Speculations Why is Marco even here?

#24
Useless Hypetool.

- Hypetool for Queen’s Plagues
- Hypetool for King’s race
- Hypetool of being bodied by the Calamities
- Hypetool for the “Stars of the Show”

Now he got front row seats to Sanji vs Queen and we all know what his role gon be there.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#26
What do you mean nothing stopping them? Zoro and Sanji would have stopped them in that case too
Yeah but Sanji had that Enies Lobby BS gag all over again. It was for a character moment b/w him & Robin and also setup for the Robin fight. If Marco is to be written out of the arc, Zoro isn't going to the rooftop and Sanji's shenanigans with Black Maria wouldn't happen.

I would actually prefer if Sanji's Black Maria stuff was binned entirely but Zoro's got too many plotlines going on and narrative buildup in this arc to scar Kaido. Hence Marco had to take Zoro's and Sanji's place in stalling King and Queen till their plotlines resolved imo.
 
#28
Yeah but Sanji had that Enies Lobby BS gag all over again. It was for a character moment b/w him & Robin and also setup for the Robin fight. If Marco is to be written out of the arc, Zoro isn't going to the rooftop and Sanji's shenanigans with Black Maria wouldn't happen.

I would actually prefer if Sanji's Black Maria stuff was binned entirely but Zoro's got too many plotlines going on and narrative buildup in this arc to scar Kaido. Hence Marco had to take Zoro's and Sanji's place in stalling King and Queen till their plotlines resolved imo.
Yes, you're right. Basically all it was is just buying time for Zoro's return.

But I'd like to think Marco has a bigger role to play :lusalty:
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#30
Yes, you're right. Basically all it was is just buying time for Zoro's return.

But I'd like to think Marco has a bigger role to play :lusalty:
He's also the first mythical Zoan introduced in the series. Would be kinda weird if we go through the arc that involves Ancient Zoans, Mythical Zoans and even fake Zoans without meeting the OG Mythical Zoan atleast once XD.

He probably is done for this arc, stalling 2 calamities + healing thousands + fighting an equal in King for 40+ minutes while being hard nerfed is more than his paygrade. However I do expect him to come around with the other remnants of the WB pirates during the final war.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#35
Zoro was taken to the roof by Marco. If Marco wasn't there, Zoro would have been free to defend folks from King and Queen, and Sanji would have appeared soon enough to help since he avoided Black Maria anyways.
Then the rooftop fight doesn't happen to start off the raid.

Zoro is having a tough fight with King alone, Marco had the perfect fruit to not only stall two enemies of that caliber but also "heal" people from Queen's plague. Zoro would have to deal with King and Queen 2v1? Basically Oda would have to rewrite all of Onigashima. Oda wanted to start the war off with the iconic 2v5, Yonkou vs New Gen.

This just goes to show you how much of a fix all plug in Marco was. You remove him, Wano looks completely different, Marco solves too many issues by himself alone. Oda didn't want Marco to steal anyone's spotlight, yet he didn't want to make him look bad either. It's essentially a win win for him, he only went down because he fought the top 2 all stars + was healing the entire floor. And yet he did do that, you can add all that to his resume. He showed his strength/ resourcefulness and yet still gave way to Zoro and Sanji without looking bad.

You can't have your cake and eat it, and yet Oda did just that with Marco. He's one of the most irreplaceable characters for Oda in the war.

I think asking more from Marco is a bit much, he might as well hold Luffy's hand to raftel if he does much more than this.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#37
why Big Mom is even here?
Yeah it’s an other good question. BM in Wano was a bad idea.

Instead of giving 50 PU to Luffy make Law and Kid fight Kaido with Luffy, Luffy landing the last blows
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Marco arrival that early is indeed weird. The whole I’ll come later but finally I come on time was really strange

I hoped Marco had an other role in Wano other than stalling King and Queen
 
#40
Oda was planning to have this guy be a part of the arc since Zou.


Although he later hinted that Marco wouldn't be there from the start


Which led a lot of people to speculate that Marco would get there mid arc, appearing when the alliance was doing bad and in need of help.

Except that later Oda clearly changed his plans whatever they were and brought Marco into the raid early



Which led people to think that Marco would defeat King 'cause bird v bird, YC1 v YC1 etc.

It didn't work out.

Then since Zoro replaced him against King and Yamato was given the dog fruit people thought he'd to on the roof for the Momotaro stuff, but instead he's in the dome daydreaming about Red Line Gods.

Keep in mind that up until now he could be written out of the arc easily.

- Stalling BM --> Make BM talk with Pero for longer
- Curing the LF --> Make the poison spread slower so Chopper has enough time
- Stalling King --> Leave King in the background patrolling the sky like he was doing while Queen is kept busy by the live floor (Chopper, Drake, Hyogoro)

So why is he even here?

Does he ultimately go to the roof to save Luffy from another KO? Does he join the fight against BM?

Discuss
Because he’s really popular.

That’s basically it tbh, we might still get some Momotaro payoff later down the line, but he’s basically just here because he’s a hugely popular fan-favourite in Japan and Oda found a place to stick him in as a Whitebeard Pirate
Good question, I have yet to see what his purpose in this arc truly is. I guess it's just supporting the new generation? Stalling? Helping with Zoro transport? Healing?

It wasn't very impactful.
He's a sacrifice for Zoro! I've posted this in another thread but I'll repost it here since this thread is more appropriate for that.👇👇👇
That's because Oda sacrificed a lot, and I mean a lot, just to put Zoro on that Rooftop fight. Just for sake of giving Zoro fans their so much desired Zoro vs Kaido moments, Oda had to:

1. Bring Marco to Wano so that he could stall King and Queen until Zoro comes down from the Rooftop fight.

2. Subsequently making King and Queen look like useless idiots because Marco managed to fight against both of them for quite some time.

3. King doing nothing for some time because Zoro wasn't there to fight him, which once again made king very incompetent compared to other YC.

4. Asspulling the Zou "all curing" juice so that Zoro could be at 100% of his health.

5. Making Marco a mere "stalling tool."

6. Putting useless Killer on the Rooftop fight so that Zoro wouldn't be the only "none captain" on that fight.

7. Rubbing Kid from his feats against Kaido and giving it to Zoro, and subsequently throwing off Kid's long running plot line "of taking revenge against Kaido."

8. Creating a magical sword "Enma" so that Zoro could fight against Kaido.

9. Make King vs Zoro a fast fight because the overwhelming amount of chapters have been spent on the useless character running around and the rooftop fight.

After all of these sacrifices Zoro fans should suck Oda's b*lls for gratitude.
 
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