Questions & Mysteries Why is it said that Sanji is the fastest and Zoro is slow?
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The reason some fans think Sanji is faster and Zoro is slow is because Sanji is a speed based fighter while Zoro is a strength based fighter.
Fans need to understand just because a character focuses on speed doesn't mean they don't have strength. Same as just because a character focuses on strength doesn't mean they don't have speed.
Zoro is faster. He has greater attack speed, reaction speed and combat speed. Sanji just have better mobility and he can maintain high speed much longer.
Yes, Zoro can hit Sanji. Queen tagged Sanji twice.
Fans need to understand just because a character focuses on speed doesn't mean they don't have strength. Same as just because a character focuses on strength doesn't mean they don't have speed.
Zoro is faster. He has greater attack speed, reaction speed and combat speed. Sanji just have better mobility and he can maintain high speed much longer.
Yes, Zoro can hit Sanji. Queen tagged Sanji twice.
Sanji is only better in movement speed
Zoro have much better reaction speed and Attack speed
And Zoro have fought Hybrid Kaido , Awakened Lucci , Speed mode King , Killer , Awakened Kaku
Sanji have never tag any strong speedster in the new world.
Even Sanji's best attack speed Beefburst only landed coz Queen(non speedster )is chasing prostitute mid fight
We need to see Sanji keep up with another speedster to see his true level
This is exactly what I am talking about
Sanji has done nothing but present a show for Slow Turtle Queen which basically resulted in him needing asthma inhaler. Where as Zoro is perception blitzing some of the fastest characters in the New World one of whom can use Future Sight, one of whom momentarily kept up with Gear 5th Luffy, one of whom reacted to Kaido's Invisible Slashes that blitzed Scabbards.
Sanji has overpowered only fodders with his speed and against Queen his Infrit Jambe was an ambush where Queen wasn't looking at him
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One could argue Long Distance Travel Sanji is faster which has no need in combat.
But Zoro has shown much better Attack Speed : Blitzed Killer (Faster Than Queen), Blitzed Hybrid Kaido (Much Faster than Queen) and his fight Lucci who is basically a speedster, and Blitzed King with Shi Shi Son Son, reacted to speed mode king and overpowered him.
He also reacted to thunder bagua and fully turned his body in a state where he could barely move post Ashura and took Thunder Bagua (A future sight blitzing move) to his chest
Sanji : Surprised Slow Oven, Didn't exactly Blitz Vergo and Ambushed Queen same Queen who couldn't even see Zoro's Slash and Save his gun.
This basically sums it up too
Zoro is overall faster than Sanji
But Sanji is good at traveling long distance
Which makes sense. Sanji and his role as a cook can be supported with his travel speed, if he needs to travel around the world to bring best ingredients to cook for Luffy and Zoro it would help.
Zoro is more combat focused speed. I doubt Sanji has better CoO and Reaction speeds than Future Sight user Hybrid Kaido so Ashura or Shi Shi Son Son are definitely blitzing him. I doubt Sanji's CoO is better than even Killers, who was able to react to Shanks named attack (He got one shot but he could still move fast enough to partially shield Kidd despite surprise attack)
Sanji is simply lacking speed feats on Zoro's level. At least Combat Speed feats
Sanji has done nothing but present a show for Slow Turtle Queen which basically resulted in him needing asthma inhaler. Where as Zoro is perception blitzing some of the fastest characters in the New World one of whom can use Future Sight, one of whom momentarily kept up with Gear 5th Luffy, one of whom reacted to Kaido's Invisible Slashes that blitzed Scabbards.
Sanji has overpowered only fodders with his speed and against Queen his Infrit Jambe was an ambush where Queen wasn't looking at him
@DonWick
@BillSlipton
@Celestial D. Dragon
One could argue Long Distance Travel Sanji is faster which has no need in combat.
But Zoro has shown much better Attack Speed : Blitzed Killer (Faster Than Queen), Blitzed Hybrid Kaido (Much Faster than Queen) and his fight Lucci who is basically a speedster, and Blitzed King with Shi Shi Son Son, reacted to speed mode king and overpowered him.
He also reacted to thunder bagua and fully turned his body in a state where he could barely move post Ashura and took Thunder Bagua (A future sight blitzing move) to his chest
Sanji : Surprised Slow Oven, Didn't exactly Blitz Vergo and Ambushed Queen same Queen who couldn't even see Zoro's Slash and Save his gun.
This basically sums it up too
Zoro is overall faster than Sanji
But Sanji is good at traveling long distance
Which makes sense. Sanji and his role as a cook can be supported with his travel speed, if he needs to travel around the world to bring best ingredients to cook for Luffy and Zoro it would help.
Zoro is more combat focused speed. I doubt Sanji has better CoO and Reaction speeds than Future Sight user Hybrid Kaido so Ashura or Shi Shi Son Son are definitely blitzing him. I doubt Sanji's CoO is better than even Killers, who was able to react to Shanks named attack (He got one shot but he could still move fast enough to partially shield Kidd despite surprise attack)
Sanji is simply lacking speed feats on Zoro's level. At least Combat Speed feats
Kaku was faster than Zoro the entire fight...... He didn't learn about increasing his limbs until well over halfway through the fight... 
