Character Discussion Why do you think ZBoys are in such denial about Green Bull having a black blade?

[EmperorKinyagi]

Shanks outright stated what GB was doing. He was trying to nip the buds of the New Gen as they were exhausted from accomplishing a massive feat

That’s basically a Yonko swooping after two other Yonko fight it out. GB knew what he was doing and he didn’t deny it, in fact he retreated


The time span became irrelevant as soon as Shanks stated they were still exhausted. Recovery time heavily varies depending on the feat


There’s no twisting Shanks’ words I agree. The Alliance was to some degree weakened and still in bandages. Goofy only woke up recently and began eating


Not sure what you are trying to prove here

My point is that GB was going to fight the whole Alliance cuz he knew they were exhausted from taking down two Yonko

He was mad that they destabilized the whole world so he had justification in doing so

It’s not that complex. Shanks even checks upon Kidd’s health before fighting him seriously. Shanks is the honorable type of guy and he was not about to let GB swoop in to defeat the Alliance in recovery mode, irrelevant of whether he actually could or not

This is the same shit that Shanks did in MF, he stopped Kaido from going and taking out either side

“Shanks”
“honorable”

Bro he ratted to the Gorosei about a fellow pirate. He’s trash

 

[moreha9685]

“Shanks”
“honorable”

Bro he ratted to the Gorosei about a fellow pirate. He’s trash

That's Pranks, bro.

 

[Ven437]

“Shanks”
“honorable”

Bro he ratted to the Gorosei about a fellow pirate. He’s trash

Well he is a total bitch when it comes to BB only. Wouldn’t expect any less from the Yonko who waited until two big shots above him were taken down

I also genuinely think it could be his twin brother the silhouette swordsman in that one panel

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Well he is a total bitch when it comes to BB only. Wouldn’t expect any less from the Yonko who waited until two big shots above him were taken down

I also genuinely think it could be his twin brother the silhouette swordsman in that one panel

He also sniped Barto with his back turned 😭

 

[Hiragaro]

Then it's just a matter of time before it will be acknowledged in the manga?

And yes, considering the other two black blades were explicitly addressed in the manga and hyped up, if Greenbull has a black blade it would be addressed too.
Black blade is relevant, if it wasn't clearly you all wouldn't be jumping around so much and be spamming countless threads and posts. Saying the sky is blue isn't.

Don't you find it weird, that Oda would go out of his way and make GB's blade clearly the color Black? He could have simply made it white like any other sword? Don't you think? Why make it the same color as the 2 other super rare and special blades, when it's not meant to be special?
Makes no sense.
If a character would use CoC and knock fodder out, but nobody would say he used CoC would you also question it?
And how is the color only ''similiar''? It's literaly Black...
A black blade is highlighted by it's Black color - GB's blade is black - like it doesn't get more obvious lmao

And people not commenting on it is not an argument. Tashigi is a sword nerd and Zoro literaly put shusui in her face and she didn't mentioned it.
As far as i remember Kinemon also didn't instantly see it.
GB didn't used his sword yet and the Scabbards had more than enough to worry about than trying to check out his sword.

 

[L57]

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I did and I think we are just looking too much into it. It doesn't look like a sheath to me based on design.

Also, we do have white/grey shading drawn on the edges in the manga for yoru as well.

Now I am quite confident that at some point in the manga oda would definitely comment on Ryo sword so we would 100% get the confirmation but as of now - it's a black blade

thats not oda clown

 

[Malio]

Lol, even after the fourth confirmation

Right "Confirmation"

 

[Dragon777]

Right "Confirmation"

Yeah, It's what normal people call twice manga, then official volume, then VCs (official Databook) then official colored manga .

 

[Malio]

Yeah, It's what normal people call twice manga, then official volume, then VCs (official Databook) then official colored manga .

Never stated to be one in the manga, wasn't coloured by Oda, wasn't stated in the sbs or vivre card. They ain't normal people, they're just desperate admiralrats .

But don't let me stop the desperate cope. Keep hyping up black blades

 

[Leadership101]

Zoro hate is insane.

 

[Dragon777]

Never stated to be one in the manga, wasn't coloured by Oda, wasn't stated in the sbs or vivre card. They ain't normal people, they're just desperate admiralrats

And that again, with the swordsisters comical denial

Instead we have a black Blade in the manga (twice), confirmed in volume; then in an official Databook Oda himself quoted as a Canon source of information and then even the colored manga.
Luckily I have It all there for you:

Ryo full image in manga:

VC:

Official coloring:

 

[Malio]

And that again, with the swordsisters comical denial

Instead we have a black Blade in the manga (twice), confirmed in volume; then in an official Databook Oda himself quoted as a Canon source of information and then even the colored manga.
Luckily I have It all there for you :

Ryo full image in manga:

VC:

Official coloring:

And not 1 mention of a black blade. Not in the manga, sbs or vivre card. You'll see an admiral use awakening before fraudbull is ever stated to have a BB.

