Character Discussion Who is the strongest strawhat excluding the Monster trio and Jinbei ?

[Pan D. A. Man]

Jinbei vs Ace tie in 10 day and Jinbei blocked from BM attack. So Jinbei YC1 Commander Level. And Jinbei > Sanji. Oda sometimes draw just Jinbei, Luffy, Zoro in Wano Arc. so Jinbei in new monster trio.

But but we are the toxic. Yes sir. I am not nothing character fan but I am toxic.

Yet he stuck fighting T6H despite being 'YC lvl'. Plus BM was nerfed and he knew they would need to abandon ship since they couldn't stop her. Jimbei is strong, but not above M3. Also you do realize Sanji was paired with Luffy and Jimbei early too, so if your using that excuse, then same thing for that when they were solo an army of Beast Pirates together no problem.

Your being toxic if your ignore information and change it on agenda. That is bad.

 

[Jailer]

Franky/Robin, leaning more to Franky

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Technically correct. If Zoro has no swords and is facing sanji‚ then Sanji is winning hands down even without the raid suit

how is that relevant, this is one piece by your logic if luffy didnt have the devil fruit who would lose half the fights he won.
In one piece world you can use any weapon at any rate . If you trained your swordmanship your whole life you will obviously use it.
Zoro didnt get his swordmanship skills as a gift like sanji got his raidsuit he trained the art his whole life until he got where hes at with his skills. He didnt wake up one day and was able to use swords the way hes using them. He went many fights and trained many days and nights since he was a kid until he became this strong.

The only thing that matters in the one piece verse is who is standing last. Zoro will literally beat sanji with maximum medium difficulty.

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Nah, Apoo would have damage him badly if fight was solo. That why Drake help him. Don't lie about that. Sanji can't hurt women, that isn't anything new. If anything this is like Enies Lobby route and he already defeated PO and Drake, so he is above T6H level honestly.

Why make this Z vs S when I adore both characters? I don't use biased on my side, I go what is obvious situation. If we using traits as a issue, then Zoro having no swords can get defeated easily and Sanji is that much stronger than him. Not playing with this debate, bruh.

Zoro one shot Apoo. You are just assuming he wouldnt beat him if it wasnt solo. But you dont know that you are simply assuming because its helping you cope with Zoro being much superior than your favorite character.

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

its irrelevant because he could just run, He doesnt have to hit women to run. He was just captured and thats it, Sanji has no feats this arc, And all he did was run into black marias spider web again and again. Zoro has already fought Super novas and went on to fight Kaido. Frank is fighting sasaki.
Like i said different leagues different levels. Sanji is not even close to being on Zoros level. And quiet frankly he never was and never will be at all in the whole one piece series. You can like both and you can like one that doesnt matter. The manga decides and there is is evidence all throughout the manga that Zoro> Sanji. And in this Arc Franky and jinbei so far> Sanji. It might change if Sanji goes on to fight queen or something.

It's T6H's abilities though, not like fodder enemy, so if she set up web traps around, it not because she overpower him, but she planned ahead since they prepare on Sanji being there after all from information they gotten.

Zoro fighting supernovas not really credible when he lost to Hawkins, tie with nerfed Kamazou, and 2 vs 1 Apoo. No solo feats to talk worthy on that and supporting Luffy in the fight is good, but we know he isn't beating Kaido nor Big Mom. He going to get hype tool for Luffy vs Kaido in it.

Nah, man. He is and always will be. Sanji is always next to Zoro as equals in their prowress. Been that way for 24 years straight and Oda likes dynamic as shown even in arc how they interact with one another. Just it how it is and stupid to say Sanji is out of it when nothing states that. Jimbei and Franky status hasn't change anything and your just being biased about it. Just the plain truth .

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

How is that different from Zoro being captured in mister 3 's cake in little garden ?

First of all sanji could have ran long ago ( or beat black maria) but decided to get captured not once but twice in a middle of war because hes simping for black maria.

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As I said I like them both equally‚ but that is no fair comparison since we know sanji never used his hands to fight nor attack women. Sanji never fought black Maria to lose. It is not like she overpowered him

Doesnt matter if she overpowered him because Sanji has a weakness. He got overpowered in a middle of a war and thats all. Sanjis selfish behavior is putting other straw hats in danger.

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

how is that relevant, this is one piece by your logic if luffy didnt have the devil fruit who would lose half the fights he won.
In one piece world you can use any weapon at any rate . If you trained your swordmanship your whole life you will obviously use it.
Zoro didnt get his swordmanship skills as a gift like sanji got his raidsuit he trained the art his whole life until he got where hes at with his skills. He didnt wake up one day and was able to use swords the way hes using them. He went many fights and trained many days and nights since he was a kid until he became this strong.

The only thing that matters in the one piece verse is who is standing last. Zoro will literally beat sanji with maximum medium difficulty.

