Questions & Mysteries Why does Oda give Sanji such little hype?
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And plenty instances in the story have put Zoro and Sanji strong as a pair. Again, if Luffy and Zoro were a duo then we wouldn't be talking about the monster trio but the monster duo. And "the leaders of the New Generation" is, so far, a concatenation of improvisations and how things "turned out to be", starting by the fact that the Supernova as a group that defined the "New Generation" was made up out of the blue in a couple of hours short before sending their introductory chapter to editors (as Oda himself stated) using a bounty mark that he came up with in Jaya. It's a group ultimately based on pretimeskip bounty, not strength.
The reason why we're talking about a monster trio, and the reason why characters talk about a monster trio, is that Sanji isn't so significantly weaker than Zoro nor Zoro is so significantly close to Luffy so they can indeed be grouped as a strength top. If this wasn't the case, then it would be the monster duo to begin with because, in the big picture, no standard would actually exist to justify Sanji being put alongside Luffy and Zoro as a monster instead of with the rest of the crew.
The reason why we're talking about a monster trio, and the reason why characters talk about a monster trio, is that Sanji isn't so significantly weaker than Zoro nor Zoro is so significantly close to Luffy so they can indeed be grouped as a strength top. If this wasn't the case, then it would be the monster duo to begin with because, in the big picture, no standard would actually exist to justify Sanji being put alongside Luffy and Zoro as a monster instead of with the rest of the crew.
Cool so you write off being in the Worst Generation as unimportant but fodder characters calling Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji is supposed to be the best portrayal ever.
The "M3" dynamic was sort of there pre-TS but it hasn't been remotely explored since FMI. The Luffy/Zoro dynamic is much more important and is why they're the only ones on the rooftop while Sanji is below the rooftop with the rest of the Straw Hats
The "M3" dynamic was sort of there pre-TS but it hasn't been remotely explored since FMI. The Luffy/Zoro dynamic is much more important and is why they're the only ones on the rooftop while Sanji is below the rooftop with the rest of the Straw Hats
Cool so you write off being in the Worst Generation as unimportant but fodder characters calling Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji is supposed to be the best portrayal ever.
The "M3" dynamic was sort of there pre-TS but it hasn't been remotely explored since FMI. The Luffy/Zoro dynamic is much more important and is why they're the only ones on the rooftop while Sanji is below the rooftop with the rest of the Straw Hats
The "M3" dynamic was sort of there pre-TS but it hasn't been remotely explored since FMI. The Luffy/Zoro dynamic is much more important and is why they're the only ones on the rooftop while Sanji is below the rooftop with the rest of the Straw Hats
The monster trio dynamic stays strong enough for it to still work in terms of Sanji mocking Zoro over bounties or Zoro being salty at Luffy's comment on his strength. The reason why the dynamic doesn't seem so present post-timeskip is that we had literally no arc with the Arabasta/Enies Lobby structure so we can make a proper measurement with direct 1-1 versus.
And you still haven't addressed why it's the monster trio and not the monster duo nor why Oda has put so much effort during decades on creating both direct and indirect comparisons between Zoro and Sanji and not only between Luffy and Zoro if these characters are meant to be understood as a duo of fighters significantly stronger than the rest. Why chose Oda to create the concept of "monster trio" and put Zoro and Sanji against the main villain's second and third, to the point of giving an explicit ranking with the CP9, if in actuality it's Luffy and Zoro and then such a significant gap?
Oda could have easily excluded Zoro from the Supernova/Worst Generation by making it captains only and no one would have batted an eye. He included Zoro for a reason. It doesn’t matter that it was a spontaneous reason. In the universe of One Piece, Zoro is a part of the leaders of the New Generation while Sanji isn’t. That is a massive difference in portrayal that can’t just be ignored because you don’t like it.
That bounty gag means nothing especially because Sanji himself acknowledged he only got his bounty thanks to his family. Like I said, the “M3” argument sort of worked in pre-TS arcs like Enies Lobby but things have been different since the end of Thriller Bark. There’s a reason Sanji broke his leg against a Doffy executive while Zoro neg-diffed another. The Zoro/Sanji argument thing is just a gag and has nowhere the near the same implications as the portrayal of captain/right hand man that Luffy and Zoro get.
Luffy/Zoro is a more consistently portrayed and explored dynamic than the “Monster Trio”.
That bounty gag means nothing especially because Sanji himself acknowledged he only got his bounty thanks to his family. Like I said, the “M3” argument sort of worked in pre-TS arcs like Enies Lobby but things have been different since the end of Thriller Bark. There’s a reason Sanji broke his leg against a Doffy executive while Zoro neg-diffed another. The Zoro/Sanji argument thing is just a gag and has nowhere the near the same implications as the portrayal of captain/right hand man that Luffy and Zoro get.
Luffy/Zoro is a more consistently portrayed and explored dynamic than the “Monster Trio”.
World wide poll , Big news morgans make a comment how the monster trio got broken or something like that
Edit here it is from @EthenBoy
(https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ers-the-waiting-room.5/page-7058#post-1519865)
Edit here it is from @EthenBoy
(https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ers-the-waiting-room.5/page-7058#post-1519865)
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