Who is the most talneted between Sasuke Kakashi and itachi ?

[ZenZu]

If we're going by age then 16 year old Sasuke zero diffs 21 year old Itachi and 30 year old Kakashi a hundred times over

Yea but I'm not counting the god buffs. That was legit just handed down mid war, Sasuke wouldn't have achieved that on his own.

And Kakashi at the same age as Sasuke was a Jonin, no?

Young Kakashi is working young Sasuke

Yea but Sasuke is an Uchiha. He'd lap him soon enough.

Itachi and Sasuke can be measured by who was the bigger natural prodigy since the conditions are similar. And it's Itachi if you ask me.

 

[SkySanji]

Yea but I'm not counting the god buffs. That was legit just handed down mid war, Sasuke wouldn't have achieved that on his own.

You really don't think 21 year old Sasuke would have surpassed 21 year old Itachi even without Six Paths shit? He already surpassed him with EMS and was pretty close to him with MS and that's a 16 year old Sasuke...

 

[ZenZu]

You really don't think 21 year old Sasuke would have surpassed 21 year old Itachi even without Six Paths shit? He already surpassed him with EMS and was pretty close to him with MS and that's a 16 year old Sasuke...

Maybe, but there were a lot of factors and circumstances that went into that.

I feel like Itachi was the stronger natural prodigy. Like Itachi pushed the hell out of Sasuke to get strong as fuck and he was still a fodder at 13. Itachi was the elite of the elite at that age with the same lineage factor.

 

[Welkin]

Yea but Sasuke is an Uchiha. He'd lap him soon enough.

Itachi and Sasuke can be measured by who was the bigger natural prodigy since the conditions are similar. And it's Itachi if you ask me.

Kakashi at the age of 12 was a jonin that created his own A-S rank jutsu

He then went on to obtain the sharingan and utilize it better than most actual Uchihas to the point where he became known around the world as Kakashi the Copy Ninja

If we include genetics then I can see why you'd put Itachi and Sasuke over him but I just don't think it's a fair comparison

Just imagine what he could do if he was an Uchiha himself

I feel like certain characters should get credit for how strong they are without any genetic abilities. B is definitely among the best in the series even without his tailed beast and he doesn't hail from a clan

If you take out certain things a lot more characters would be in the discussion

 

[ZenZu]

Kakashi at the age of 12 was a jonin that created his own A-S rank jutsu

He then went on to obtain the sharingan and utilize it better than most actual Uchihas to the point where he became known around the world as Kakashi the Copy Ninja

If we include genetics then I can see why you'd put Itachi and Sasuke over him but I just don't think it's a fair comparison

Just imagine what he could do if he was an Uchiha himself

I feel like certain characters should get credit for how strong they are without any genetic abilities. B is definitely among the best in the series even without his tailed beast and he doesn't hail from a clan

If you take out certain things a lot more characters would be in the discussion

Kakashi is insanely talented but you can't talk about talent and not mention the godamn Uchiha. They are historically a top 2 clan thanks to their genes. And then ontop of that we're talking about the absolute cream of the crop of the clan. Adult Sasuke without any bs hand me down powerups would still lap Kakashi eventually.

Itachi had that dude crippled for weeks when they met briefly.

 

[SkySanji]

Itachi Shinden novel directly puts Itachi over Kakashi in terms of talent at least, it's stated that the academy never had a student as talented as Itachi, and obviously Kakashi attended the academy before Itachi.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Itachi Shinden novel directly puts Itachi over Kakashi in terms of talent at least, it's stated that the academy never had a student as talented as Itachi, and obviously Kakashi attended the academy before Itachi.

Do we really believe this tho?
I think minato easily is more talented than Itachi...

 

[SkySanji]

To further Itachi > Kakashi, Orochimaru straight up admits that even teenage Itachi is stronger than him, meanwhile a much older Kakashi knew he stood zero chance against Orochimaru.

Do we really believe this tho?
I think minato easily is more talented than Itachi...

