Future Events Why Sanji will Unlock CoC in the coming chapters
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Despite the clear bait and reverse psychology in the bottom, and your insulting of Sanji at the very beginning.
I agree with the theory, as it's everything we who like Sanji have been saying on Twitter for the last months.
It's prime timing for Sanji to unlock CoC to save Bonney, and fight Saturn with Luffy (given all the symbolism.)
He's also paralleling Luffy with the Nika stuff, and with Kuma just last chapter calling Nika a legend, and Bonney going into a alternate Nika form. I'm starting to think Oda's point will be "Anyone can be Nika when they need him," outside just the fruit. Given that Vegapunk said DFs were dreams and desires given form. Nika was probably always just an ideal made incarnate.
I agree with the theory, as it's everything we who like Sanji have been saying on Twitter for the last months.
It's prime timing for Sanji to unlock CoC to save Bonney, and fight Saturn with Luffy (given all the symbolism.)
He's also paralleling Luffy with the Nika stuff, and with Kuma just last chapter calling Nika a legend, and Bonney going into a alternate Nika form. I'm starting to think Oda's point will be "Anyone can be Nika when they need him," outside just the fruit. Given that Vegapunk said DFs were dreams and desires given form. Nika was probably always just an ideal made incarnate.
Just how these fires were being treated in the manga is self evident lol.
Akainu is said to have the DF with (one of the) highest offensive power. Amongst logia/elementals, it is certain.
Kaido's strongest attack is magma like flames, that Luffy (who pre advanced conqueror's and G5 easily tanked blast breath) was sure would kill him the moment it gets past the barrier.
Some amount of that fire leaking melted away horn of Onigashima.
King's strongest attack is magma like flames, that Zoro wanted to avoid rather than tank like his regular flames (he tanked a mountain level explosion from King's regular flames). Zoro especially noted the difference and commented on it.
But nah, dudes would ignore obvious manga implications to use real world logic.
Akainu is said to have the DF with (one of the) highest offensive power. Amongst logia/elementals, it is certain.
Kaido's strongest attack is magma like flames, that Luffy (who pre advanced conqueror's and G5 easily tanked blast breath) was sure would kill him the moment it gets past the barrier.
Some amount of that fire leaking melted away horn of Onigashima.
King's strongest attack is magma like flames, that Zoro wanted to avoid rather than tank like his regular flames (he tanked a mountain level explosion from King's regular flames). Zoro especially noted the difference and commented on it.
But nah, dudes would ignore obvious manga implications to use real world logic.
I know what you're thinking. Lanji? the cook? The pervert? the okama?
Just... Why...?
Well, plenty of people have made this thread before (mostly coping sanji fans). I'm just gonna try to explain why sanji will get coc and why it'll be in the next chapter or the one after that.
Basics
Why...? Just why...?
The first question is of course, why does he need coc? Doesn't the crew already have enough cocers with Luffy and Zoro? Why does the damn cook need coc?
To answer that, we need to look at the goal of luffy, the captain of the crew.
He intends to surpass Shanks and the Red hair pirate crew.
That has been one of the main goals of luffy. That promise to Shanks is his driving force as much as becoming King of the pirates or his secret dream is.
So why is that significant?
Well, shanks' crew has two coc users that we know of. Shanks and Beckman. So, if luffy's crew just has 2 coc users too, it would not be better than Shanks's crew. It would just be the same.
More over, Luffy and Luffy's crew has been modeled after the crew of the previous PK Roger. And what do you know, Roger pirates had 3 coc users at the time he became the PK. And a future conqueror in Shanks as well.
Rocks pirates, the Greatest enemy the Roger pirates faced, had at the very least 4 coc users that we know of.
One piece is a shonen story through and through. It's a basic shonen trope that the new generation surpasses the old ones.
So, if the SHP just has only 2 coc users, it would pale in comparison to Roger pirates and it wouldn't even come close to the Rocks pirates.
So, the SHP need more coc users.
What makes Sanji deserving of coc?
A very valid question. After all, sanji has been a huge L magnet and an undignified mess. What makes him a conqueror? He doesn't even have a cool dream like becoming the King of the Pirates or the WSS...
