Powers & Abilities Why Mihawk's swordsmanship is the greatest

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

That's naginatamanship not swordsmanship

World's Strongest Naginataman
Weevil is stronger though he's not a naginata man he just uses it to shoot his god Haki.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Winning fights via Swordsmanship..... Neither Zoro or Mihawk are punching people into submission, now are they?

Okay. So the point is that Mihawk is the strongest swordsman because he is able to defeat every swordsman in combat

done

he is not the strongest swordsman because he has a special sword style that is more technical or whatever compared to everyone else
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You understand that swordsmen have different styles

this thread is just me explaining why Mihawk’s is the strongest. Idk why you are raging.

@Monkey D Theories this thread is about you saying their is a power hierarchy in styles which isn’t true

There is no “stronger style”… Zoro wins his fights because he cut his opponent faster than they could cut him… Not because “the three sword style is the better sword style”

As far as we can tell, anyone can do any style and the only thing that matters is whether they are strong or not

Zoro randomly stole Kin’emon’s fire fox style… The scabbards randomly stole Oden’s style… And nothing changed in Either Zoro or the scabbards stealing those styles outside of the the fact that Zoro is stronger than Kin’emon and the scabbards are weaker than oden

the actual styles never changed the outcome of the fights… What changed the outcome of the fights was the strength of the swordsman

Mihawk is the Worlds Strongest swordsman because he can defeat all the other swordsmen… that’s all… He’s stronger than every other swordsman… Not his sword style being stronger… He himself is stronger

also I’m raging about this because Oda disappointed me regarding swordsmanship in Wano and I will not let people try and make up nonsense to excuse Oda’s laziness… too many things about Wano get excused by people here and I will not let this one be one of them

 

[сука]

Shanks' divine departure looks like a function of some sort of barrier

Mihawk's attacks have always been the cleanest of slices. It would be extremely disappointing to see Mihawk using his blade like a glorified broomstick.

Those are just two sides of swordsmanship. Cutting anything vs cutting nothing.

With Mihawk having the top 1 swordsmanship, his "barriers" also have to be on par with Shanks' at the very least.

 

[ZenZu]

Those are just two sides of swordsmanship. Cutting anything vs cutting nothing.

With Mihawk having the top 1 swordsmanship, his "barriers" also have to be on par with Shanks' at the very least.

As a defensive tool, yes.

 

[Rob Luffy]

Your first sentence is a lie… there are no “various types of swordsmanship”

mihawk is the STRONGEST swordsman simply because he is able to defeat the other swordsmen… there is nothing special about him outside of the fact that he would win the fight

there is no further classifications of swordsmanship. There are no types. Nothing separates any swordsman from mihawk besides the fact that they are weaker than him

Cap.

 

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As a defensive tool, yes.

If Mihawk would use barriers to defend against Shank's barriers, would Shanks use cuts to defend against Mihawk's cuts?

 

[ZenZu]

If Mihawk would use barriers to defend against Shank's barriers, would Shanks use cuts to defend against Mihawk's cuts?

That made no sense.

 

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That made no sense.

cope

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Okay. So the point is that Mihawk is the strongest swordsman because he is able to defeat every swordsman in combat

done

he is not the strongest swordsman because he has a special sword style that is more technical or whatever compared to everyone else
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@Monkey D Theories this thread is about you saying their is a power hierarchy in styles which isn’t true

There is no “stronger style”… Zoro wins his fights because he cut his opponent faster than they could cut him… Not because “the three sword style is the better sword style”

As far as we can tell, anyone can do any style and the only thing that matters is whether they are strong or not

Zoro randomly stole Kin’emon’s fire fox style… The scabbards randomly stole Oden’s style… And nothing changed in Either Zoro or the scabbards stealing those styles outside of the the fact that Zoro is stronger than Kin’emon and the scabbards are weaker than oden

the actual styles never changed the outcome of the fights… What changed the outcome of the fights was the strength of the swordsman

Mihawk is the Worlds Strongest swordsman because he can defeat all the other swordsmen… that’s all… He’s stronger than every other swordsman… Not his sword style being stronger… He himself is stronger

also I’m raging about this because Oda disappointed me regarding swordsmanship in Wano and I will not let people try and make up nonsense to excuse Oda’s laziness… too many things about Wano get excused by people here and I will not let this one be one of them

You don't get it. The One Piece World needs a tangible reason to consider Mihawk the World Strongest Swordsman. Regardless if he can beat all other Swordsmen, which I'm not arguing against, that is not what he is recognized for by the World. Swordsmanship, and skill level is a thing. That's what he's recognized for by the people of the World.

 

[HA001]

You don't get it. The One Piece World needs a tangible reason to consider Mihawk the World Strongest Swordsman. Regardless if he can beat all other Swordsmen, which I'm not arguing against, that is not what he is recognized by the World. Swordsmanship is a thing. That's what he's recognized for by the people of the World.

So when zoro beats mihawk with the same technique that he lost with but due to superior haki and strength
What did swordsmanship mean then.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

So when zoro beats mihawk with the same technique that he lost with but due to superior haki and strength
What did swordsmanship mean then.

Just like Mihawk beat Zoro the first time because of his "superior haki?"

 

[HA001]

Just like Mihawk beat Zoro the first time because of his "superior haki?"

Exactly.
Wss is the strongest of all swordsmen. Glad you get it

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Exactly.
Wss is the strongest of all swordsmen. Glad you get it

Except Mihawk didn't even use haki in their first fight.... Smh...

 

[HA001]

Except Mihawk didn't even use haki in their first fight.... Smh...

So why did he teach zoro haki instead of sword skill

 

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So why did he teach zoro haki instead of sword skill

So Zoro can beat Shanks' ass instead

 

[mly90]

Mihawks skill and strength which includes highest levels of al types is reason for his title. His superior skills with the blade and swordsmanship are enhanced by equally good haki you can't separate the two after watching Zoro journey

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

So why did he teach zoro haki instead of sword skill

Seriously? We were told why in the flashback. To protect Zoros Swords so they wouldn't chip or break.

Let me ask you. Zoro knew absolutely nothing about haki preskip. So what exactly was he expecting Mihawk to teach him, when he asked him to train him?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

"There are no swordsmanship styles"

Lol, Zoro has three sword styles, Oden two swords style, etc.

There's obviously many different variations of swordsmanship but Mihawk reigns at the top of swordsmen due to his excellent swordsmanship and strength over any other swordsmen.

 

[HA001]

Seriously? We were told why in the flashback. To protect Zoros Swords so they wouldn't chip or break.

Let me ask you. Zoro knew absolutely nothing about haki preskip. So what exactly was he expecting Mihawk to teach him, when he asked him to train him?

So how did King's sword clad in haki break.

 

[JoNdule]

Being WSS is mainly about cutting skills & feats

Zoro novel gave us hints on how you can be WSS.

It's not about beating swordmen (top ones) or not, since Mihawk didn't do it and Zoro hasn't even been fighting Swordmen in NW (Killer, Pica, King, aren't swordmen)