Break Week Who will lead the group that was left on the Sunny?
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Go ahead and stop kidding yourself Zoro fanboys. Don’t know why yall are just gonna pretend Sanji would actually be subservient to Zoro or disregard all the prior arcs Sanji has lead his own team.
The real answer: Zoro and Sanji. Matter of fact Sanji is the better leader and takes more initiative. You can wank “vc” Zoro for being at odds with the rest of the crew all you like, he is not a team player and I can’t even think of the last time he lead anyone
The real answer: Zoro and Sanji. Matter of fact Sanji is the better leader and takes more initiative. You can wank “vc” Zoro for being at odds with the rest of the crew all you like, he is not a team player and I can’t even think of the last time he lead anyone
Zoro is already taking charge.
Yeah, well, one is taking command of the situation and making demands, while other is being considered an imbecile and simping idiot who is being "distraction". Seems like you're the only one crying right now because reality is killing your shit head-canon.
There is no wank "VC", anyway, Zoro is the closest thing to SH's VC and it's downright stated in canonical sources. That's all one needs. If anyone is going to take charge and lead the crew when Zoro is present, it's him, as shown vs Oars when even Sanji reluctantly obeyed his orders.
Sanji takes command when Luffy and Zoro aren't present, as he's the #3.
Whenever Luffy isn't present but Zoro is, he's been the one to take command always (unless it matches the specific role/field of other characters. I.e Nami in navigation)
In Alabasta, when Luffy went to fight Croc, Zoro immediately ordered the crew's following actions. Oda even emphasized by drawing him in big panel.
In TB, he took command of entire crew and directed them vs Oars, including Sanji.
In EL, Chopper asked Luffy to take back Usopp when he was standing on the edge, screaming, and once Luffy ignored him, Chopper asked Zoro and no one else.
In FMI, Zoro took command of entire palace and was communicating and negotiating with Fukaboshi. Nami and Usopp were just watching, while the former was requested Zoro to ask for money.
Can come up with many instances, but you get the gist.
Literal Vivre Card calls Zoro the closest thing to VC. Oda himself dubs Zoro and Rayleigh as "#2 and shadow of their captains". We don't need anymore, unless you actually want to stay true to your username lol
Yeah, well, one is taking command of the situation and making demands, while other is being considered an imbecile and simping idiot who is being "distraction". Seems like you're the only one crying right now because reality is killing your shit head-canon.
There is no wank "VC", anyway, Zoro is the closest thing to SH's VC and it's downright stated in canonical sources. That's all one needs. If anyone is going to take charge and lead the crew when Zoro is present, it's him, as shown vs Oars when even Sanji reluctantly obeyed his orders.
Sanji takes command when Luffy and Zoro aren't present, as he's the #3.
Whenever Luffy isn't present but Zoro is, he's been the one to take command always (unless it matches the specific role/field of other characters. I.e Nami in navigation)
In Alabasta, when Luffy went to fight Croc, Zoro immediately ordered the crew's following actions. Oda even emphasized by drawing him in big panel.
In TB, he took command of entire crew and directed them vs Oars, including Sanji.
In EL, Chopper asked Luffy to take back Usopp when he was standing on the edge, screaming, and once Luffy ignored him, Chopper asked Zoro and no one else.
In FMI, Zoro took command of entire palace and was communicating and negotiating with Fukaboshi. Nami and Usopp were just watching, while the former was requested Zoro to ask for money.
Can come up with many instances, but you get the gist.
Literal Vivre Card calls Zoro the closest thing to VC. Oda himself dubs Zoro and Rayleigh as "#2 and shadow of their captains". We don't need anymore, unless you actually want to stay true to your username lol
Except he has. Vs Oars. Sanji followed his lead. Zoro has always taken charge when he's present and Luffy isn't, just like Alabasta or latest chapter- he's one taking command while Sanji isn't. Meanwhile Sanji has always taken charge when both Zoro and Luffy strength there. Because that's how it is; #1, #2 and #3.
Sanji is neither as strong, nor as important and nor as high up in pecking order as Zoro. He'll always be #3. The copper/bronze of SHP. And that's what's unanimously accepted by majority of fanbase, Zoro fans or not, for a reason. Because it's true.
We're not wanking. Reality is just different from this imagination you present. It's same saying as trying to say Zoro is leader over Luffy or stronger than him. Just not happening.
Can go back to Reddit or smthn idk. Hell, even there they are sane enough to know Zoro is #2 in every manner, but instead argue Sanji, the #3, is somewhat close instead of the equal nonsense you're propagating.
