Questions & Mysteries Why do people keep cheering for Kaido?

#1
This entire arc the fanbase has been praying for their daddy kaido to win everytime. From the first time kaido one shot luffy, "ErMaHgErD BaByShAkE!!!, tHis Is tHe pOwEr oF A yoNkO HuE HuE!!!" Everyone celebrates again once kaido beats luffy on the rooftop..."IF iTs A 1v1 bEt On KAiDo HuE HuE!!!", and then celebrate again once blue scarf sneaks luffy so kaido can win again. But when luffy goes gear 5 and starts winning..."AsSpUlL AnD PlOtArMoUrS". And now that luffys about to win the fight yall dont want it to end and ready to call it trash lmfao. It is that people have something against luffy? Is it because people realise that luffy becoming this strong means the series may end sooner than people think? Or maybe its because people are just downright obsessed with yonkos, because the majority of people wanted big mom to beat kid and law too, and are still salty about it to this day. And then there's the whole bunch of wierdos that pray for the raid to fail, even this late in to the arc.
 
#4
This entire arc the fanbase has been praying for their daddy kaido to win everytime. From the first time kaido one shot luffy, "ErMaHgErD BaByShAkE!!!, tHis Is tHe pOwEr oF A yoNkO HuE HuE!!!" Everyone celebrates again once kaido beats luffy on the rooftop..."IF iTs A 1v1 bEt On KAiDo HuE HuE!!!", and then celebrate again once blue scarf sneaks luffy so kaido can win again. But when luffy goes gear 5 and starts winning..."AsSpUlL AnD PlOtArMoUrS". And now that luffys about to win the fight yall dont want it to end and ready to call it trash lmfao. It is that people have something against luffy? Is it because people realise that luffy becoming this strong means the series may end sooner than people think? Or maybe its because people are just downright obsessed with yonkos, because the majority of people wanted big mom to beat kid and law too, and are still salty about it to this day. And then there's the whole bunch of wierdos that pray for the raid to fail, even this late in to the arc.

- the fight gets boring since its dragging and repetitive but without proper focus and without moving the plot forward, but instead blatant recycles the previous rounds without any clear depiction on the structure of Luffy vs Kaidou power play.

- A cycle of powerups that Luffy received doesnt actually even matter in winning the rounds of the fight or gaining an upper hand from Kaidou in certain aspects, when it should be.

- A cycle of loss that Luffy received doesnt actually matter since this cycle doesnt develop Luffy's perspectives or problem-solving capabilities regarding the way he fights, when it actually should act as not only power progression, but also character development.

- Kaidou especially is proportionally lacking of innovative ways in fighting techniques, compared to the length of the fight itself. Adding the dragging and monotonous vibe.


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- Because when Luffy is unreasonably strong, its plot armor. But when Kaidou is unreasonably strong, "its not plot armor and Kaidou just built different". There is double standard.

- And also because Luffy and Kaidou are now both immeasurably stronger than their favorite, whoever it is, then Luffy vs Kaidou is garbage.
 
#9
- the fight gets boring since its dragging and repetitive but without proper focus and without moving the plot forward, but instead blatant recycles the previous rounds without any clear depiction on the structure of Luffy vs Kaidou power play.

- A cycle of powerups that Luffy received doesnt actually even matter in winning the rounds of the fight or gaining an upper hand from Kaidou in certain aspects, when it should be.

- A cycle of loss that Luffy received doesnt actually matter since this cycle doesnt develop Luffy's perspectives or problem-solving capabilities regarding the way he fights, when it actually should act as not only power progression, but also character development.

- Kaidou especially is proportionally lacking of innovative ways in fighting techniques, compared to the length of the fight itself. Adding the dragging and monotonous vibe.


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- Because when Luffy is unreasonably strong, its plot armor. But when Kaidou is unreasonably strong, "its not plot armor and Kaidou just built different". There is double standard.

