General & Others Why is Wano hated ?

#61
Pacing is the biggest issue for me...There were really many unnecessary sub plots in the arc , together Oda could have crop atleast 20 chapters worth trash from this arc...
Also priorities....Some minor character who add no value to the story or plot get more screen time than important characters.
There is absolutely no tension i can feel in this war compared to Submit war...
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#62
The unnecessary over-portraying of secondary characters that didn't need to be substantiated as much. Like Tama and a few others, and that happens to constitute a chain by which more and more unnecessary events piled up.
 
#63
Because:
1. First half of part one of Wano we get Luffy vs fodders fight which took 5 or more chapters. While now we have Luffyvs Yonko fight...which made those few chapters have no sence;
2. Big Mom becaming O-Lin, and BMP falling from waterfall;
3. Udon Prison that instead of becaming another Impel Dawn shit, became Luffy's training ground(another filler);
4. Scabbards hurting Kaido who screams loudly have zero sence;
5.SH fights was mostly skipped, no character development at all, it wasn't even in mile close to ennies lobby or arabasta, which is better even now than Wano trash;
6. Jack who have more pannels then anyone and showed nothing;
7. All characters in Wano are clowns...there's no feeling of any dangeri n the air at all, Buggy and Kuro was more dangerous;

WANO IS TRASH,and it is beyond discussion
 
#64
I personally like it to an extent but there are definitely certain things that I didn't like at all.

- Really weak Act 2
- Tama and her only use as a plot device is annoying and Oda should've come up with another method to deal with the gifters
- IF Big Mom doesn't go down this arc which I'm feeling to be the case, she shouldn't have been a part of it
- Straw hat fights other than the Wings and Luffy were trash
- Lack of tension (Though it's improved a little by the CP0 entry and may become even better if the BMP enter somehow)
- Took way more time for the actual war to begun once they entered Onigashima than needed imo
- Even though I liked the Rooftop, turns out that it was pretty much useless and mainly just fan service. Remove it, send everyone directly to the ones they're fighting at this moment and it changes little to nothing.
 
#65
I mean you could read Black Clover Elf Arc and it is just great everything was done in right way. And setup for that arc Elf Arc get from the very beging. Also mostly all characters get character development there, and their opponents didn't became dumb with hurting emthelves. Also Devil wasn't damaged by some fodders and nok oil ne lose memory. Wano<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Elf Arc
 
#66
Too long,too long,too long.
"Uh but the stakes are higher111" who cares! You cant spend 4 years of the readers life on the same villain,its stupid. Especially in a manga about pirates,so a context where you should change location and villains very often,actually!
And Oda wasn't even smart enough to take advantage of the action moving to Onigashima because instead of designing a barbaric realm he just recycled the Japanese atmosphere. There's no way you witness this place and you think of it as the Island of Ogres because it completely feels like an extension of Wano, not the Beast Pirates' territory.
 
#67
I don't hate it tbh, but I don't like it, simply because Oda disrespect his own characters, not as bad as Fairy Tail but still he disrespects them
And he wasted so many things
- Jack one of the all stars : his fight went off panel
- Perospero : also got off paneled
- BM : turned to even more of a joke that she already was : Amnesia, Mama's instinct, Zeus got stolen permanently, almost fell to the ocean from being pushed from the edge of Onigashima due to stupidity, her crew was nowhere to be found and now we have the Marines coming, I won't even be surprised if it turns out that Luci and the other off paneled them to oblivion
- Queen is slowly becoming a joke himself, he fucking shot himself twice like wtf, also where's the viruses attacks? Or poison or whatever, he's the Plague Oda, doesn't he have like Komodo Dragon like bite attack or Gas like breath attack, virus coated swords? Or perhaps Oda just forget it, like how he forgets that Luffy and Sanji has tons of potential but instead Oda choose to go the easy way
- Ryuo, advanced Armament, what is it for again? To hurt Kaido? turns out it's useless and now forgotten after a few chapter of usage
- Tobiroppo's fights are rushed
- Law's crew are just chillin' as if they're on picnic
- Jinbe, wtf is he doing right now again? Nothing
Bastard could ask Marco fly him up and help Yamato or find BM and settle the score
- Franky and Robin could've unlock their Haki, this is a perfect moment for that, but Oda said No, we need more panel for Otama
- Usopp Observation Haki, also the perfect moment for him to actually mastering it bit by bit, idk make him learn from the top 4, but again, No
- Kid's crew unharmed and appears out of nowhere
- Also Otama's existence, the only thing that can redeem this chapter, is by Kaido boro breathing Otama out of existence, reducing her to ashes or King fucking slice her head off, or even better, Big Mom ate her and get 2 DF power
Fuck Otama
 
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