Questions & Mysteries Why does Luffy not teach his crew about Haki?

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Cruxroux

#45
In theory, but then you have Franky and such lol.
Who were never considered ship fighter ig...
That spot be given to luffy and zoro only...
Thry do have abilities to fend off a few set of people though...
He works as a ship wright.
 
#46
He has to be a Haki master to begin with.
It's not even a year properly since bro started using Haki.
Rayleigh and Mihawk have years of experience.
WB knows about it too , What did he teach ace?
Have you never heard of the "Learning by Teaching" method?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_by_teaching

The monster trio could of been teaching the rest of the crew Haki while simultaneously learning themselves how to better apply it. Heck they could learn some interesting discoveries of Haki from the other Straw Hats that they themselves may not be privy to.

And it's not a few people suddenly learned how to use Haki out of the blue. Somebody had to be the pioneer to teach themselves to learn Haki. So where did the idea that only a master can teach Haki come from when most, if not all things, don't necessarily need such a requisite to be achieved.
 
#47
Who were never considered ship fighter ig...
That spot be given to luffy and zoro only...
Thry do have abilities to fend off a few set of people though...
He works as a ship wright.
That Is his role in the sense of task, like saying Sanji Is a cook, but he Is absolutely a fighter in the crew. He has always fought plenty, from Cp9 to PXs, from Senor to Sasaki.
 
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Cruxroux

#49
Have you never heard of the "Learning by Teaching" method?
We don't know if it will work with Hakii.


The monster trio could of been teaching the rest of the crew Haki while simultaneously learning themselves how to better apply it. Heck they could learn some interesting discoveries of Haki from the other Straw Hats that they themselves may not be privy to.
Haki blooms in battle , Let that be CoO (Coby) , CoC (Ace , Luffy).
Ussop unlocked it during a battle.
Another thing being , They are already at the peak of ot.
Luffy knows all the haki form + 3 Advanced forms
Zoro knows all the haki form + 2 Advanced forms
Sanji have two basic forms.

Zoro and luffy has nothing more to learn.
One has to be extraordinarily good at using haki to be a master.
Only examples of them are
- Rayleigh
- Mihawk
- Garp
- Dragon


Why do you think , other characters don't go teaching haki , Kata didn't teach anyone haki , and choose to protect them himself , instead of letting them learn and protect themselves...

On surface haki feels like an easy concept but
We know the level of Fishmen Island Zoro and luffy.

That too took them like 2 years to learn it and to this date they are trying to master it.


And it's not a few people suddenly learned how to use Haki out of the blue. Somebody had to be the pioneer to teach themselves to learn Haki. So where did the idea that only a master can teach Haki come from when most, if not all things, don't necessarily need such a requisite to be achieved.
You may awaken it but it will never get stronger unless you train with it more.
We know kidd have CoC , bro is a clown with no haki feat.
Law heavily relies on DF. Again barely any haki feat.

Just awakening and letting it be won't help you.
Ussop awakened it but nobody knows when did he use it again.
Zoro and luffy can't teach Ussop because that thing comes naturally to them.
 
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Cruxroux

#50
That Is his role in the sense of task, like saying Sanji Is a cook, but he Is absolutely a fighter in the crew. He has always fought plenty, from Cp9 to PXs, from Senor to Sasaki.
I agree with that but look at it yourself.
Sanji is limited to haki system a basic fodder is limited to.
Only two kind of basic Haki. Though his is stronger than fodder's ofc.

But luffy and zoro got all three forms of Haki + Advanced form and only two to be given formal training about haki...

Also I forgot Robin can use haki too , and again a haki master Dragon/Sabo taught her.

You need to be a haki master to teach someone else haki.
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
#51
It's partly because Oda forgot, and partly because Luffy is a retard.

Zoro is far too focused on his own training (maybe would train others if they asked or joined in, but won't force others).

While Sanji is too much of a dickhesd to train the lads, and doesn't want the ladies to train and hurt themselves.
 
#53
The monster trio came out of the timeskip knowing both CoA and CoO.

