General & Others Why I hate Zoro
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Obviously tho, Zoro isn't built like those guys. Those guys are blatantly the MC counterpart.
With Zoro, it's more "under the radar". He could've been the MC counterpart like those guys, but he isn't.
But if we look at the subtle writing and parallels, it becomes quite clear that Zoro's role, while not exactly Sasuke/Kilua/Vegeta, is similar in more ways than his haters are willing to admit.
- Zoro is the only character other than Luffy to have a global ambition. Haters always point to "but Zoro abandoned his dream in Thriller Bark". No he didn't, it's more of Zoro doesn't want to become WSS if that means Luffy dies. Luffy said pretty much the same thing when it came to Ace - that he wouldn't want to become PK if he can't go save Ace, the regret would be too big. And Luffy did almost completely break down and give up on his dream, when Ace died, Jinbe had to talk him out of it.
- mid gen parallels with Shanks and Mihawk, two characters who are the great rivals of their generation similar to Roger/Whitebeard before them
- Luffy and Zoro are the only two characters having portrayal with those referred to as "Gods" of centuries ago. Joyboy - the sun God, Ryuma - the God of blades.
And in Wano, what "Joyboy" Luffy did was directly compared to the legends on Ryuma. They were also the two characters contrasted with Oden.
- direct contrast with Sun God Nika/Demon God Asura
Oda's writing with Zoro is more subtle than the MC counterparts in other main shounen anime like Vegeta or Sasuke. But that is by design, Zoro is meant to go under the radar. @nik87 put it the best, with Zoro it is "show, don't tell"
But yes, he certainly isn't as important to plot as say Sasuke is.
With Zoro, it's more "under the radar". He could've been the MC counterpart like those guys, but he isn't.
But if we look at the subtle writing and parallels, it becomes quite clear that Zoro's role, while not exactly Sasuke/Kilua/Vegeta, is similar in more ways than his haters are willing to admit.
- Zoro is the only character other than Luffy to have a global ambition. Haters always point to "but Zoro abandoned his dream in Thriller Bark". No he didn't, it's more of Zoro doesn't want to become WSS if that means Luffy dies. Luffy said pretty much the same thing when it came to Ace - that he wouldn't want to become PK if he can't go save Ace, the regret would be too big. And Luffy did almost completely break down and give up on his dream, when Ace died, Jinbe had to talk him out of it.
- mid gen parallels with Shanks and Mihawk, two characters who are the great rivals of their generation similar to Roger/Whitebeard before them
- Luffy and Zoro are the only two characters having portrayal with those referred to as "Gods" of centuries ago. Joyboy - the sun God, Ryuma - the God of blades.
And in Wano, what "Joyboy" Luffy did was directly compared to the legends on Ryuma. They were also the two characters contrasted with Oden.
- direct contrast with Sun God Nika/Demon God Asura
Oda's writing with Zoro is more subtle than the MC counterparts in other main shounen anime like Vegeta or Sasuke. But that is by design, Zoro is meant to go under the radar. @nik87 put it the best, with Zoro it is "show, don't tell"
But yes, he certainly isn't as important to plot as say Sasuke is.
Excuse me sir, a slight correction.
Global ambition is Oda's privilege/special treatment to the Original Trio. Nami wants to draw the world map.
This is why, to balance & contrast those three, among the East Blue Five, Usopp's and Sanji's dreams are made to be so mundane/down to earth and also have fictional/blur/unclear/etc traits.
Global ambition is Oda's privilege/special treatment to the Original Trio. Nami wants to draw the world map.
This is why, to balance & contrast those three, among the East Blue Five, Usopp's and Sanji's dreams are made to be so mundane/down to earth and also have fictional/blur/unclear/etc traits.
I personally like Zoro as a character though he also regressed after time skip like all strawhats, but his fans are just delusional. 
Also we sbould all accept Zoro as a magical sword user since i am sure Wado heighten his Coo like how Enma does to his Coa. People are blaming Sanji for Judges modification which didn't worked till Queen by the way but no one talks about Mythical Zoan and Magical swords.
Also we sbould all accept Zoro as a magical sword user since i am sure Wado heighten his Coo like how Enma does to his Coa. People are blaming Sanji for Judges modification which didn't worked till Queen by the way but no one talks about Mythical Zoan and Magical swords.