Questions & Mysteries Why do individual strength titles belong only to pirates?

Would it be why?

  • The strongest person in the manga will always be a pirate.

    Votes: 23 85.2%
  • An admiral will never be the strongest in the manga for a period.

    Votes: 16 59.3%
  • Defeating opponents fraudulently makes it difficult to even win a title.

    Votes: 11 40.7%

  • Total voters
    27
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Sasaki Kojirō

#21
Pirates are meant to incite fear, Marines are meant to uphold justice.

The World's Most Dangerous Man should be Akainu according to Oda. But you think the WG would want such a title for one of their protectors.
They are still not outside the scope of world titles that make him inferior to whoever owns them.

Most dangerous Akainu in the world I don't remember that statement probably another lie, the only thing I remember about akainu is Oda saying that Kaido is stronger than him in an SBS.

Titles are based on individual (WSM)/WSS/WSC achievements and collective how to be Pk ,achievements and this grants you titles, which we accept in the case of:

- An admiral fights against pirates generating achievements for himself which allows him to rise through the ranks.

- The achievements of marines and pirates are public knowledge, as they are published in newspapers accessible for the whole world to read.


Therefore, nothing prevents these people of the world from naming an admiral or creating tales about the achievements and historical strength of an admiral, as is done with pirates.

Garp became known around the world as the hero of the Marines thanks to an achievement he made.


It's quite simple, in the same way that the "evil" called pirates are the terror of the people in the fictional world of One Piece the police should correspond to the height being the "heroes", but it turns out that the EVIL subjugate with their extraordinary exploits the little girl police who fight them.
 
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#23
They are still not outside the scope of world titles that make him inferior to whoever owns them.

Most dangerous Akainu in the world I don't remember that statement probably another lie, the only thing I remember about akainu is Oda saying that Kaido is stronger than him in an SBS.

Titles are based on individual (WSM)/WSS/WSC achievements and collective how to be Pk ,achievements and this grants you titles, which we accept in the case of:

- An admiral fights against pirates generating achievements for himself which allows him to rise through the ranks.

- The achievements of marines and pirates are public knowledge, as they are published in newspapers accessible for the whole world to read.


Therefore, nothing prevents these people of the world from naming an admiral or creating tales about the achievements and historical strength of an admiral, as is done with pirates.

Garp became known around the world as the hero of the Marines thanks to an achievement he made.


It's quite simple, in the same way that the "evil" called pirates are the terror of the people in the fictional world of One Piece the police should correspond to the height being the "heroes", but it turns out that the EVIL subjugate with their extraordinary exploits the little girl police who fight them.
VC said Akainu has the highest attack power. Thus he is the most dangerous.

When did Oda say Kaido > Akainu ....
 
#24
There’s no indication The WG/Navy have any say in who’s declared worlds strongest whatever. If Akainu or whoever was actually Worlds most dangerous man. What exactly are they doing to change that narrative? inverse hes
 
#25
WSM (World's Strongest Man) - Whitebeard.

WSC (The Strongest Living Creature in the World)- Kaido.

WSS (The strongest swordsman in the world.) - Mihawk.



It happens that only pirates receive the highest individual power titles in the manga, that is, they are those with the highest percentage of obtaining an individual strength title. It is always a pirate, and this is simply unfair to akainu fans, why akainu for me is the strongest in the world but he has:



0 - rumors about his strength above other characters.

0 - Popular sayings about your strength above other characters.

0 - titles about your strength above others.

And I simply put akainu above the One Piece characters based on my hunch.

It doesn't just apply to akainu, Kizaru, Fujitora, Green Bull, they have 0 titles man and that's insane.

@Erkan12 @Monster Luffy @MonsterKaido @Hanzo hattori @Tejas @Swallalala @Wildfire Kaios @Kerkovian @Seraphoenix @GeneralP123
It look like Green Bulls Hype hit you hard huh?
 
#27
World strongest man is legit title .

World strongest creature is rumor title as sky island is fake .
‘Name world government or marine called kaido as strongest creature other than king of beasts.
‘Lion is king of beasts in real life. Elephant neg diff lion.

‘’Is kaido stronger than IM ?

