Future Events Why Blackbeard, Not Imu, Is Luffy’s True Final Opponent in One Piece
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Imu is already on the throne.
From that position, there were only two real strategies:
BUT NOW:
After Vegapunk’s broadcast, it’s clear: the war is about the One Piece.
That’s why they’re building an army. To shift the balance of the world in their favor and eliminate the competition before someone reaches it.
From that position, there were only two real strategies:
- Find the Road Poneglyphs and claim the One Piece,
- Or destroy all the other contenders.
BUT NOW:
After Vegapunk’s broadcast, it’s clear: the war is about the One Piece.
That’s why they’re building an army. To shift the balance of the world in their favor and eliminate the competition before someone reaches it.
That’s still terrible. That’s going from a much bigger more monumental conflict to…leftovers at best. Why would anyone even want that?
Why would all the Strawhats numerous allies leave them for no reason instead of joining them to easily crush the Blackbeard pirates?
It just wouldn’t make any sense
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It’s not even clear if Imu’s abilities are even from a devil fruit to begin with. Even then, how would BB get past all of Imu’s several minions to even attempt that without getting crushed instantly?
How would that help when he needs time to master the powers? He’d just be a pale imitation of Imu’s 800 years of mastery.
BB would still be badly outnumbered anyway when he only has 1 pirate crew to follow him vs the entire World Government.
That route just doesn’t work without immensely stupid bad writing, including thematically.
If Blackbeard defeats Imu instead of Luffy then that would mean that he was actually Joyboy all along and Luffy is a pretender usurper that comes along after the fact.
If Luffy defeats Imu and brings the dawn but BB tries to interject at the last minute only to lose, then that just makes it a pointless extension to waste everyone’s time
Why would all the Strawhats numerous allies leave them for no reason instead of joining them to easily crush the Blackbeard pirates?
It just wouldn’t make any sense
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It’s not even clear if Imu’s abilities are even from a devil fruit to begin with. Even then, how would BB get past all of Imu’s several minions to even attempt that without getting crushed instantly?
How would that help when he needs time to master the powers? He’d just be a pale imitation of Imu’s 800 years of mastery.
BB would still be badly outnumbered anyway when he only has 1 pirate crew to follow him vs the entire World Government.
That route just doesn’t work without immensely stupid bad writing, including thematically.
If Blackbeard defeats Imu instead of Luffy then that would mean that he was actually Joyboy all along and Luffy is a pretender usurper that comes along after the fact.
If Luffy defeats Imu and brings the dawn but BB tries to interject at the last minute only to lose, then that just makes it a pointless extension to waste everyone’s time
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Do you really think Luffy is the kind of guy who finds the One Piece, suddenly starts caring about ancient mysteries, and then goes, “Alright crew, let’s go take down Imu”?
Even if we pretend that makes sense, Oda drops the biggest secret in the entire story and then just keeps going?
The true history matters to Robin. That’s the end of her journey, not the start of a new arc.
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The last two standing will be Luffy and Buggy.
That way, Zoro can fight Mihawk and fans still get their moment.
All the Straw Hats will fulfill their dreams before Luffy reaches his.
Even if we pretend that makes sense, Oda drops the biggest secret in the entire story and then just keeps going?
The true history matters to Robin. That’s the end of her journey, not the start of a new arc.
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The last two standing will be Luffy and Buggy.
That way, Zoro can fight Mihawk and fans still get their moment.
All the Straw Hats will fulfill their dreams before Luffy reaches his.
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Which allies do you see BBP having? Luffy will have several top tiers (or close to it) at that point:
- Dragon, Sabo & the Revolutionary Army
- Law
- Kidd
- Hancock & the Kuja pirates
- Yamato & Beast pirates remnants
- Wano Scabbards & samurai
- Loki & giants
- Marco & WB pirates remnants
- Katakuri & BM pirates remnants
- SWORD & other good marines
- Rayleigh, Gaban
- Alabasta, Dressrosa, Water 7, Fishmen Island, etc.
- EVERY race and faction will have representation, so you could even expect King for lunarians, Kuma for Buccaneers, etc
The Strawhat alliance would be simply too stacked for a mere Yonko crew. Such a force could only be necessary for the World Government itself and Imu.
It would make no sense for the BBP to be the last standing because Luffy’s group should be able to crush them at a whim so they can face the WG with no other concerns.
I’ve said it before and I’d say it again: the only scenarios that could work for BB would need immense stupidity of brain-melting levels. The kind that would make Game of Thrones Season 8 look like a masterpiece.
- Dragon, Sabo & the Revolutionary Army
- Law
- Kidd
- Hancock & the Kuja pirates
- Yamato & Beast pirates remnants
- Wano Scabbards & samurai
- Loki & giants
- Marco & WB pirates remnants
- Katakuri & BM pirates remnants
- SWORD & other good marines
- Rayleigh, Gaban
- Alabasta, Dressrosa, Water 7, Fishmen Island, etc.
- EVERY race and faction will have representation, so you could even expect King for lunarians, Kuma for Buccaneers, etc
The Strawhat alliance would be simply too stacked for a mere Yonko crew. Such a force could only be necessary for the World Government itself and Imu.
It would make no sense for the BBP to be the last standing because Luffy’s group should be able to crush them at a whim so they can face the WG with no other concerns.
I’ve said it before and I’d say it again: the only scenarios that could work for BB would need immense stupidity of brain-melting levels. The kind that would make Game of Thrones Season 8 look like a masterpiece.
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Yes, that part sounds exactly like Luffy. He doesn't need to care about the whole story behind what he does, but he always does what needs to be done. The bigger picture always exceeds his simplistic motivations, it's nothing new. It never made a difference. Not to mention he might need to go save someone he cares about.