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Zoro one shot Apoo. You are just assuming he wouldnt beat him if it wasnt solo. But you dont know that you are simply assuming because its helping you cope with Zoro being much superior than your favorite character.

Nah, bruh. Your only one coping like with blacktooth agenda you and few others nosensically try to push. It's kinda shame you guys are this toxic you can't admit truths anymore. Zoro sneak attack Apoo in 2 vs 1. Simple as that, but doesn't mean Zoro isn't strong. I still like him, but not making up excuses or lies for him. Both are my favorite, but not being apart of this Z vs S to take sides, but talking truths about situations. That's all it is to it.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

It's T6H's abilities though, not like fodder enemy, so if she set up web traps around, it not because she overpower him, but she planned ahead since they prepare on Sanji being there after all from information they gotten.

Zoro fighting supernovas not really credible when he lost to Hawkins, tie with nerfed Kamazou, and 2 vs 1 Apoo. No solo feats to talk worthy on that and supporting Luffy in the fight is good, but we know he isn't beating Kaido nor Big Mom. He going to get hype tool for Luffy vs Kaido in it.

Nah, man. He is and always will be. Sanji is always next to Zoro as equals in their prowress. Been that way for 24 years straight and Oda likes dynamic as shown even in arc how they interact with one another. Just it how it is and stupid to say Sanji is out of it when nothing states that. Jimbei and Franky status hasn't change anything and your just being biased about it. Just the plain truth .

Lost to hakins

Ignores the fact that once Zoro got serious he literally beat apoo with 1 attack
ignores the fact that Zoro was starving and only had 2 swords in the fight, Drew even when he stood above killers unconscious body ignores the fact that Zoro was only fell down because he was starving poisoned and tired. But killer was nerfed and Zoro was at full power apparently.

Reading 3 piece?

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Nah, bruh. Your only one coping like with blacktooth agenda you and few others nosensically try to push. It's kinda shame you guys are this toxic you can't admit truths anymore. Zoro sneak attack Apoo in 2 vs 1. Simple as that, but doesn't mean Zoro isn't strong. I still like him, but not making up excuses or lies for him. Both are my favorite, but not being apart of this Z vs S to take sides, but talking truths about situations. That's all it is to it.

You are speaking head canon not truths. Just because you think its truth doesnt make it "truth"

 

[Lightbolt]

First of all sanji could have ran long ago ( or beat black maria) but decided to get captured not once but twice in a middle of war because hes simping for black maria.

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Doesnt matter if she overpowered him because Sanji has a weakness. He got overpowered in a middle of a war and thats all. Sanjis selfish behavior is putting other straw hats in danger.

You didn't answer my question‚ why didn't zoro run before getting caught in mister 3's cake ?

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First of all sanji could have ran long ago ( or beat black maria) but decided to get captured not once but twice in a middle of war because hes simping for black maria.

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Doesnt matter if she overpowered him because Sanji has a weakness. He got overpowered in a middle of a war and thats all. Sanjis selfish behavior is putting other straw hats in danger.

Great that you know that he didn't get overpowered cause he is less skilled in fighting than Zoro.

I am new here and I really like both equally but Zoro's fanbase is driving me nuts lol

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

You didn't answer my question‚ why didn't zoro run before getting caught in mister 3's cake ?

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Great that you know that he didn't get overpowered cause he is less skilled in fighting than Zoro.

I am new here and I really like both equally but Zoro's fanbase is driving me nuts lol

No hes less skilled than Zoro and has much less resolve making him inferior to Zoro.
Sanji is simply weak minded. He cant Beat a women and will sacrifice any cause and even his friends for it, Hes in a middle of a war and still cant find the resolve to beat black maria or even run away which requires not fighting at all, Even they he got away from her webs once he got caught twice, Hes simply weak minded.

:cheers:

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Usopp

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

whitebeard was against a giant wall, sanji was against a door. :holdthisl:

Same material, who says they aren't made by same thing? Don't your trolling lol :holdthisl:.

 

[Cross_Marian]

I wish it would be Robin but Oda doesn’t treat her well, I think it’s Franky but Brook is near in strength to him.

 

[Kromage911]

It was stated in the chapter and by Marines on material is like one door use for shock absorption. Doesn't mean Whitebeard and Sanji were weak to break them, but materials are made to be like that. Franky using light laser doesn't mean he is stronger.

He's dumb, that's all, lol.

 

[Fuckthis3]

Brook

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Lost to hakins

Ignores the fact that once Zoro got serious he literally beat apoo with 1 attack
ignores the fact that Zoro was starving and only had 2 swords in the fight, Drew even when he stood above killers unconscious body ignores the fact that Zoro was only fell down because he was starving poisoned and tired. But killer was nerfed and Zoro was at full power apparently.

Reading 3 piece?

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You are speaking head canon not truths. Just because you think its truth doesnt make it "truth"

You can always tell who is legit and who is a troll when they don't try to answer your question and instead insult you personally. Lol bruh, your wasting your time. Don't act like a child now xD.