Well, as we have seen with characters like WB and Ace, the dreams and ambitions of the coc users doesn't really matter. WB just wanted a family. And Ace wanted to make WB the PK, not himself. So, sanji's dream being finding the all blue doesn't exclude him from being a coc user.
Something a lot of conqueror's have in common, and something that's been mentioned as a characteristic of a conqueror, has been, the ability to inspire people and make allies. To stand above others and command them.
That's something the cook has shown many times.
He has lead the crew in the absence of luffy and Zoro. He has made a fuckton of enemies into allies for the strawhats. He has also lead the enemies he turned to allies
And, like many other conquerors we have seen in the series. Sanji is literally Royalty. He's mr Prince.
So he fits a lot of the arbitrary characteristics of a conqueror.
What else...?
That's all pretty ironclad super tight evidence. But what else is there?
Well, Wano was a very tough arc for sanji fans. Their arch rival zoro not only unlocked coc AND acoc, he also fought two yonko along with the roof top 5, tanked a combined attack of two yonko and also scarred kaido as well.
where as sanji got punked by black maria's underlings and had to settle for Queen the number 3 of Kaido.
But, hidden in all those mountains of L's was this moment.
Oda once again reiterating that zoro and sanji are equal. Two halves of a whole. You cant have two wings with different sizes after all. It would just lead to luffy going in circles. the aerodynamics of a bird wont allow the bird to fly with two different wing sizes and would result in a very confused and sad bird.
AND,
We also had THIS in wano
Volume 100. titled Haoshoku, or (Haki of the supreme king for you non japanese knowing plebs).
And on that cover, theres luffy, zoro, ace and yamatoe who all have coc. And then there's also sanji.
Now, we all know how much of an autist Oda is. The man dragged out the wano arc just for luffy to get on the roof and punch kaido in exactly chapter 1000. And we all know his autistic retardness when it comes to goroawase and other shit like that. He is also a master of Foreskinning.
So, given all that, and taking into account his meticulousness when it comes to symbolism and foreskinning, i find it very hard to believe that Oda would have put sanji there if he wasn't gonna get coc. Oda the autist could have easily moved sanji to the cover of either volume 99 or volume 101. And just made the 100 volume cover Ace yamatoe and luffy and zoro. Two pairs of conquerors. It would have been aesthetically alright and there would have been ONLY cocers on the cover namer HAOSHOKU.
But oda didn't. He CHOSE to add sanji there. And if he didn't plan on giving sanji coc in the future, it would just be weird and would ruin that cover. So, taking into account Oda's autism, penchant for Goroawase, ability to foreskin and all that, we can only conclude that Oda was planning something with that cover. That he was FORESHADOWING sanji coc. And egghead is where he'll get it.
Main Stuff
Why Egghead?
Now that i have recapped the basic stuff, it's time to head into the MEAT of the theory.
Namely, why egghead?
So, as we all know, Luffy and zoro are the two favs of Oda. So it's pretty obvious that sanji would never have been allowed to unlock coc before zoro, or even in the same arc as zoro and acoc in the case of luffy. Because that would have overshadowed Oda's favorite little buggers. This has been a thing from the start. Sanji didn't get a bounty above 100mil until after post timeskip.
So, now that we've finished the arc that was wano, where zoro unlocked coc and acoc, and are now knee deep in the next arc that is Egghead, it is the perfect opportunity for sanji to get coc too. It wouldn't overshadow zoro or luffy at all now. Sanji would just be catching up. Coincidently, the next arc is more likely than not,
Elbaf. Which is the territory of Shanks. so it's fair to assume that that's where the fated reunion of Shanks and luffy will happen. And as i said at the start, Luffy will have a crew thats Better than shanks's. Sanji getting coc is huge for that.
How it will happen...
Now that i've convinced you all that he's gonna get coc in egghead, it's time to go into the specifics. The main part of this thread. The main point of this thread.
Sanji's portrayal sofar in egghead has been a mixed bag. While he did supposedly did as well/if not better against a Seraphim than Zoro or Luffy did with help, sanji also got hypetooled yet again by Saturn. The life of a designated worf effect character...
