Speculations Why Dragon never made any single move on his own ?

Dragon


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#1
I find it interesting how we hate and meme on Dragon's lack of action. When Whitebeard was doing the same with Teach during years and let Ace search for him on his own. This even during the War for Ace's rescue, he only moved at the very very end when he was stabbed by one of his own.

At the time "Whitebeard isn't making any move, it's odd" was in the text -- characters were saying it. As for Dragon, no one in the manga mentions it, only us through reading comprehension. But we're not entirely wrong about it.

Now let's do some mental gymnastics about Dragon and let's defend him:

Dragon is the leader of the Revolutionnary army. His founder. If he is captured/killed, it's the whole movement that dies. Hence why he can't make bold moves YET. Just like Newgate at the war. He must make a move at last resort only. Inside he is fighting against his Monkey D personality that pushes him to do dumb stuff. He took his time for decades to establish his army over the seas. He has overcome himself and is now a stoician, not epicurian like Garp and Goofy.


Where do you think Dragon must sit his ass in the power-level tree to get his hype back ?
 

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#2
It‘s a failure on Oda’s part.

He is obsessed with keeping Dragon a secret until the time comes to reveal his power in what will no doubt be a big cool moment. But this refusal to even attempt to utilise him until then is doing more damage to the character than I think Oda realises. I believe that Oda thinks the fans are still happy with Dragon’s ominous appearances since that’s what he did pre-skip. But the reality is the fans are getting sick of it, primarily because he’s letting other members of the RA do things but keeps holding Dragon back.
 
#3
It‘s a failure on Oda’s part.

He is obsessed with keeping Dragon a secret until the time comes to reveal his power in what will no doubt be a big cool moment. But this refusal to even attempt to utilise him until then is doing more damage to the character than I think Oda realises. I believe that Oda thinks the fans are still happy with Dragon’s ominous appearances since that’s what he did pre-skip. But the reality is the fans are getting sick of it, primarily because he’s letting other members of the RA do things but keeps holding Dragon back.
It’s true that the man doesn’t have one single clash. But introducing underlings before the boss is a classic narrative tool :kayneshrug: « Hey look at the underling, now imagine the boss »

In a way, Oda could have drawn him doing something. Like with flashbacks or when he had to face Blackbeard. But he couldn’t unhype Teach. And the Revolutionary have always been end game material. It’s Void Century explanation through Laughtale first, and then take down the CDs with all the help possible.
 

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#4
It’s true that the man doesn’t have one single clash. But introducing underlings before the boss is a classic narrative tool :kayneshrug: « Hey look at the underling, now imagine the boss »

In a way, Oda could have drawn him doing something. Like with flashbacks or when he had to face Blackbeard. But he couldn’t unhype Teach. And the Revolutionary have always been end game material. It’s Void Century explanation through Laughtale first, and then take down the CDs with all the help possible.
I think the problem was Reverie.

There’s no problem with the RA being introduced early and going off on missions to Dressrosa and the likes. But Reverie was a moment where people really expected Dragon to make a huge impact, since it was their big declaration of war against the World Gov.

Him not going there was a massive disappointment.
 
#6
It’s true that the man doesn’t have one single clash. But introducing underlings before the boss is a classic narrative tool :kayneshrug: « Hey look at the underling, now imagine the boss »

In a way, Oda could have drawn him doing something. Like with flashbacks or when he had to face Blackbeard. But he couldn’t unhype Teach. And the Revolutionary have always been end game material. It’s Void Century explanation through Laughtale first, and then take down the CDs with all the help possible.
>It’s true that the man doesn’t have one single clash.
>When he had to face Blackbeard

Do you think RA simply said hello to BBP, packed their bags and sailed away from Baltigo?
 
#8
It‘s a failure on Oda’s part.

He is obsessed with keeping Dragon a secret until the time comes to reveal his power in what will no doubt be a big cool moment. But this refusal to even attempt to utilise him until then is doing more damage to the character than I think Oda realises. I believe that Oda thinks the fans are still happy with Dragon’s ominous appearances since that’s what he did pre-skip. But the reality is the fans are getting sick of it, primarily because he’s letting other members of the RA do things but keeps holding Dragon back.
Don’t usually slander oda as he’s the goat but yeah gonna have to agree on this one. The mysteriousness of dragon was cool but we’re so far into the story I’d rather them not show him at all if they’re gonna show him doing nothing
 
#9
Off Panel doesn’t count. This encounter is all speculation
If this happened off panel, this does not mean that we cannot assume the minimum outcome, since we have a lot of information necessary for this.

On Baltigo Island at that time there were Dragon, Sabo, Koala and soldiers. Laffitte and Shiryu went to help Burgess, and Burgess also asked them to call Doc Q for help (to cure his severe wounds, and if Doc Q came, then Stronger was there) and Teach.

Thus, at least all these characters participated in the battle. Dragon, Sabo, Koala, soldiers from one side and Teach, Shiryu, Laffitte, Doc Q, Stronger from other side(they would probably need soldiers and a couple of ships to pick up tons of weapons). They had a battle, no matter short or long, the destroyed landscape of the island and buildings tells us this, Teach would not just hit the buildings, since Burgess told him about the tons of weapons that were stored there, they were also unlikely to let Sabo go, since he had the fruit they needed.

It's not enough to just be smart and tactical to get away from Teach's pursuit (even Law and his entire team couldn't do it), since he has Yami Yami and Gura Gura, you must have the necessary level of strength to repel such an attack and get away without casualties.
 
#10
Say Dragon makes a move. Do you think the WG would let it slide? Or does every action have a reaction? The WG could easily make an example out of any RA affiliated island. That would demoralise the people of the world and they might figure it being better to be under WG if they want to stay safe.

I firmly believe Dragon has the above in mind. He isn't about winning a battle, he is trying to win the war. And to do that he needs to take down as many big shots as possible in one fell swoop. Egghead is actually perfect in that sense, he can weaken the WG significantly and recruit new RA islands at the same time as the word spreads. Or he might think even taking out the Gorosei isn't enough. It might need to be Gods Knights or Imu himself.
 
#11
Oda has simply done great disservice to the character. Introducing him so early (all the way in Loguetown) to have him do nothing since then besides “…” just deadens the interest people have in his role.

Even Shanks with limited screentime has done impactful things and had impactful scenes. The best Dragon has gotten is the ASL flashback and nothing in current time besides “…” and being worried unnecessarily.

And finally, Oda added insult to injury by writing that Sabo is already more infamous than him. One of the worst things that Oda has done.
 
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#13
After Nika very few things can hype us.

Kizaru was one of them.

Gorosei wasn't.

Only hype I see it will be from Zoro, Mihawk, Teach and MAYBE Imu.
 
#14
I think Oda hyped him up too early TBH. It’s weird that Dragon hasn’t done much of anything despite being the leader of the Revolutionaries.

He’s a boring character… :catsweat:
 
#18
He is non-fighter who relies on his organization non-stop.
He wouldn't make his move until he has enough man power since he can't fight himself.
 
#20
Oda simply doesn't know how to write. It has created an incredible world, original powers, and many moments and secrets are good, but it is already weighing down, and the way it is carrying out certain events and actions that many characters take is taking its toll. Dragon, Mihawk, the admirals, yonkous, gorousei, they all seem like idiots, because of Oda.
 
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