- In canonical Vivre Cards by Oda, it says Zoro is the the second strongest and one who takes the role of Vice Captain when needed. Not Sanji.
- In Usopp Gallery, DIRECTLY written by Oda, he personally chose and dubbed art of Rayleigh and Zoro as #2s of their crew and shadow of their captains. Zoro is the Rayleigh parallel according to Oda, not Sanji.
- In manga cover page, Oda put Ray with other #2s and in SBS, he said that page was about combat ranking.
Sanji is neither as strong, nor as important and nor as high up in pecking order as Zoro. He'll always be #3. The copper/bronze of SHP. And that's what's unanimously accepted by majority of fanbase, Zoro fans or not, for a reason. Because it's true.
We're not wanking. Reality is just different from this imagination you present. It's same saying as trying to say Zoro is leader over Luffy or stronger than him. Just not happening.
Can go back to Reddit or smthn idk. Hell, even there they are sane enough to know Zoro is #2 in every manner, but instead argue Sanji, the #3, is somewhat close instead of the equal nonsense you're propagating.
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Yeah no to all that headcanon. The fact that you are obsessively this defensive says it all. Your few examples of Zoro “taking charge” don’t do anything to nullify Sanji’s who has done it with even more finesse.
Sanji and Zoro have always been peer, enjoy wanking that Egghead moment right now, as history dictates: Sanji always will get his moments and shine.
You belong on reddit, it’s an even bigger cesspool for zoro lovers like yourself
Get over it, Zoro has no authority over Sanji and like I said they both will lead.
Sanji and Zoro have always been peer, enjoy wanking that Egghead moment right now, as history dictates: Sanji always will get his moments and shine.
You belong on reddit, it’s an even bigger cesspool for zoro lovers like yourself
Get over it, Zoro has no authority over Sanji and like I said they both will lead.
I provided you with nothing but canonical facts from four different sources directly by Oda. Vivre Card, Usopp Gallery, SBS as well as literal manga cover. All of them, word-to-word, confirm Zoro as de-facto VC, clear second strongest, and confirmed #2 as well as Rayleigh of SHP.
None of what I said in post above is my opinion. I'm just quoting Oda's words and writing. If you don't like it or it goes against what you personally want for the series, go and write him a letter.
And yes, Sanji has taken charge many times when Zoro and Luffy aren't around. I agree. But when both Zoro and Sanji are present, if anyone takes charge, it's always Zoro and almost never Sanji. That's how #1, #2 and #3 dynamic is. #3 is only steering if #2 and #1 aren't there to do so. It's also a fact that has always happened.
That's what he canonically is, after all. Copper to Luffy's Gold and Zoro's Silver. Just like Gol.D Roger, Silvers Rayleigh and SCopper Gaban.
None of what I said in post above is my opinion. I'm just quoting Oda's words and writing. If you don't like it or it goes against what you personally want for the series, go and write him a letter.
And yes, Sanji has taken charge many times when Zoro and Luffy aren't around. I agree. But when both Zoro and Sanji are present, if anyone takes charge, it's always Zoro and almost never Sanji. That's how #1, #2 and #3 dynamic is. #3 is only steering if #2 and #1 aren't there to do so. It's also a fact that has always happened.
That's what he canonically is, after all. Copper to Luffy's Gold and Zoro's Silver. Just like Gol.D Roger, Silvers Rayleigh and SCopper Gaban.
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Obviously Zoro. He already took charge. What is left is to set the picking order.
Imo it will be:
1) Zoro
2) Robin (she was underlined by Oda as the only one taking this seriously beside Zoro)
3) Franky or Sanji? Sanji is the usual Sanji but Franky this time has an arc that could be "his" arc at least for interests (like Eano could have been for Zoro if Oda actually developed a plot line with Zoro and either Kitetsu and named swords / Ryuma / his origins) si he could come before Sanji this time.
4) Franky or Sanji
5) Nami, Usopp etc. Etc.
Imo it will be:
1) Zoro
2) Robin (she was underlined by Oda as the only one taking this seriously beside Zoro)
3) Franky or Sanji? Sanji is the usual Sanji but Franky this time has an arc that could be "his" arc at least for interests (like Eano could have been for Zoro if Oda actually developed a plot line with Zoro and either Kitetsu and named swords / Ryuma / his origins) si he could come before Sanji this time.
4) Franky or Sanji
5) Nami, Usopp etc. Etc.