World strongest swordsman is legit title but no one actually care to complet other than vista and zoro.
‘By milhawk feats on your logic, single admiral >milhawk
yikes u said the wsm is a legit title but noone competes for the wss title except vista and zoro meanwhile we have seen more people striving for wss title in comparison to wsm title

+ that kaido's title analogy is downright stupid af , u are comparing real life to a manga , i myself believe kaido can be weaker than some characters in the current story but the reason is that he doesnt has an actual title like the wsm or wss not the lion and elephant example .
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admirals can kinda have the title of being the strongest force in the navy but the range of that is only the marines and not the entire world like wsm or wss .
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#28
VC said Akainu has the highest attack power. Thus he is the most dangerous.

When did Oda say Kaido > Akainu ....
You're the one saying he's the most dangerous, not the VC.

But unlike you I won't disagree that Akainu can be more dangerous than others in a fight, but Kaido is the hardest to defeat in the world (chapter 997) kaido is harder to defeat than Akainu, for others, kicking akainu's ass and defeating him is easier than defeating kaidou.


There are many statements in this manga that place akainu as inferior to Kaido. One is the SBS that Oda talks about GEAR 5, another is the SBS that Oda talks about :"My mother is stronger than Akainu". There are a lot of statements and data that we have putting Akainu as inferior to Kaido in this manga, I don't know if you missed them as this is something you don't like at all.

Meanwhile Akainu has 0 dice that put him above any higher level in One Piece.
 
#29
because they dont want those fraud titles, how are the "world strongest man" and "worlds strongest creature" doing rn, oh yeah both are dead, and to magma at that :suresure:
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#30
because they dont want those fraud titles, how are the "world strongest man" and "worlds strongest creature" doing rn, oh yeah both are dead, and to magma at that :suresure:
Was information about Kaido's death confirmed or stated in any manga panels?
I really hope he died after spending 7 days (70%) of the fight Akainu had with Aokiji, submerged in magma while unconscious after receiving the most attacks in the series (was already seriously injured before plunging into magma).

Because if he doesn't die under these conditions... Akainu is a shitty little bitch.

We are not afraid if Kaido and Bm die under these circumstances, but I can feel the hidden fear of LARINES fans if KAIDO is resurrected after all the things he's been through, which I've mentioned before.
 
#33
You're the one saying he's the most dangerous, not the VC.

But unlike you I won't disagree that Akainu can be more dangerous than others in a fight, but Kaido is the hardest to defeat in the world (chapter 997) kaido is harder to defeat than Akainu, for others, kicking akainu's ass and defeating him is easier than defeating kaidou.


There are many statements in this manga that place akainu as inferior to Kaido. One is the SBS that Oda talks about GEAR 5, another is the SBS that Oda talks about :"My mother is stronger than Akainu". There are a lot of statements and data that we have putting Akainu as inferior to Kaido in this manga, I don't know if you missed them as this is something you don't like at all.

Meanwhile Akainu has 0 dice that put him above any higher level in One Piece.
Having the highest attack power does make you the most dangrous tho. He should have that title...but he doesnt because hes a marine.

You explictily said theres an SBS stating Kaido > Akainu. Where is that ?
 
#35
Well this so called "not the "strongest individual", Sakazuki, is going to be fighting that particular person who defeated Kaido. Much less against that particular person who is likely going to be even stronger than when he defeated Kaido. And when he does and gives Luffy a challenge then we know Sakazuki then would have beaten the Kaido of now. But who cares. Strongest creature and admirals can NEVER have the absolute titles, right?
 
#36
Well this so called "not the "strongest individual", Sakazuki, is going to be fighting that particular person who defeated Kaido. Much less against that particular person who is likely going to be even stronger than when he defeated Kaido. And when he does and gives Luffy a challenge then we know Sakazuki then would have beaten the Kaido of now. But who cares. Strongest creature and admirals can NEVER have the absolute titles, right?
What are your top 15 strongest characters?
 
#38
What are your top 15 strongest characters?
First 5 are not in order and excluding Kaido:

1.) Dragon
2.) Mihawk
3.) Sakazuki
4.) Teach
5.) Kizaru (Saka is slightly stronger though)

6.) Kuzan | Shanks | Ryokugyu | Fujitora
7. Luffy | Zoro
8.) Ben Beckman | Shiryuu | Weevil (luls)
9.) Big Mom
10.) Katakuri | King | Vista | Marco | CP0 bowler hat dude | Ivankov | Burgess | Kid | Law
11.) Kuma | Doffy |
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#39
Having the highest attack power does make you the most dangrous tho. He should have that title...but he doesnt because hes a marine.