So how will it happen? How will he unlock the much coveted ability of coc?
Well, funny you should ask that. Why it'll be against the very character that hypetooled him a few moments ago in the arc before we dived into the heart wrenching flashback of Kuma. Yes. It'll be against one of the 5 elder stars of one piece. Saturn himself.
Take a look at the current situation right before we left for the Kuma flashback
Bonney is in big trouble right now. She's about to be shot to death by the marine fodder. Oda could have just made Saturn squish her to death or glare her to death or beat her to death or whatever. But Oda made Saturn choose an execution by bullets from fodder. He did that for a reason
And who's gonna save her?
Is it Zoro? The guy who's been extreme diffing Rob Lucci for multiple chapters?
Is it Luffy? The dude who expended all his stamina to make Kizaru rest for a few minutes? And is currently knocked out and helpless that Franky had to save his ass by punching him away from danger?
Will it be Kuma? The soulless walking corpse that's missing half his head and his leg, who has been flying to egghead last we saw him?
There's a chance. But even IF kuma arrives on time, the marine fodder can still shoot Bonney dead by the time it takes for him to get to the center of the island where Saturn and Bonney are. And Kuma is basically dead at this point. Most likely acting on the animalistic instincts left on his body like Lilith said. So his first objective may not be taking out all the fodder and saving bonney asap even if he does arrive in time. And he would also have to get through the marine warships and vice admirals all around the island too to reach Saturn. He's most likely to be used as a distraction at the last second with his bomb to allow for the SHP to escape from the Blockade of Marine warships.
Who else is there in the close vicinity that can save Bonney from getting shot to death by dozens of Marine fodder?
That's right!
He's gonna unlock his coc when Bonney is about to be shot to death, and knock out the fodder. That'll buy just enough time for luffy to regain consciousness or Kuma to arrive as the Kamikaze.
Even though Saturn has magical eye beam thing that pops heads of those he looks at, and he is strong enough for him to squeeze Bonney like a toy in his hands, he deliberately chose to make the execution of Bonney be through the guns of some fodder marines. Marines all lined up in a nice little circle around Saturn, punk and who else? That's right. Sanji.
They're in prime position to get a coc wave and get knocked out. Oda put them there and made the situation as it is for a purpose. And that is to have Sanji knock them out in a fit of rage with coc and save Bonney.
Also, As pointed out to me by @CoC: Color of Clowns
Look at what Sanji is saying right before we went into the flashback?
"Bonney Chan!", "All of you. Knock it off!!"
That's "Yamero" In japanese. Luffy has used the same words before he unleashed his coc to save someone in both Amazon lily and Marineford.
And the situation in Egghead is similar to Marineford as well.
Bonney, the daughter of a famous pirate, is being executed not by some strong WG character, but by some marine fodder. Just like ace was gonna get executed by some marine fodder executioners.
So yeah. Sanji is saving Bonney by unlocking coc.
Why Sanji?
Another important question is, why should sanji save Bonney? Why can't it be any of the others? What connection does Bonney and Sanji have?
Well, Sanji and Bonney both had fucked up childhoods. And both were born from evil fathers. Both of their parents are evil. And they both found their real dad's.
Though sanji doesn't really know this of course.
Regardless, Oda has been dropping breadcrumbs between Bonney and Sanji all arc long.
He hasn't been simping for Bonney at all. that's more to do with her age.
But, Sanji has been uncharacteristically kind and caring toward Bonney.
He himself made him the loyal dog of a hot girl like Stucci and followed stucci around like a good little dog.
But when he got word that Bonney was in trouble, he dropped his simping of Stucci and went to look for Bonney immediately.
He even abandoned protecting Nami and Robin as well.
And Oda has also shown Bonney taking an interest in Sanji as well.
Oda specifically makes Bonney mention Sanji's cooking AND his fighting prowess. He could have easily just made her mention how great of a cook he is. And she hadn't even seen Sanji in any tough fight yet either. But oda went out of his way to make Bonney mention his fighting capabilities.
