Questions & Mysteries Who is worse Xebec or Teach?

[Sword God Ryuma]

If ''nobody'' care my opinion then don't quote my post ZKKclown, you are the one quoted my post not me. No one cares your ZKK fodder ass opinion.

Last time I checked, Mihawk didn't do anything since then ZKKclown instead become partners with Crocodile and hide behind Buggy. Mihawk is a Zolo victim same as Alber. Perhaps Alber wouldn't be dumb enough to fight with flame off mode and Vista opponent-Croc partner Mihawk can lose to Alber, he postponed vs Vista and Jozu after all he didn't do shit yet.


Ok you changed your statement now, first you said WB wouldn't be an underling, and I showed you he wasn't already. Now you are saying he wouldn't even be on the same ship? Thats not the same thing as being an underling.

Yapping like usual like I said nobody cares about opinion of a dumbass that taught King was stronger than Mihawk. 😂 Yamato didn't not transform vs Ace neither did you see any Ice. Trash ass Ace was using his DF. Lol

 

[Ven437]

A child that was deceiving people with her Age DF ability and was still in adult form during that moment meaning Teach didn't know. No different than bounty hunters trying to kill Bonney for bounty, they don't know Bonney is a child.

“Young girl” yet she’s 22 in that form

BB has DF-nullification powers, he definitely knew she was a kid. Oda had this planned since way back. He most likely preferred her adult form anyways, not sure why you are so bent on insisting immoral pirates not acting like immoral pirates

 

[Erkan12]

dumbass

This guy is already debunked badly since he quoted my post then says no one cares my posts But he keep insulting.

4th insult from this random no name ZKKfan, I got banned 2 months for doing less @TheAncientCenturion @Natalija

Let me insult this random no name ZKKfanboy and don't interfere my business, or he should get banned too.

“Young girl” yet she’s 22 in that form

BB has DF-nullification powers, he definitely knew she was a kid. Oda had this planned since way back. He most likely preferred her adult form anyways, not sure why you are so bent on insisting immoral pirates not acting like immoral pirates

This is already debunked, Rayleigh said ''young girl'' as well, it simply means she is younger than him, not mean younger than 18.

 

[Ven437]

This guy is already debunked badly since he quoted my post then says no one cares my posts But he keep insulting.

4th insult from this random no name ZKKfan, I got banned 2 months for doing less @TheAncientCenturion @Natalija

Let me insult this random no name ZKKfanboy and don't interfere my business, or he should get banned too.


This is already debunked, Rayleigh said ''young girl'' as well, it simply means she is younger than him, not mean younger than 18.

Camie was 16 and the Rayleigh panel does not disprove BB knowing about Bonney either. It’s Oda and he from the same era where old men leeching on high school girls was comedic

 

[Erkan12]

Camie was 16 and the Rayleigh panel does not disprove BB knowing about Bonney either. It’s Oda and he from the same era where old men leeching on high school girls was comedic

It proves they can use ''young girl'' term for girls like Camie, it doesn't mean too young. So learn English.

 

[Ven437]

It proves they can use ''young girl'' term for girls like Camie, it doesn't mean too young. So learn English.

English lmfao looks like I need to show another lesson in the PROPER language that OP is spoke

Rayleigh uses the term 若い娘さん (lit. young daughter) which generally means age range of adolescent teen to young adult. The honorific -さん (mr/ms) added to it also implies he prefers them older

BB uses 小娘 (lit. small daughter) which is similar to above under SOME circumstances but can also mean anywhere between 5-12 yrs of age. 若い > 小 in terms of age perception

In fact Saturn who 100% knows about Bonney calls her 小娘 as well. Vegapunk calls her 子供 which lit means child and is synonymous with a 小娘 when the child is female

So the facts are:
-BB has DF nullifying powers
-BB calls Bonney a “small child” when she looks 22
-Rayleigh uses a different term than BB who uses the exact same term as Saturn
-Saturn knows Bonney real age

The most reasonable conclusion is BB also knew of Bonney true age whether due to intel or due to fighting her. Based on nothing but facts

 

[GeneralP123]

“Young girl” yet she’s 22 in that form

BB has DF-nullification powers, he definitely knew she was a kid. Oda had this planned since way back. He most likely preferred her adult form anyways, not sure why you are so bent on insisting immoral pirates not acting like immoral pirates

22 is young, there wasn't any reason for Teach to nullify her ability, he can beat her with brute force alone, his crew probably did the work instead of him.

 

[Ven437]

22 is young, there wasn't any reason for Teach to nullify her ability, he can beat her with brute force alone, his crew probably did the work instead of him.

see above

 

[GeneralP123]

see above

I'll stick to official translations and manga panels instead of fake japanese professors and headcanon.

 

[Ven437]

I'll stick to official translations and manga panels instead of fake japanese professors and headcanon.

You quoted me to deny the claim then when I provided the explanation with irrefutable facts you deliberately ignore it like Zoro ignore the first mermaid he ever saw

 

[GeneralP123]

You quoted me to deny the claim then when I provided the explanation with irrefutable facts you deliberately ignore it like Zoro ignore the first mermaid he ever saw

Irrefutable facts are headcanon and some random japanese translation interpretations even though you probably can't even speak or write japanese?

Post automatically merged: Apr 8, 2025

Probably, though opposite can happen as well, what if WB betrayed Xebec in God Valley, and Teach avenged Xebec? There are also theories about 4th division commander Thatch being an agent of Shiki or Cipher Pol agent.


You saying Xebec wouldn't kill for power?

''they were a fierce bunch, constantly killing one another within the group.''