Oda should've at least given the middle trio one type of haki. Robin spent 2 years with the Revolutionaries, Brook is an ancient Swordsman. Those two would've made sense as coming out of the TS with a single type of haki.

The weak trio should've gotten the same treatment as Usopp, awakening haki during one of their crucial moments.

Consider the fact that even fodder marines know how to use CoA in the new world. The future pirate king's crew should be able to do at least one type of haki.

Sanji should not be considered Haki user imho. Forget Marine fodders, gifters and pleasures have way better Haki LOL. Without daddy genes, Sanji would get Ideo treatment from Dellinger 😂😂
 
#54
We don't know if it will work with Hakii.
That's fair, though that due to the complete lack of showcasing the intricacies of Haki outside of fights rather than it simply being impossible.
Haki blooms in battle , Let that be CoO (Coby) , CoC (Ace , Luffy).
Ussop unlocked it during a battle.
Another thing being , They are already at the peak of ot.
Luffy knows all the haki form + 3 Advanced forms
Zoro knows all the haki form + 2 Advanced forms
Sanji have two basic forms.
Actually Ussop awakened CoO through an intense situation of his friend Luffy being in danger of being turned into a toy, not through battle, and there are people like Aisa are simply born with the ability to use it.

When they say Haki blooms in battle, that particular phrase means that Haki gets stronger in battle, not awaken, as Rayleigh was applying thar phrase to Luffy, who has already awakened his Haki.

The many fodder marines and Amazon Lily warriors have Haki capabilities, and they are weaker than even the weak trio of the Straw Hats. There's no way all of those individuals only awakened their Haki through an intense fight, especially the Amazonians who don't seem to get into battles that often thanks to the many advantages they had for most of the story. Rather it's more logical that they've gotten these capabilities through intense training, something that the Straw Hats could definitely set up if they were more than willing to do so.
Zoro and luffy has nothing more to learn.
One has to be extraordinarily good at using haki to be a master.
Only examples of them are
- Rayleigh
- Mihawk
- Garp
- Dragon
I'm certain there are things they could learn if this was a different manga, but given how simple Zoro and Luffy are, and the extreme simplicity of Haki, that's fair, but one doesn't need to master of a craft to coach someone else if the teacher has a good understanding of the craft.
Why do you think , other characters don't go teaching haki , Kata didn't teach anyone haki , and choose to protect them himself , instead of letting them learn and protect themselves...
Because he took on the role of protector and never thought to ever teach anyone how to use Haki in the 1st place. More meta reason is that Kat's Future Sight is what made him stand out from anyone else in Whole Cake Island, and he was the only confirmed user at that point in time. Anyone else having such capabilities would take away from Kat's uniqueness and mystique. Though with hid mastery over CoO, he should be able to teach his army and siblings CoO given how long he's been a commander for.
On surface haki feels like an easy concept but
We know the level of Fishmen Island Zoro and luffy.

That too took them like 2 years to learn it and to this date they are trying to master it.
Sure, but they do have the fundamentals down, and have memorized the teachings their teacher have used on them, so if anyone of the Straw Hats were willing to learn, they could figure something out.
You may awaken it but it will never get stronger unless you train with it more.
We know kidd have CoC , bro is a clown with no haki feat.
Law heavily relies on DF. Again barely any haki feat.

Just awakening and letting it be won't help you.
Ussop awakened it but nobody knows when did he use it again.
Zoro and luffy can't teach Ussop because that thing comes naturally to them.
All of that's true. Kidd and Law both heavily depend on their Devil Fruits. And although bring in battles will bloom Haki most effectively, doing intense training for Haki will help as Rayleigh has shown and stated. If Ussop consented to go through whatever it took to use his talent to the fullest, and if the Monster Trio ever showed themselves to undertake training him, he'd definitely improve his CoO under them. All Rayleigh did was swing and hit Luffy's head with a stick that didn't even injured him. Surely one of the MT are capable of setting such a simple exercise up.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#58
Yonko Luffy is too busy saving the world, I think Sanji or Zoro should teach them that, after all I think they would be able to explain and teach better than Luffy, being good at something does not necessarily mean that you are also the best at explaining/teaching it.
 
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