It's clear that oda is making connections between the two. And what better way to pay off her comment about his fighting and the connections between them than to have it be the thing that saves her from her current predicament?
In short, Sanji will unlcok coc and knock out all the marine fodders aiming at Bonney's head and save her.
Someone else, Either Kuma or luffy, will deal with Saturn after Sanji buys them some time to arrive/wake the fuck up.
Just... Why...?
Well, plenty of people have made this thread before (mostly coping sanji fans). I'm just gonna try to explain why sanji will get coc and why it'll be in the next chapter or the one after that.
Basics
Why...? Just why...?
The first question is of course, why does he need coc? Doesn't the crew already have enough cocers with Luffy and Zoro? Why does the damn cook need coc?
To answer that, we need to look at the goal of luffy, the captain of the crew.
He intends to surpass Shanks and the Red hair pirate crew.
That has been one of the main goals of luffy. That promise to Shanks is his driving force as much as becoming King of the pirates or his secret dream is.
So why is that significant?
Well, shanks' crew has two coc users that we know of. Shanks and Beckman. So, if luffy's crew just has 2 coc users too, it would not be better than Shanks's crew. It would just be the same.
More over, Luffy and Luffy's crew has been modeled after the crew of the previous PK Roger. And what do you know, Roger pirates had 3 coc users at the time he became the PK. And a future conqueror in Shanks as well.
Rocks pirates, the Greatest enemy the Roger pirates faced, had at the very least 4 coc users that we know of.
One piece is a shonen story through and through. It's a basic shonen trope that the new generation surpasses the old ones.
So, if the SHP just has only 2 coc users, it would pale in comparison to Roger pirates and it wouldn't even come close to the Rocks pirates.
So, the SHP need more coc users.
What makes Sanji deserving of coc?
A very valid question. After all, sanji has been a huge L magnet and an undignified mess. What makes him a conqueror? He doesn't even have a cool dream like becoming the King of the Pirates or the WSS...
Well, as we have seen with characters like WB and Ace, the dreams and ambitions of the coc users doesn't really matter. WB just wanted a family. And Ace wanted to make WB the PK, not himself. So, sanji's dream being finding the all blue doesn't exclude him from being a coc user.
Something a lot of conqueror's have in common, and something that's been mentioned as a characteristic of a conqueror, has been, the ability to inspire people and make allies. To stand above others and command them.
That's something the cook has shown many times.
He has lead the crew in the absence of luffy and Zoro. He has made a fuckton of enemies into allies for the strawhats. He has also lead the enemies he turned to allies
And, like many other conquerors we have seen in the series. Sanji is literally Royalty. He's mr Prince.
So he fits a lot of the arbitrary characteristics of a conqueror.
What else...?
That's all pretty ironclad super tight evidence. But what else is there?
Well, Wano was a very tough arc for sanji fans. Their arch rival zoro not only unlocked coc AND acoc, he also fought two yonko along with the roof top 5, tanked a combined attack of two yonko and also scarred kaido as well.
where as sanji got punked by black maria's underlings and had to settle for Queen the number 3 of Kaido.
But, hidden in all those mountains of L's was this moment.
Oda once again reiterating that zoro and sanji are equal. Two halves of a whole. You cant have two wings with different sizes after all. It would just lead to luffy going in circles. the aerodynamics of a bird wont allow the bird to fly with two different wing sizes and would result in a very confused and sad bird.
AND,
We also had THIS in wano
Volume 100. titled Haoshoku, or (Haki of the supreme king for you non japanese knowing plebs).
And on that cover, theres luffy, zoro, ace and yamatoe who all have coc. And then there's also sanji.
Now, we all know how much of an autist Oda is. The man dragged out the wano arc just for luffy to get on the roof and punch kaido in exactly chapter 1000. And we all know his autistic retardness when it comes to goroawase and other shit like that. He is also a master of Foreskinning.
So, given all that, and taking into account his meticulousness when it comes to symbolism and foreskinning, i find it very hard to believe that Oda would have put sanji there if he wasn't gonna get coc. Oda the autist could have easily moved sanji to the cover of either volume 99 or volume 101. And just made the 100 volume cover Ace yamatoe and luffy and zoro. Two pairs of conquerors. It would have been aesthetically alright and there would have been ONLY cocers on the cover namer HAOSHOKU.