You explictily said theres an SBS stating Kaido > Akainu. Where is that ?
He should have that title...
According to you right?!

Here is the Sbs along with the numerous facts:
An overwhelming outlier!!!
This is the strongest man alive!!!


An overwhelming aberration!!!
This is the strongest pirate alive!!!


An overwhelming aberration!!!
This is the strongest creature alive!!!





"Akainu can't beat me" is the interpretation of what Kaido is saying here for you who only play something that suits your schedule .


The age difference between Kaido and Akainu is small and Kaido is called the strongest by King, King puts Kaido above Akainu.


JOYBOY is the only one who can beat Kaido, current characters alive can't, akainu can't beat Kaido because he's just not JOYBOY, with Kaido saying this directly and King claiming Joyboy will never show up because Kaido is simply too strong to be defeated.



Kaido is the pinnacle of strength has become the embodiment of One Piece's strength something that Akainu never was and never will be, is treated as inferior in strength here compared to kaido the embodiment of strength.





D: Odacchi!! In the sbs from volume 82 you told us how to escape from Akainu, bears, ghosts and the like. But when I try to do this before my angered mother I'm just beaten up... Is my mother stronger than Akainu? P.N. Star Fairy
O: You better watch out! you're being too brash! A mother is the strongest living being in the world, even stronger than Kaido!! Don't you dare do it again! But, you know, your mother loves you more than anyone else.
Kaido literally destroys akainu.







Oda used the word 'Saikyō Seibutsu (最強 生物): which translated as The Strongest Biological Being / The Strongest Creature Among All Beings. Seibutsu includes all living things in the world, including humans. The reason why free manga sites misspell Kaido's title is because the English word "Creature" has plural meanings, but in the original scan there is no ambiguity because the word 'Seibutsu' is the one being used, which is why Kaido was not given the title "Strongest Man" or anything like that, because he is simply not human.

Kaido's title isn't ambiguous at all in the japanese version, his title 100% include humans.

You can do a quick research on what Seibutsu mean:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/せいぶつ#Japanese
living thing, life, organism, creature .

https://www.kanjijapanese.com/en/dictionary-japanese-english/seibutsu
seibutsu creature 2. seibutsu living things.

The ambiguity only come from people reading the English chapter and assuming the word "creature" is to be understood in the animal sense.

In japanese it clearly mean Kaido is the strongest living organism/thing and quite obviously humans are living things.

Kaido's title 100% put him above any human alive in the series, the only way Kaido isn't the strongest character is if his title is fake in the first place or if someone surpass him in the future.






Kaido: "I heard that, Straw Hat !!! Do this ... I accept your challenge !!!
I will show you the largest army in the world !!! ".

The word used here is a bit complicated, since KAIDO uses the term:, which essentially
means greater "military resource". This term is commonly used to refer to an asset powerful enough to help win a war,
be it an army, weapon or other asset. However, the word can also refer to an individual who is such an asset
fundamental in the sense of power / skill, to be more precise with you MARINE HQ, kaido is literally referring
himself as the "most powerful in the world", or something literal like "the strongest military asset in the world", which is definitely not a light statement, he believes without a doubt being the strongest living creature in the world!



KAIDO did not limit his words only to ONIGASHIMA or his organization as emperor, the titles of greatest military power of the admirals are restricted only to the navy they don't apply to the rest of the world.
Romance ACE puts KAIDO above Whitebeard, who beat AKAINU even weaker.

According to some information collected by Skull from the Spades Pirates, Whitebeard is the strongest pirate in the world.
But the author of this novel says that it is not easy to define the word "stronger".
Skull loves anything about pirates and collects pirate merchandise. He believes that Kaidou is the strongest in the 1 to 1 fight.
He adds that Kaidou is the strongest creature. He wouldn't die even if you tried to kill him. NOVEL DO ACE VOL.2

The number of statements that Akainu have claiming their strength over someone are: 0.
So looking at the countless data we have, it's easy to define which of the two is stronger unless you can't read.

And the point here is not simply because the Marines don't have titles, this is something that is just a coup to get where I want to go, which is the fact that they remain in the scope of world class titles and declarations, in a nutshell, they are weaker.

A swordsman at navy headquarters didn't get the WSS title, it's not because he can't, it's because he's weaker.
 
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