The world isn’t waiting for someone to kill Imu and sit on the throne. It’s waiting for someone to break the system and set it free.
If Teach ends up killing Imu, the last thing anyone will see him as is a liberator. He’s not bringing the dawn, he’s just seizing power for himself.
It’s exactly what happened at Drum. Blackbeard overthrew a corrupt king, and Dalton even called it a “blessing” at first. But he also made it clear: Teach left nothing but destruction behind, because helping them was never his goal.
Both Teach and Luffy are chasing the path of JoyBoy, but in opposite ways. One wants to share freedom, the other wants to own it. That’s exactly why their final clash matters.
That’s what I meant in the thread.
If Teach ends up killing Imu, the last thing anyone will see him as is a liberator. He’s not bringing the dawn, he’s just seizing power for himself.
It’s exactly what happened at Drum. Blackbeard overthrew a corrupt king, and Dalton even called it a “blessing” at first. But he also made it clear: Teach left nothing but destruction behind, because helping them was never his goal.
Both Teach and Luffy are chasing the path of JoyBoy, but in opposite ways. One wants to share freedom, the other wants to own it. That’s exactly why their final clash matters.
That’s what I meant in the thread.
The world isn’t waiting for someone to kill Imu and sit on the throne. It’s waiting for someone to break the system and set it free.
If Teach ends up killing Imu, the last thing anyone will see him as is a liberator. He’s not bringing the dawn, he’s just seizing power for himself.
It’s exactly what happened at Drum. Blackbeard overthrew a corrupt king, and Dalton even called it a “blessing” at first. But he also made it clear: Teach left nothing but destruction behind, because helping them was never his goal.
Both Teach and Luffy are chasing the path of JoyBoy, but in opposite ways. One wants to share freedom, the other wants to own it. That’s exactly why their final clash matters.
That’s what I meant in the thread.
If Teach ends up killing Imu, the last thing anyone will see him as is a liberator. He’s not bringing the dawn, he’s just seizing power for himself.
It’s exactly what happened at Drum. Blackbeard overthrew a corrupt king, and Dalton even called it a “blessing” at first. But he also made it clear: Teach left nothing but destruction behind, because helping them was never his goal.
Both Teach and Luffy are chasing the path of JoyBoy, but in opposite ways. One wants to share freedom, the other wants to own it. That’s exactly why their final clash matters.
That’s what I meant in the thread.
That’s why it’s simply pointless. Do you realize how ridiculously silly that is?
You’d go from Imu ruling for 800 years > BB taking over for a couple of hours > Luffy brings the dawn.
That middle part is just completely superfluous and pointless. Blackbeard will not have enough time to commit half the atrocities that Imu has done…and defeating BB would not account for half the resolutions to plotlines that brings too:
- Imu is the one that committed genocide of the Lunarians till 1 was left
- Imu is the one that committed genocide of the Buccaneers till 1 was left
- Imu is the one that burnt Ohara to the ground and made Robin suffer for 20 years.
How does defeating BB resolve any of that? Imu is a greater evil than BB in every respect…so what would be the point of replacing him with a lesser evil for a couple of hours at best???
Is that the dawn that Pedro died for? When Roger told him to wait 20 years ago before Blackbeard even started his own pirate crew?
What were all the prophecies and prayers for then over the past centuries when BB didn’t even come into the scene until a couple of years ago?
Whether you like it or not, this is clearly the direction the story is heading. Blackbeard’s plan, with Lafitte and Catarina Devon, seems to be aimed straight at Mary Geoise. If he’s going to have a showdown with Imu, and I believe he will, then he simply cannot fail. Narratively, this is the most complex path. Of course, it would be simpler to just have the final clash with Imu, but that’s not what Oda is writing. And honestly, I think it’s way more interesting this way.
Nope. The direction is the opposite.
BB is set to clash with Luffy to become Pirate King, and since only 1 of them can win that’ll likely be the end of his story.
He went after Law for Poneglyph rubbings and he has Pudding to read them for him. He’s heading for Raftel and a clash with the other Yonko. He’ll likely take out Shanks along the way which will be the highlight of his career.
As WB said, Teach is not the one that Roger is waiting for. Only Luffy fits, so only Luffy can use the treasure at Raftel, armed with knowledge of the past from the previous Joyboy to bring the dawn and overthrow the terror that has ruled for 800+ years.
The whole world and all the races will rejoice. It is not Teach that The Lunarians have spent centuries waiting for…nor the Buccaneers have been dancing in imitation of long before BB was even born.
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Yes, as they are both D’s. Only 1 of them can be Joyboy though.
As Vegapunk’s speech said, among the D’s is Mu- (and then it got cut off).
BB is set to clash with Luffy to become Pirate King, and since only 1 of them can win that’ll likely be the end of his story.
He went after Law for Poneglyph rubbings and he has Pudding to read them for him. He’s heading for Raftel and a clash with the other Yonko. He’ll likely take out Shanks along the way which will be the highlight of his career.
As WB said, Teach is not the one that Roger is waiting for. Only Luffy fits, so only Luffy can use the treasure at Raftel, armed with knowledge of the past from the previous Joyboy to bring the dawn and overthrow the terror that has ruled for 800+ years.
The whole world and all the races will rejoice. It is not Teach that The Lunarians have spent centuries waiting for…nor the Buccaneers have been dancing in imitation of long before BB was even born.
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Yes, as they are both D’s. Only 1 of them can be Joyboy though.
As Vegapunk’s speech said, among the D’s is Mu- (and then it got cut off).