- And also because Luffy and Kaidou are now both immeasurably stronger than their favorite, whoever it is, then Luffy vs Kaidou is garbage.
you have layer out criticisms for the fight, and i agree about the fight being a bit dragged/repetitive. I have my own things that i dont like about the fight, but thats not what im asking about. Im not asking why people think the fight is bad, im asking why people keep wanting kaido to win
 
#10
you have layer out criticisms for the fight, and i agree about the fight being a bit dragged/repetitive. I have my own things that i dont like about the fight, but thats not what im asking about. Im not asking why people think the fight is bad, im asking why people keep wanting kaido to win
Imo its especially about my last two points that made some people want Kaidou to win:cheers:
 
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#13
I guess because people realized how retarded the power creep will become and they will have to bow down and apologize to Naruto fandom for making fun of power creep during the 4th Ninja War.

Luffy went from barely leaving alive from the battle against a Commander to what appears to be defeating "sTrOnGeSt cReAtUrE aLiVe".

It's not even about the Raid failing Morj enthusiast but about the overall plot and continuity. Oda completely shits on everything he set up.


For example. I root for specific moment to happen but on the other hand I know how retarded as fuck this arc has been and in reality Kaido alone should finish the alliance before the dinner next day.
 
#14
I guess because people realized how retarded the power creep will become and they will have to bow down and apologize to Naruto fandom for making fun of power creep during the 4th Ninja War.

Luffy went from barely leaving alive from the battle against a Commander to what appears to be defeating "sTrOnGeSt cReAtUrE aLiVe".

It's not even about the Raid failing Morj enthusiast but about the overall plot and continuity. Oda completely shits on everything he set up.


For example. I root for specific moment to happen but on the other hand I know how retarded as fuck this arc has been and in reality Kaido alone should finish the alliance before the dinner next day.
Power creep =/= Power up.

If you think about it, before awakening Luffy really only trained 1 powerup. ACoC came naturally as a result of that training. There was no training needed for ACoC.
 
#18
- the fight gets boring since its dragging and repetitive but without proper focus and without moving the plot forward, but instead blatant recycles the previous rounds without any clear depiction on the structure of Luffy vs Kaidou power play.

- A cycle of powerups that Luffy received doesnt actually even matter in winning the rounds of the fight or gaining an upper hand from Kaidou in certain aspects, when it should be.

- A cycle of loss that Luffy received doesnt actually matter since this cycle doesnt develop Luffy's perspectives or problem-solving capabilities regarding the way he fights, when it actually should act as not only power progression, but also character development.

- Kaidou especially is proportionally lacking of innovative ways in fighting techniques, compared to the length of the fight itself. Adding the dragging and monotonous vibe.


---

- Because when Luffy is unreasonably strong, its plot armor. But when Kaidou is unreasonably strong, "its not plot armor and Kaidou just built different". There is double standard.

- And also because Luffy and Kaidou are now both immeasurably stronger than their favorite, whoever it is, then Luffy vs Kaidou is garbage.
the other double standard is the people that hate on luffy getting powerups will happily eat up any powerup that kaido or big mom get. Saw no one complain about big mom suddenly being able to heal her bones + make herself bigger. And now people are praying to dear god that kaido has an awakening. Kaido could get 10 powerups and people would love it
 
#19
Probably dumb zoro fans , and yonko fans .

Luffy beat up every main villain on every arc. Kaido is no different .

Heck Enel is called God and he think he is all powerful and all knowing god. Therefore Enel > all in one piece.

If we are in sky island arc today , most people say Enel neg diff crocodile like fodder. Enel has his final form similar to kaido only to get defeated by luffy punch .

Same luffy need gear 2 and gear 3 to defeat rob lucci .

Does EL luffy arc need gear 2 and 3 to defeat Enel if people think Enel > rob lucci ?

Only things I have problem is advanced coc from luffy and luffy awaking his fruit . No training need for luffy.
‘But luffy pull up gear 2 and 3 without training or explanation. Was luffy fight IQ is higher than average fighter ? Not like goku trained to get ssj3.I am fine with flashback training or training arc to explain luffy power.


People denying powercreep in one piece are stupid or their first reading shouen manga. Who is to deny powercreep ?

After wano arc is over, luffy will fight Blackbeard and akainu and end up be extremely difficult fight for him.

King is shinning example of powercreep because he is more durable than kaido cause zoro cut kaido just fine but still have hard to cut king and need power up to defeat him.

Group battle argument dont work if someone overpowered luffy punch like katakuri overpowered luffy punch.
It prove katakuri > doflimingo even doflimingo face group battle while katakuri have 1 vs 1 battle.
 
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