Show me where Hawkins got defeated by Zoro as I only saw bloody Zoro ran away from him and Hawkins was fine.

Drake help him on 2 vs 1 with Apoo. Are you ignoring him being there throughout that whole fight? That getting desperate, bruh.

He skill in different sword styles and having 2 swords doesn't stop him especially he beaten characters with less sword before. He isn't nerf, Kamazou was nerf and that is the truth. He wasn't neither poison or starve. Where your headcannon heading man? Your getting desperate to prove what isn't true lol.

Nah, I telling facts and your hitting me with 'Zoro-Piece' apparently. Got stay off meds, man :cheers:.

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He's dumb, that's all, lol.

Never met people like this online for OP. I heard about toxic people, but thought they weren't that bad, but I was wrong looking at this and certain topics XD.

 

[wereng99]

Umm, when jinbei joined the crew, monster trio change between sanji and jinbei. So Jinbe is now in monster trio.

I answer this question Sanji.

monster trio is no more, only greatest duo(luffy, zoro) but if yamato join there'll be monster trio again(yamato, jinbe, sanji)

 

[Blother Fertitta]

You can always tell who is legit and who is a troll when they don't try to answer your question and instead insult you personally. Lol bruh, your wasting your time. Don't act like a child now xD.

Show me where Hawkins got defeated by Zoro as I only saw bloody Zoro ran away from him and Hawkins was fine.

Drake help him on 2 vs 1 with Apoo. Are you ignoring him being there throughout that whole fight? That getting desperate, bruh.

He skill in different sword styles and having 2 swords doesn't stop him especially he beaten characters with less sword before. He isn't nerf, Kamazou was nerf and that is the truth. He wasn't neither poison or starve. Where your headcannon heading man? Your getting desperate to prove what isn't true lol.

Nah, I telling facts and your hitting me with 'Zoro-Piece' apparently. Got stay off meds, man :cheers:.

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Never met people like this online for OP. I heard about toxic people, but thought they weren't that bad, but I was wrong looking at this and certain topics XD.

Is Hawkins on the roof?

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

You can always tell who is legit and who is a troll when they don't try to answer your question and instead insult you personally. Lol bruh, your wasting your time. Don't act like a child now xD.

Show me where Hawkins got defeated by Zoro as I only saw bloody Zoro ran away from him and Hawkins was fine.

Drake help him on 2 vs 1 with Apoo. Are you ignoring him being there throughout that whole fight? That getting desperate, bruh.

He skill in different sword styles and having 2 swords doesn't stop him especially he beaten characters with less sword before. He isn't nerf, Kamazou was nerf and that is the truth. He wasn't neither poison or starve. Where your headcannon heading man? Your getting desperate to prove what isn't true lol.

Nah, I telling facts and your hitting me with 'Zoro-Piece' apparently. Got stay off meds, man :cheers:.

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Never met people like this online for OP. I heard about toxic people, but thought they weren't that bad, but I was wrong looking at this and certain topics XD.

didnt you insult me first ?

Nah, bruh. Your only one coping like with blacktooth agenda you and few others nosensically try to push. It's kinda shame you guys are this toxic you can't admit truths anymore./QUOTE]

Edit: why play the victim card when you insulted me first

 

[wereng99]

You can always tell who is legit and who is a troll when they don't try to answer your question and instead insult you personally. Lol bruh, your wasting your time. Don't act like a child now xD.

Show me where Hawkins got defeated by Zoro as I only saw bloody Zoro ran away from him and Hawkins was fine.

Drake help him on 2 vs 1 with Apoo. Are you ignoring him being there throughout that whole fight? That getting desperate, bruh.

He skill in different sword styles and having 2 swords doesn't stop him especially he beaten characters with less sword before. He isn't nerf, Kamazou was nerf and that is the truth. He wasn't neither poison or starve. Where your headcannon heading man? Your getting desperate to prove what isn't true lol.

Nah, I telling facts and your hitting me with 'Zoro-Piece' apparently. Got stay off meds, man :cheers:.

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Never met people like this online for OP. I heard about toxic people, but thought they weren't that bad, but I was wrong looking at this and certain topics XD.

can you show me panel where sanji fight opponents and where's he looking good without L?

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Is Hawkins on the roof?

Could come there soon. Last time we saw him, he was fine and still active around the war. I feel like fight will go like in movie of all Supernovas including Sanji will get up there to fight with Kaido especially give Luffy time for him to recover when using G4 multiple times.

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monster trio is no more, only greatest duo(luffy, zoro) but if yamato join there'll be monster trio again(yamato, jinbe, sanji)

can you show me panel where sanji fight opponents and where's he looking good without L?

He fought Page One and Drake this arc and shown dominance and defeat them. Please don't be another toxic member who thinks Sanji 'not doing anything to women' means he is weak as I am not taking you guys seriously if your getting that desperate lol.

Also nah, it's Monster Solo, Zoro is just supporting lol.