But oda didn't. He CHOSE to add sanji there. And if he didn't plan on giving sanji coc in the future, it would just be weird and would ruin that cover. So, taking into account Oda's autism, penchant for Goroawase, ability to foreskin and all that, we can only conclude that Oda was planning something with that cover. That he was FORESHADOWING sanji coc. And egghead is where he'll get it.
Main Stuff
Why Egghead?
Now that i have recapped the basic stuff, it's time to head into the MEAT of the theory.
Namely, why egghead?
So, as we all know, Luffy and zoro are the two favs of Oda. So it's pretty obvious that sanji would never have been allowed to unlock coc before zoro, or even in the same arc as zoro and acoc in the case of luffy. Because that would have overshadowed Oda's favorite little buggers. This has been a thing from the start. Sanji didn't get a bounty above 100mil until after post timeskip.
So, now that we've finished the arc that was wano, where zoro unlocked coc and acoc, and are now knee deep in the next arc that is Egghead, it is the perfect opportunity for sanji to get coc too. It wouldn't overshadow zoro or luffy at all now. Sanji would just be catching up. Coincidently, the next arc is more likely than not,
Elbaf. Which is the territory of Shanks. so it's fair to assume that that's where the fated reunion of Shanks and luffy will happen. And as i said at the start, Luffy will have a crew thats Better than shanks's. Sanji getting coc is huge for that.
How it will happen...
Now that i've convinced you all that he's gonna get coc in egghead, it's time to go into the specifics. The main part of this thread. The main point of this thread.
Sanji's portrayal sofar in egghead has been a mixed bag. While he did supposedly did as well/if not better against a Seraphim than Zoro or Luffy did with help, sanji also got hypetooled yet again by Saturn. The life of a designated worf effect character...
So how will it happen? How will he unlock the much coveted ability of coc?
Well, funny you should ask that. Why it'll be against the very character that hypetooled him a few moments ago in the arc before we dived into the heart wrenching flashback of Kuma. Yes. It'll be against one of the 5 elder stars of one piece. Saturn himself.
Take a look at the current situation right before we left for the Kuma flashback
Bonney is in big trouble right now. She's about to be shot to death by the marine fodder. Oda could have just made Saturn squish her to death or glare her to death or beat her to death or whatever. But Oda made Saturn choose an execution by bullets from fodder. He did that for a reason
And who's gonna save her?
Is it Zoro? The guy who's been extreme diffing Rob Lucci for multiple chapters?
Is it Luffy? The dude who expended all his stamina to make Kizaru rest for a few minutes? And is currently knocked out and helpless that Franky had to save his ass by punching him away from danger?
Will it be Kuma? The soulless walking corpse that's missing half his head and his leg, who has been flying to egghead last we saw him?
There's a chance. But even IF kuma arrives on time, the marine fodder can still shoot Bonney dead by the time it takes for him to get to the center of the island where Saturn and Bonney are. And Kuma is basically dead at this point. Most likely acting on the animalistic instincts left on his body like Lilith said. So his first objective may not be taking out all the fodder and saving bonney asap even if he does arrive in time. And he would also have to get through the marine warships and vice admirals all around the island too to reach Saturn. He's most likely to be used as a distraction at the last second with his bomb to allow for the SHP to escape from the Blockade of Marine warships.
Who else is there in the close vicinity that can save Bonney from getting shot to death by dozens of Marine fodder?
That's right!
He's gonna unlock his coc when Bonney is about to be shot to death, and knock out the fodder. That'll buy just enough time for luffy to regain consciousness or Kuma to arrive as the Kamikaze.
Even though Saturn has magical eye beam thing that pops heads of those he looks at, and he is strong enough for him to squeeze Bonney like a toy in his hands, he deliberately chose to make the execution of Bonney be through the guns of some fodder marines. Marines all lined up in a nice little circle around Saturn, punk and who else? That's right. Sanji.