To add because speed wasn't a factor for zoro he decided to withle zoros health down by going into cude form and then fire smaller storm legs that bounced from the ceiling back down to the ground. At this time unlike Jabra vs sanji zoro and Kaku were fighting in a much more smaller space and Kaku took advantage of that. And even through all of this zoro was having the upper hand in speed and it was only even when Kaku increased his limbs at the ending of the fight on accident. And even with that increased speed he had to resort to using his swords again along with his storm legs and nose to keep zoro on the defensive
Now with sanji and Jabra fight sanji had to hit Jabra with diable jambe 3 times to get the win and the last two hits he was unable to blitz Jabra and had to capitiliz on getting hit by Jabra so that he could get a clean hit on him lol while zoro cut through kakus strongest attack with his ashura and proceeded to blitz him
Yeah the Sanji is faster than Zoro is a bit of a myth. People are conflating Sanji being demonstrably shown much faster than weaker opponents to him being faster than characters stronger than him. Speed in OP has always been relative to the opponent who is facing speedsters.
Sanji being invisible to Queen or showing speed feat against much weaker opponents doesn't mean he's faster than characters above him. Zoro had already shown invisible type of speed when he fought 100 bounty hunters way back in Baratie arc. People have to understand that Zoro teleporting in the middle of those bounty hunters is relative to what those guys could keep up with and track, it didn't mean Zoro could pull that same stunt against crocodile.
Just because Sanji appears invisible to Queen, in his perspective DOES NOT mean he'd be the same against much stronger characters. Sanji continuously getting his speed feats against slow characters is written like that for a reason. Oda want to highlight Sanji's speed in those instances but to do so he has to use slow characters. He knows it can't be done against fast guys, so he opt to have Sanji fight slower characters.
By fighting canonically known fast characters, Zoro is the one with actual legit speed feats. Feats against the real speedsters. Oda repeatedly has had Zoro fight speedsters and I can never recall it being an issue for him even once.
People have to stop conflating Sanji's speed relative to his opponents who happen to be slow for the most part with him being faster than characters stronger than him. Sanji would appear invisible to Queen for example but that wouldn't be the case with someone like King who would have no issue dealing with Sanji in term of speed. All these speed feats are relative. Kizaru would blitz a bunch of rookie SN on Saobody but wouldn't be able to do so against other Top Tiers.
Sanji speed is special against inferior opponents but wouldn't be anything special to Zoro and the likes.
Sanji being invisible to Queen or showing speed feat against much weaker opponents doesn't mean he's faster than characters above him. Zoro had already shown invisible type of speed when he fought 100 bounty hunters way back in Baratie arc. People have to understand that Zoro teleporting in the middle of those bounty hunters is relative to what those guys could keep up with and track, it didn't mean Zoro could pull that same stunt against crocodile.
Just because Sanji appears invisible to Queen, in his perspective DOES NOT mean he'd be the same against much stronger characters. Sanji continuously getting his speed feats against slow characters is written like that for a reason. Oda want to highlight Sanji's speed in those instances but to do so he has to use slow characters. He knows it can't be done against fast guys, so he opt to have Sanji fight slower characters.
By fighting canonically known fast characters, Zoro is the one with actual legit speed feats. Feats against the real speedsters. Oda repeatedly has had Zoro fight speedsters and I can never recall it being an issue for him even once.
People have to stop conflating Sanji's speed relative to his opponents who happen to be slow for the most part with him being faster than characters stronger than him. Sanji would appear invisible to Queen for example but that wouldn't be the case with someone like King who would have no issue dealing with Sanji in term of speed. All these speed feats are relative. Kizaru would blitz a bunch of rookie SN on Saobody but wouldn't be able to do so against other Top Tiers.
Sanji speed is special against inferior opponents but wouldn't be anything special to Zoro and the likes.
King went invisible against zoro and zoro still tagged him.
Yonji went invisible on sanji even though it's sanji that's the one with the stealth ability lol
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Beautiful since king was not once in speed form when he Blitzed raid suit sanji who was faster than base sanji (before exo skeleton)
Yonji went invisible on sanji even though it's sanji that's the one with the stealth ability lol
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Beautiful since king was not once in speed form when he Blitzed raid suit sanji who was faster than base sanji (before exo skeleton)
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Both Zoro and sanji are fast characters. But zoro’s AP is monstrous which makes up for any lack of speed he might have in a fight (due to injuries lol) but even then he’s hella fast. You could say Sanji is faster but it wouldn’t be by such a large margin to make much of a difference. Besides zoro’s observation haki easily keeps up. I mean discount zoro vs kizaru already showed that speed in one piece by itself doesn’t do much against people highly proficient in observation and have top tier reaction speed.