Speculations Why Eustass Kid will never be Luffy's cheerleader

#1
So I've heard a lot of talk about this ever since WCI, with Luffy getting a bounty way higher than any other supernova and becoming strongest pirate outside of the yonko.

Basically, people say that Luffy is so much stronger than Eustass Kid that Kid will now become Luffy's cheerleader like Law and Capone. I think there are many reasons why this will never happen but I think that regardless of powerlevel, one thing is for certain. Eustass Kid is undoutably an antagonist.

If not for the fact that he kills civilians, if not for the fact that he's one of the only supernova who have shown explicit interest in one piece and being the pirate king, there is one integral plot point that prevents Kid from being Luffy's ally permanently. That is his relationship to Shanks. Eustass Kid has a rivalry with the red hair pirates and wants shanks dead.

Shanks, or one of the other red hair pirates, took his arm over the timeskip. In addition, we saw that the main purpose of his pirate alliance with Apoo and Hawkins was to kill Shanks. This won't go away after wano. Oda is clearly setting up Kid to be one of the main players in the downfall of Shanks.

So what does this mean? Does this mean that Eustass Kid will be an equal of Luffy's? Probably not, the only one who was ever on par with Roger was Whitebeard and Eustass Kid is far from being another whitebeard. However, he is easily the Shiki of the worst gen.

The fact that he is a CoC user and has another supernova serving under him clearly sets him apart from any of the other supernova in terms of relevance. I believe Oda even stated that he had very big things planned for him.

Here's what I think we can expect at the bare minimum.
  • he will become a top tier at one point in the story
  • he will directly rival Luffy and will probably be defeated by him, even if its only as a warm up fight for a bigger main antagonist
  • he will create a yonko tier crew
The last one is a point I wanted to touch on. post-wano, Luffy will be seen, alongside blackbeard, as the closest person to pirate king. If he could forge an alliance with wano or germa, in terms of military power, he would be a much bigger threat than shanks, who mostly seeks stability rather than to turn the world on its feet.

Post-wano there would also be a ton of pirates who are really left without a roof over their head, so to speak. Hawkins, Apoo, and any of the beast pirate remnants, wouldn't be able to survive without the support of a yonko- like pirate. This is where I see Eustass Kid coming in. I think he will create a giant armada, similar to Shiki, with the goal of opposing Luffy. An anti- Luffy alliance.

anyways this is just my opinion. feel free to leave your own thoughts.
 
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#2
1. He is never Luffy's cheerleader. Oda portrayed Luffy and Kid as rivals 3 times.
- Sabaody Archipelago
- Udon
- Onigashima Raid

2. Both of them have CoC.

3. Both of them have first mate who are also part of WG.

4. Has the highest bounty among supernova before TS and at the start of TS had the highest bounty before Law and Luffy bounty surpassed him.

5. Before TS when defeating marine fodders he has an attack that matched Luffy's G3 and in Onigashima radi he had an attack that matched Luffy's G4.

6. Fought BM, Red Hair Pirates and lost to Kaido so Oda can decide how strong he is since we haven't seen his full strength.

7. Oda also said he has big plan for Kidd.
 
#4
Luffy and Kid are not rivals, imo.
I believe Kid is a foil to Luffy.
If you are unfamiliar with the term, the role of a foil is that of a character who exists to highlight an aspect of another character.


Why did Luffy have to train before entering the NW?
Because Kid didn't, and he lost an arm.

Why did Luffy's alliances with Law and Capone do better than Kid's alliance with Apoo and Hawkins?
Because Kid's alliance was built on self-serving interests.

Why isn't Luffy's bounty the highest on Sabaody?
Because Kid killed innocent civilians.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
#7
Its Kidd SHOULDN'T be Luffy's cheerleader. Saying he WONT is kinda questionable given Oda's track record. Kidd should not under any circumstances place Luffy above himself. If anything he should turn on Luffy and go full villian/anti-villain when the yonko are beaten.
 
#8
Its Kidd SHOULDN'T be Luffy's cheerleader. Saying he WONT is kinda questionable given Oda's track record. Kidd should not under any circumstances place Luffy above himself. If anything he should turn on Luffy and go full villian/anti-villain when the yonko are beaten.
Unless you want him gone permanently, he should not stand in Luffy's way. Everybody that tried gets completely obliterated by Luffy. Mean utter decimation of his crew and ending up dead or in jail.

The best course of Kid is too go his own seperate way, gaining strength and not making the same mistake that all other villians in the story have made, which is to cross Luffy.

As Oda has said, Luffy crushes people dreams leaving them utterly decimated, if you are in his way. The only way to survive inthe One Piece world is not to be on Luffy's hit list. Even the World Government is not safe from Luffy's wrath.

Kid is currently the second strognest supernova. Luffy will need mid- high diff, leaning towards high diff to beat him.

Kid is YC1 level currently. With better devil fruit mastery he will be yc1+ level.
 
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Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
#10
Kidd has a better shot than Law at being EoS rival, but even Katakuri honestly.

Still, this is not the time of Kidd yet. This arc won't be the ones for the other nova to shine if that means taking out Kaido, most aren't ready yet.
 
#16
I see Kidd aiming for Luffy's head after Wano,i could see him acquiring an army similar to Shiki and fighting Luffy in a naval Battle.It would be very cool to see the straw hats fighting 1v1 fights on the decks of enemies ships and the Sunny blowing shit up!
 
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