift tactics when he realized he wasn't going to win despite completely outlanding against him.

Pretty sure Vergo is supposed to be based off the terminator. That's what Oda was going with. This is also why Oda had Vergo fall to hax instead of a physical limit.
Lets also not forget the context at the time. Early post timeskip was all about jobber villians getting humiliated by the SH, going on until maybe like, Katakuri honestly. The fact that Vergo was basically indifferent to Sanji is just insane in that context,especially in a kicking contest
 
This is cool and all but the difference is Hajrudin got bitched by g2 Luffy, Vergo didn't flinch taking counter shock or dj to the face without guarding. Had Sanji questioning what his body was made out of, and cracked Sanji's leg without even hardening. G2 would tickle Vergo, it's basic scaling off of comparable attacks.
“Without even hardening”

Uh huh… and who told you that because even full body hardening Vergo still had white pants
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
@SakazOuki @ZenZu Lets face the facts, no one in the WG wanted to make a Vergo seraphim, putting him around Roger/Garp tier. Any warlord is above him
At the end of the day, Hancock is simply the bigger threat as it concerns the rest of the verse and it's not even close. She can potentially even beat top tiers under the right circumstances. Vergo has nothing for anyone, he's just a physical specimen with maxed out hardening. Majority of Warlords all have broken devil fruits or abilities.

This doesn't mean Vergo can't bully tf out of Hancock in a 1v1 though if he can avoid her hax. But there's a solid chance she would just turn him into stone in CQC. Vergo is also known for taking attacks, he's not exactly Katakuri here.
 
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