General & Others Why does no one ever talk about Law being defeated by Doffy? Someone 10 times if not 100 times weaker than Shanks.

[MagnetoEustassKidd]

Doffy's not ten times weaker than Shanks.

Post automatically merged: Apr 16, 2023

He only surpassed him post-awakening, so it hasn't been long.

Gear 4th Dressrosa Luffy stomps Doffy and gets 1 shotted by Shanks. Shanks would have an even easier time against Doffy.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I really don't like BM haters.
How do y'all see her knock out Kidd and Law temporarily ( Keep in mind Hybrid Kaido's Thunder Bagua couldn't do the same ) without even using Advanced Haki and say she has 0 AP.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Gear 4th Dressrosa Luffy stomps Doffy and gets 1 shotted by Shanks. Shanks would have an even easier time against Doffy.

Whether you can get one-shotted or not depends on your endurance and the level of attack used to KO you. Luffy essentially one-shotted Cracker but he wasn't ten times weaker than Luffy. He wasn't even weaker than Luffy when he lost to him. Zoro is more or less a one-shotted King too, but he's not worth five YC1s or something.

 

[ZenZu]

I really don't like BM haters.
How do y'all see her knock out Kidd and Law temporarily ( Keep in mind Hybrid Kaido's Thunder Bagua couldn't do the same ) without even using Advanced Haki and say she has 0 AP.

She literally went to town on them and still couldn't keep them down. They got back up seconds after she stopped wailing on them.

For all we know she attacked them 100 times, their crews were begging her to stop and she was out of breath from how much energy she expended. It's not even remotely impressive as far as AP is concerned.

Btw Kaidou's TB achieved the exact same feat, as Law was temporarily knocked down, except it was one move.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

I really don't like BM haters.
How do y'all see her knock out Kidd and Law temporarily ( Keep in mind Hybrid Kaido's Thunder Bagua couldn't do the same ) without even using Advanced Haki and say she has 0 AP.

No one said she has 0 AP. I only said she's not as good as her fellow top tiers. Kaido had a relatively fresh Law at his mercy after one hit. Compare that with 10s if not 100s of attacks Big Mom landed on him.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Law was about to fall asleep from a couple punches from her Idk what y'all mean, her AP is great.

 

[ZenZu]

Law was about to fall asleep from a couple punches from her Idk what y'all mean, her AP is great.

There are plenty of high tiers who deal more damage than Big Mom. Idk why you're trying to pass these basic feats off as something impressive in the top tier realm.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Law was about to fall asleep from a couple punches from her Idk what y'all mean, her AP is great.

Going white-eyed after getting stunned by an attack isn't a sign of hitting your limits. They're normal humans for OP standards, so even pre-skip characters would make them go white-eyed with a proper hit. This is Law who got beaten to death just a couple of minutes before eating those punches btw.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Going white-eyed after getting stunned by an attack isn't a sign of hitting your limits. They're normal humans for OP standards, so even pre-skip characters would make them go white-eyed with a proper hit. This is Law who got beaten to death just a couple of minutes before eating those punches btw.

"Normal humans"
Same normals humans who can take attacks from Kaidou lol
Y'all are ridiculous. BM was fighting Kaidou for 3 days and gave Killer and Kidd smoke on the roof top with just her homies, but she's suddenly trash because Law and Kidd had plot armor?

 

[ZenZu]

"Normal humans"
Same normals humans who can take attacks from Kaidou lol
Y'all are ridiculous. BM was fighting Kaidou for 3 days and gave Killer and Kidd smoke on the roof top with just her homies, but she's suddenly trash because Law and Kidd had plot armor?

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Kaidou in one attack left Law temporarily knocked down. Something which took Big Mom dozens upon dozens of attacks to replicate. And this was AFTER he had taken the damage from Kaidou's attack.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

"Normal humans"
Same normals humans who can take attacks from Kaidou lol
Y'all are ridiculous. BM was fighting Kaidou for 3 days and gave Killer and Kidd smoke on the roof top with just her homies, but she's suddenly trash because Law and Kidd had plot armor?

By normal humans, I meant they don't have abnormally tanky bodies, like, Big Mom, Kaido, King, Oden, Momo, Sanji, or even Jinbe for that matter. They'd feel pain from even pre-skip level attacks, but they simply endure them. I already explained that it's similar to how pre-skip Luffy damaged Garp, Magellan, and Blackbeard.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Kaidou in one attack left Law temporarily knocked down. Something which took Big Mom dozens upon dozens of attacks to replicate. And this was AFTER he had taken the damage from Kaidou's attack.

Law wasn't even really down, and Kaidou had:
Hybrid Form
Kanabo
ACoC
Armament ( possibly )
BM:
Homies
Armament ( sometimes )
That's all BM used and she was still working em.

 

[ZenZu]

Law wasn't even really down, and Kaidou had:
Hybrid Form
Kanabo
ACoC
Armament ( possibly )
BM:
Homies
Armament ( sometimes )
That's all BM used and she was still working em.

Are you listing all the reasons Big Mom has ass AP compared to Kaidou or what? I'm confused.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Are you listing all the reasons Big Mom has ass AP compared to Kaidou or what? I'm confused.

What, because she's not using what Kaidou's using?
Big Mom didn't even use Advanced Haki on them lol.

 

[ZenZu]

What, because she's not using what Kaidou's using?
Big Mom didn't even use Advanced Haki on them lol.

So you're saying Big Mom who was taking years off her lifespan, powering up, and feeling pain that she hadn't felt in forever, huffing and puffing so much she damn near needed an IV drip, is taking it easy?

Yea ok.... you're on that ssj copium deluxe.

Kidd ate her TB equivalent in Ikoku without any issues btw.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

So you're saying Big Mom who was taking years off her lifespan, powering up, and feeling pain that she hadn't felt in forever, huffing and puffing so much she damn near needed an IV drip, is taking it easy?

Yea ok.... you're on that ssj copium deluxe.

Isn't she one of the strongest Emperors?
Not to mention she was fighting equal with Kaidou for 3 days.
She's fine.

 

[Zaretball]

Doffy became irrelevant after Cracker proved to be stronger than him.

 

[ZenZu]

Isn't she one of the strongest Emperors?
Not to mention she was fighting equal with Kaidou for 3 days.
She's fine.

She has great durability + endurance. I see no inconsistencies with her lasting days against Kaidou's non lethal attacks.

Her ability to deal damage/knock characters out is objectively asscheeks for her tier.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

She has great durability + endurance. I see no inconsistencies with her lasting days against Kaidou's non lethal attacks.

Her ability to deal damage/knock characters out is objectively asscheeks for her tier.

I don't really care.
She knocked P1 out with one hit.
Knocked out Kidd and Law for a couple seconds without even using Haki.
Her AP is good.

 

[ZenZu]

I don't really care.
She knocked P1 out with one hit.
Knocked out Kidd and Law for a couple seconds without even using Haki.
Her AP is good.

Ofcourse you don't care, it's called being a fanboy. Knock yourself out.