A child that was deceiving people with her Age DF ability and was still in adult form during that moment meaning Teach didn't know. No different than bounty hunters trying to kill Bonney for bounty, they don't know Bonney is a child.

He told Ace that he joined WB Pirates to find Darkness DF from the beginning, not like he joined there to find a family then suddenly changed his mind and betrayed them.

Exactly, not even the readers knew the real age of Bonney until Egghead arc, Teach also had no reason to nullify the devil fruit of an opponent he can easily beat down with brute force alone.

 

[Ven437]

Irrefutable facts are headcanon and some random japanese translation interpretations even though you probably can't even speak or write japanese?

Been learning over a year with speaking practice and also provided some translations in the spoiler discussion lately which you can find. And then I made this post doing extensive translation clarification too

Viz isn’t the only translation out there buddy But look, if you want the real raw:

おれと本気でサシでやりあえる奴なんさ…いつぶりだろうな！！

Here is the true interpretation: “How long has it been… since there was someone who was able to fight me so seriously/for real?!”

How do I know this is more accurate? Cuz this is literally the same interp what Japanese boards use

“So even if BM battle was 1 on 1, it wasn’t a serious 1 on 1. BM also only had Napoleon as her homie, and if they were serious then she would use up one year of her lifespan.”

EDIT: side note but the same powerscaling thread above is talking about Yonko stalemates and partly talking about how Roger ducked fighting Prime Mum too

@park_min young @Steven @Philosoraptor @ConquistadoR @Monkey D Theories @Jonodule @Roo

So yea

 

[GeneralP123]

Been learning over a year with speaking practice and also provided some translations in the spoiler discussion lately which you can find. And then I made this post doing extensive translation clarification too

So yea

Exactly, so I'll stick with the pros, they've been translating many works for decades instead of fake professors who are in the process of learning japanese, just like I said.

 

[Ven437]

Exactly, so I'll stick with the pros, they've been translating many works for decades instead of fake professors who are in the process of learning japanese, just like I said.

Exactly, you deliberately ignore the facts because the truth hurts you

 

[GeneralP123]

Exactly, you deliberately ignore the facts because the truth hurts you

Why would anyone with a brain trust a random guy that is in the process of learning japanese instead of actual translators that have been translating many works including OP for decades?

 

[Erkan12]

English lmfao looks like I need to show another lesson in the PROPER language that OP is spoke

Rayleigh uses the term 若い娘さん (lit. young daughter) which generally means age range of adolescent teen to young adult. The honorific -さん (mr/ms) added to it also implies he prefers them older

BB uses 小娘 (lit. small daughter) which is similar to above under SOME circumstances but can also mean anywhere between 5-12 yrs of age. 若い > 小 in terms of age perception

In fact Saturn who 100% knows about Bonney calls her 小娘 as well. Vegapunk calls her 子供 which lit means child and is synonymous with a 小娘 when the child is female

So the facts are:
-BB has DF nullifying powers
-BB calls Bonney a “small child” when she looks 22
-Rayleigh uses a different term than BB who uses the exact same term as Saturn
-Saturn knows Bonney real age

The most reasonable conclusion is BB also knew of Bonney true age whether due to intel or due to fighting her. Based on nothing but facts

We don't need fake Japanese translator here, we can hear what they are saying;

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/about-blackbeard-calling-bonney-girl.65073/

Rayleigh literally says the same thing:

''girl'' (0:14 in the video)

- ''musume''

''I simply love young girls.'' (1:36 in the video)

- ''musume''

 

[GeneralP123]

We don't need fake Japanese translator here, we can hear what they are saying;

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/about-blackbeard-calling-bonney-girl.65073/

Rayleigh literally says the same thing:

''girl'' (0:14 in the video)

- ''musume''

''I simply love young girls.'' (1:36 in the video)

- ''musume''

Oh come on Erkan, why would you doubt the great translation of a person that is in the process of learning japanese?

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

If ''nobody'' care my opinion then don't quote my post ZKKclown, you are the one quoted my post not me. No one cares your ZKK fodder ass opinion.

Last time I checked, Mihawk didn't do anything since then ZKKclown instead become partners with Crocodile and hide behind Buggy. Mihawk is a Zolo victim same as Alber. Perhaps Alber wouldn't be dumb enough to fight with flame off mode and Vista opponent-Croc partner Mihawk can lose to Alber, he postponed vs Vista and Jozu after all he didn't do shit yet.


Ok you changed your statement now, first you said WB wouldn't be an underling, and I showed you he wasn't already. Now you are saying he wouldn't even be on the same ship? Thats not the same thing as being an underling.

My friend he was an underling, but I’m saying EVEN IF he wasn’t, it still isn’t in WB character to ride on a scum ship
So Xebec is solid & good no matter how you wanna circle or nitpick on my words
And wait for the future then act surprise by Goda as always that you didn’t see it coming like most people usually do

 

[JoNdule]

Exactly, so I'll stick with the pros, they've been translating many works for decades instead of fake professors who are in the process of learning japanese, just like I said.

The same pros who make mistakes and admit they translate based on their whims?

Stop trying to defend Oda for making Teach say that to Bonney
When he planned that Bonney is a kid

Teach was 39 while listing over 20y.o version of Bonney, and if he used his df on her then he should know that Bonney is a mere kid which makes Teach a pedo

 

[GeneralP123]

The same pros who make mistakes and admit they translate based on their whims?

Stop trying to defend Oda for making Teach say that to Bonney
When he planned that Bonney is a kid

Teach was 39 while listing over 20y.o version of Bonney, and if he used his df on her then he should know that Bonney is a mere kid which makes Teach a pedo

"If" he used, that's my point, he didn't use it, so he didn't know.