Questions & Mysteries Who is the most Creative user of their Devil Fruit?

#21
Things Big Mom did with her fruit:
  • Soul Pocus
  • Incarnations that can autonomously Soul Pocus for her
  • Innumerable Homies (almost everything in Whole Cake Island is Homies, including the hills, forests, and vast array of soldiers)
  • Special Homies like Napoleon, Zeus, Prometheus, and Hera that are literally as strong as commanders by themselves and can collectively manipulate the weather
  • Homies created out of other abilities (e.g., Perospero's candy monster that she used to create a tsunami or Cracker's Biscuit Soldiers that can autonomously patrol WCI through her power)
  • Island-range elemental attacks that can even have homing qualities to counter enemy mobility
  • Maser Cannon, Maser Saber, and Misery being new Homie combination attacks/forms that she pulled out of her ass on the spot after creating Hera, since Prometheus explicitly notes they couldn't have done those combinations with Zeus (and being able to create something as powerful as Hera on the spot [see: Fulgora as her testing move])
  • Flight with very high overall mobility and multiple backup options
  • Soul Buffs to augment herself with an undefined upper limit
  • Literal healing from infusing souls into her body
Anyone saying she's not easily one of the most creative DF-users in the manga is illiterate.
 
#23
Things Big Mom did with her fruit:
  • Soul Pocus
  • Incarnations that can autonomously Soul Pocus for her
  • Innumerable Homies (almost everything in Whole Cake Island is Homies, including the hills, forests, and vast array of soldiers)
  • Special Homies like Napoleon, Zeus, Prometheus, and Hera that are literally as strong as commanders by themselves and can collectively manipulate the weather
  • Homies created out of other abilities (e.g., Perospero's candy monster that she used to create a tsunami or Cracker's Biscuit Soldiers that can autonomously patrol WCI through her power)
  • Island-range elemental attacks that can even have homing qualities to counter enemy mobility
  • Maser Cannon, Maser Saber, and Misery being new Homie combination attacks/forms that she pulled out of her ass on the spot after creating Hera, since Prometheus explicitly notes they couldn't have done those combinations with Zeus (and being able to create something as powerful as Hera on the spot [see: Fulgora as her testing move])
  • Flight with very high overall mobility and multiple backup options
  • Soul Buffs to augment herself with an undefined upper limit
  • Literal healing from infusing souls into her body
Anyone saying she's not easily one of the most creative DF-users in the manga is illiterate.
Thing is a lot of those uses probably come from her watching Carmel.
 
#24
Thing is a lot of those uses probably come from her watching Carmel.
The same Carmel that canonically created only a single Homie? And Big Mom wasn't even mentally present when it happened.

As far as the story tells us, you can't even claim that Big Mom knew Carmel ever had a Devil Fruit at all. Even the surrounding Giants attributed her creation of Pandora to a "miracle" instead of a DF ability.

There's zero reason to attribute any of the things Big Mom managed to do with the fruit to Carmel's use of it.
 
#25
Is it really taking you this long to comprehend I think she got pretty close to getting most out of her DF,
That position is so silly though. In-universe, Big Mom is basically the poster child for wasted potential. I really don't see how you can argue otherwise.

even if I think there was more she could've gotten out of it?
Given that you felt the need to plaster this onto the end of your comment, I think I rest my case.

There was clearly more that she could've gotten out of her fruit.

That isn't usually the case with Devil Fruit Users.

Could Lucci have made better use than he did out of his fruit? Could Kaido? Could Mr 1? Could King? What about Mr 3? Or Buggy? Miss Merry Christmas? Any of the admirals? Smoker? Dalton? Pell? Perona? There are definitely many more too.

None of the above fruits give hints of having untapped potential beyond what has been shown. Big Mom's Soul fruit meanwhile is just brimming with untapped potential.

And if you didn't think that matters to the topic at hand, that's why I quoted the OP as I did.
 
#26
That position is so silly though. In-universe, Big Mom is basically the poster child for wasted potential. I really don't see how you can argue otherwise.
This is a retarded ass take, and you want to talk about having a case. Please. :suresure:

There was clearly more that she could've gotten out of her fruit.
These are relative terms.

Big Mom's ability to manipulate souls is presented as more malleable than most DF, including ones mentioned in this thread.

She has elemental power, energy blasts, weather-manipulating abilities, can infuse souls into objects to create lifeforms and manipulate lifespan for boosts and healing. Get a fucking grip. :suresure:
 
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#27
On the same day Kaku gained his DF, he pushed Zoro with techniques he came up with on the spot and was able to effectively blend his new abilities with Rokushiki and his swordsmanship. The fact that Kaku also awakened it so quickly shows how much of a prodigy he is.
 
#30
No one comes even close to Katakuri in this regard.
Luffy literally pushing his organism to the limit, his blood, his bones, his muscles and stuff... but yea, Kata's somehow better(no).....
._.
Kaku's so amazing to combine his fruit with rokushiki.... totally better than combining Smoker, Enel and Ace with a vehicle.....
Doffy stitching his organs, controlling people, creatiing a string clone and other stuff.... yea, amazingly skilled Kaku....
 
#31
Luffy literally pushing his organism to the limit, his blood, his bones, his muscles and stuff... but yea, Kata's somehow better(no).....

._.
Kaku's so amazing to combine his fruit with rokushiki.... totally better than combining Smoker, Enel and Ace with a vehicle.....
Doffy stitching his organs, controlling people, creatiing a string clone and other stuff.... yea, amazingly skilled Kaku....
Would have been Luffy before it was revealed he is the user of the mythical zoan Imu fears lol. There's no more creativity to it, it's not the gomu gomu no mi.

We are talking about creativity here btw no? It's in the thread title, not skills and power level.
 
#32
I'm just going to ignore the straight up mockery you're giving me, and try to address what you actually have to say.
Big Mom's ability to manipulate souls is presented as more malleable than most DF, including ones mentioned in this thread.
Yep. The Soul Soul fruit is definitely a power with a whole lot of varied applications.

That has less than nothing to do with Big Mom in the context of this argument though. The OP's question was about who most fulfills the potential of their Devil Fruit. And that's the only thing I've been arguing.

Contrary to what you might believe, basic logic states that someone who has a devil fruit with a lot of potential, is typically further from fully fulfilling the potential of that devil fruit, than someone who has a devil fruit with very little potential.

Do you want me to quote the OP again?
She has elemental power, energy blasts, weather-manipulating abilities, can infuse souls into objects to create lifeforms and manipulate lifespan for boosts and healing.
Yes; her fruit comes with a lot of powers.

And yet, does she use any of these things effectively in the story?

A hypothetical competent Big Mom, that even I often use in Vs debates, would use her powers very effectively, since she clearly has so many of them. But in the actual story, hardly anything would've been changed for her combat effectiveness if she were just some random giant meatball with a sword.

People constantly accuse her of being a jobber for a reason, you realize. In any given moment, she hardly ever thinks to use any real application of her Devil Fruit.

Now tell me, does that scream mastery? Does that give off the impression of fulfilled potential?

Or do you just not speak english as your first language and most of what I've been saying is literally just words on a page to you.
Genuinely, tell me.
 
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