Don't stop the cope though yeah?

oh and thanks for proving my point .

 

[Dragon777]

And not 1 mention of a black blade. Not in the manga, sbs or vivre card. You'll see an admiral use awakening before fraudbull is ever stated to have a BB.

Don't stop the cope though yeah?

oh and thanks for proving my point .

No, thanks to you again for proving the swordsisters are a literal meme

What an metldown this Is lol.

 

[Hamlette]

No, thanks to you again for proving the swordsisters are a literal meme

What an metldown this Is lol.

That's not a black blade.............................that's a blade that just so happens to be African American, stop the cope.

 

[Gyro]

Zoro hate is insane.

1- no personality
2- worst most childish fanboys

no wonder ?

 

[Cruxroux]

1- no personality
2- worst most childish fanboys

no wonder ?

1) it's called stoic clown , his character idea is a fuckin samurai.
2) lol

Adults liking shounen is scary

 

[Leadership101]

1- no personality
2- worst most childish fanboys

no wonder ?

Lemme guess you're a fluffy or Sanji fan? 😂😂
If we had more characters like Zoro Blackbeard and akainu in manga it would be great.

 

[Cruxroux]

Or maybe you don't need to be super powerful to forge a Black Blade if you are not driven by agenda. The official color is black so it's a Black Blade.

Bruh anime would barely make a blunder this big.
Not only that anime isn't even canon.

But in a land of samurai , zoro spectating , an admiral with black blade is not known at all.

His main skill set is not even swordsmanship.

 

[grey matter]

Bro the black blade is shown in the manga, there’s no “visually similar” thing, it’s a blade that is black, which is what a black blade is.

He’s an admiral named after a famous Swordsman holding a black blade, there is no ambiguity in this. It genuinely feels like even you see it’s a black blade, but are just refusing to accept it because you don’t want Ryokugyu to have one for some reason.

Because there are plenty of reasons to doubt it, you know.

Grey matter is a cool and reasonable guy so I do not understand the position, but remember than most zoro fans have the intellectual capability of a 6 year old.

I've already given the reasons:

say it could just be visual similarity.

My counter argument is other stuff in verse which wouldn't make sense if Greenbull was strong enough to forge a black blade:
- zero indication that his main fighting style is swordsmanship, didn't use it even once and instead fought fully with his DF (flip GB by Fujitora, and at least I can see arguments that he could have a black blade, whose swordsmanship is even integrated to his DF usage)
- scabbards didn't comment on it
- shocked by Shanks' haki and got reduced to base. You think this would happen to someone with strong enough haki to forge a black blade? Mihawk would have this reaction, when he snubs Shanks to his face?
- him not negging Morley in base instead of complaining about constraints


And again, my problem isn't anyone theorizing that it's a black blade.
People come up with tons of theories. My problem is dudes treating it as a fact, and sperging out against anyone who disagrees with them.

There are many events that don't make sense if Greenbull forged a black blade.

I have seen some comments of him just having a black blade, but not having forged it. In which case, I don't see the narrative reason at all; why would the author pull that off at this point?

Or maybe you don't need to be super powerful to forge a Black Blade if you are not driven by agenda. The official color is black so it's a Black Blade.

Whose alt are you?

Anyway, you might be able to create excuses for Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks not having black blade. But there is no wiggle room for Oden, when his own father mentioned about it.
You need to be stronger than Oden at least in the base.

Oden can casually one shot Morley.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I've already given the reasons:


There are many events that don't make sense if Greenbull forged a black blade.

I have seen some comments of him just having a black blade, but not having forged it. In which case, I don't see the narrative reason at all; why would the author pull that off at this point?



Whose alt are you?

Anyway, you might be able to create excuses for Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks not having black blade. But there is no wiggle room for Oden, when his own father mentioned about it.
You need to be stronger than Oden at least in the base.

Oden can casually one shot Morley.

Grey i simply do not understand.
Why is it drawn exactly like shusui if it's not a black sword?
I am not asking why it doesn't make sense for you, because there are plenty of things that do not makes sense in One Piece.
Why is it drawn like shusui twice if it's just a normal sword?