I think Itachi is more talented than Minato, it's just that Itachi never got to reach his potential because of his sickness and death

 

[Haoshoku]

Kakashi was handed a sharingan, it’s pretty clear where he falls in the pecking order when it comes to talent. Itachi is the most talented out of the 3 here by far.

 

[Momonosuke]

Prime sauske had a higher peak, but it could have been different if itachi wasn't dying or if kakashi was born an Uchiha. With that being said both kakashi and and itachi peaked sooner and had far more skill at a younger age

 

[Franosuke]

Do genes not contribute heavily to talent tho?

 

[Welkin]

Do genes not contribute heavily to talent tho?

That’s kinda the issue when it comes to talent arguments especially for Naruto

A lot of characters have a genetic advantage so it’s hard to determine who’s more talented than the other

Like you could argue Itachi is more talented than Sasuke yet Sasuke is stronger than him because he’s born to be superior to most Uchiha (reincarnation of Indra)

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Among these three, it was clearly Itachi. Kakashi is less gifted genetically than the Uchiha duo but he's more of a genius as far as brains go.

Itachi Shinden novel directly puts Itachi over Kakashi in terms of talent at least, it's stated that the academy never had a student as talented as Itachi, and obviously Kakashi attended the academy before Itachi.

Was it true? Irrc, it was said Minato's academy scores were the highest in history. Itachi is second.

 

[SkySanji]

Was it true? Irrc, it was said Minato's academy scores were the highest in history. Itachi is second.

Minato's scores for the written test of the Chunin Exams were the highest, not overall, and that's more intellect than raw talent per se.

Similarly, Itachi has the record for the fastest forest of death time of the Chunin Exams even over Minato and as I said, Itachi was directly called the most talented student in history of the academy which includes Minato.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

itachi is kishimoto

 

[MonsterKaido]

itachi is kishimoto

Didn't kishimoto said if Itachi was alive even madara can't beat him? Kishimoto's respect for itachi is very high

 

[soheilhazrat]

Didn't kishimoto said if Itachi was alive even madara can't beat him? Kishimoto's respect for itachi is very high

Nah that was fanmade interview

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Minato's scores for the written test of the Chunin Exams were the highest, not overall, and that's more intellect than raw talent per se.

Similarly, Itachi has the record for the fastest forest of death time of the Chunin Exams even over Minato and as I said, Itachi was directly called the most talented student in history of the academy which includes Minato.

I guess Minato is more similar to Kakashi—more intellectually gifted but less genetically gifted than Itachi, which is kinda obvious as Itachi was an Uchiha on top of being a genius.

 

[SkySanji]

I guess Minato is more similar to Kakashi—more intellectually gifted but less genetically gifted than Itachi, which is kinda obvious as Itachi was an Uchiha on top of being a genius.

Minato probably is more intelligent, Kakashi not so much though, Minato and Itachi were #1 and #2 respectively on the written test in history, putting both ahead of Kakashi, and seven year old Itachi was even considered by Hiruzen to be as logical/wise as a Hokage which is crazy.

Itachi was pretty much Kishimoto's version of Oden when it comes to how much their respective authors treat and portray them

I would put these three like

Talent: Itachi > Minato > Kakashi
Intelligence: Minato > Itachi > Kakashi

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Minato probably is more intelligent, Kakashi not so much though, Minato and Itachi were #1 and #2 respectively on the written test in history, putting both ahead of Kakashi, and seven year old Itachi was even considered by Hiruzen to be as logical/wise as a Hokage which is crazy.

Itachi was pretty much Kishimoto's version of Oden when it comes to how much their respective authors treat and portray them

I would put these three like

Talent: Itachi > Minato > Kakashi
Intelligence: Minato > Itachi > Kakashi

Kakashi's scores weren't as good as their's but he was the youngest ever to graduate, and he was also a Chunin at 7. Itachi graduated from the academy at 7, but he wasn't quite in Chunin's class. I'd say Kakashi's got better brains while Itachi is overall more gifted due to genetics followed by Minato.