General & Others Why Roger will always be better than Luffy

#43
Roger and Luffy are the same to me with one not being better than the other really. Besides it's straw hat itself that links the two characters. Any character that wears it seems to be blessed with massive success and luck. Be it former pirate king and conqueror of the Grandine Roger who wore it as a youth, Shanks who's now a Yonko and top tier pirate, or future pirate king Luffy.

So to say Luffy had more luck and has not had to work hard like Roger is a disservice to the story. They both went through difficulties to move towards the goal and both were fortunate in many respects. Oda just had to abbreviate Roger's journey for the sake of the flashback's length. Also Luffy's journey is not over yet.
 
#44
Roger was gifted a road poneglyph from Whitebeard, so I can't really say he didn't have any help on his path to becoming PK. Also, he had significant plot armour when he faced Shiki who would have beaten him if not for the storm.
 
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#45
post skip Luffy is a shadow of his former self.
Another day...another one throwing another random buzzwords to justify their bullshit and ironically this is coming from some hardcore Zoro fans is laughable....

and another day, another stupid thread about the "plot armor" rant.....

Luffy had one "easily" from Zou just like Roger
Luffy had "easily" one from WCi just like Roger....oh wait...
Luffy has to fight Kaido and can take poneglyph "easily" just like Roger fought prime Kaido....oh wait....

And OP forgot to read chapter 0 or literally omitted Garp words about how some time Roger got lucky....or never heard of phrase "fortune favors the brave"....and mistaking luck for plot armor...and forgot the fact that Luffy luck comes from most of his actions.....pity the reading skills of OP and just wanted to make shit thread.....
 
#46
Akainu and the 3 admirals > Garp, Sengoku (The Navy is overall much stronger than it was during Roger's era)
Teach > Whitebeard
Prime BM and Kaido > BM and Kaido during Roger's era
17 year old Luffy was already responsible for beating 2 warlords and destroying 2 of the 3 main WG facilities.
The competition during Roger's era was also much smaller. It got bigger after Roger told people about One Piece and it increased even more when WB died.
 
#47
Yes he would've been a pirate but not the pk....What makes a person pk? Finding Roger's Treasure of course and that's what luffy is after since he set sail from east blue.
Being the freest person and all is good but it doesn't make you pk if you don't find the treasure. .
The freest person in the one piece world is the person who finds the treasure (and in order to do that,you need to conquer the grandline) not the person who roams freely on the sea with no purpose.
According to Luffy and Roger, being the freest in the world means being so powerful that nobody can stop you.
 
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