They're in prime position to get a coc wave and get knocked out. Oda put them there and made the situation as it is for a purpose. And that is to have Sanji knock them out in a fit of rage with coc and save Bonney.
Also, As pointed out to me by @CoC: Color of Clowns
Look at what Sanji is saying right before we went into the flashback?
"Bonney Chan!", "All of you. Knock it off!!"
That's "Yamero" In japanese. Luffy has used the same words before he unleashed his coc to save someone in both Amazon lily and Marineford.
And the situation in Egghead is similar to Marineford as well.
Bonney, the daughter of a famous pirate, is being executed not by some strong WG character, but by some marine fodder. Just like ace was gonna get executed by some marine fodder executioners.
So yeah. Sanji is saving Bonney by unlocking coc.
Why Sanji?
Another important question is, why should sanji save Bonney? Why can't it be any of the others? What connection does Bonney and Sanji have?
Well, Sanji and Bonney both had fucked up childhoods. And both were born from evil fathers. Both of their parents are evil. And they both found their real dad's.
Though sanji doesn't really know this of course.
Regardless, Oda has been dropping breadcrumbs between Bonney and Sanji all arc long.
He hasn't been simping for Bonney at all. that's more to do with her age.
But, Sanji has been uncharacteristically kind and caring toward Bonney.
He himself made him the loyal dog of a hot girl like Stucci and followed stucci around like a good little dog.
But when he got word that Bonney was in trouble, he dropped his simping of Stucci and went to look for Bonney immediately.
He even abandoned protecting Nami and Robin as well.
And Oda has also shown Bonney taking an interest in Sanji as well.
Oda specifically makes Bonney mention Sanji's cooking AND his fighting prowess. He could have easily just made her mention how great of a cook he is. And she hadn't even seen Sanji in any tough fight yet either. But oda went out of his way to make Bonney mention his fighting capabilities.
It's clear that oda is making connections between the two. And what better way to pay off her comment about his fighting and the connections between them than to have it be the thing that saves her from her current predicament?
In short, Sanji will unlcok coc and knock out all the marine fodders aiming at Bonney's head and save her.
Someone else, Either Kuma or luffy, will deal with Saturn after Sanji buys them some time to arrive/wake the fuck up.
I know what you're thinking. Lanji? the cook? The pervert? the okama?
Just... Why...?
Well, plenty of people have made this thread before (mostly coping sanji fans). I'm just gonna try to explain why sanji will get coc and why it'll be in the next chapter or the one after that.
Basics
Why...? Just why...?
The first question is of course, why does he need coc? Doesn't the crew already have enough cocers with Luffy and Zoro? Why does the damn cook need coc?
To answer that, we need to look at the goal of luffy, the captain of the crew.
He intends to surpass Shanks and the Red hair pirate crew.
That has been one of the main goals of luffy. That promise to Shanks is his driving force as much as becoming King of the pirates or his secret dream is.
So why is that significant?
Well, shanks' crew has two coc users that we know of. Shanks and Beckman. So, if luffy's crew just has 2 coc users too, it would not be better than Shanks's crew. It would just be the same.
More over, Luffy and Luffy's crew has been modeled after the crew of the previous PK Roger. And what do you know, Roger pirates had 3 coc users at the time he became the PK. And a future conqueror in Shanks as well.
Rocks pirates, the Greatest enemy the Roger pirates faced, had at the very least 4 coc users that we know of.
One piece is a shonen story through and through. It's a basic shonen trope that the new generation surpasses the old ones.
So, if the SHP just has only 2 coc users, it would pale in comparison to Roger pirates and it wouldn't even come close to the Rocks pirates.
So, the SHP need more coc users.
What makes Sanji deserving of coc?
A very valid question. After all, sanji has been a huge L magnet and an undignified mess. What makes him a conqueror? He doesn't even have a cool dream like becoming the King of the Pirates or the WSS...
Well, as we have seen with characters like WB and Ace, the dreams and ambitions of the coc users doesn't really matter. WB just wanted a family. And Ace wanted to make WB the PK, not himself. So, sanji's dream being finding the all blue doesn't exclude him from being a coc user.
Something a lot of conqueror's have in common, and something that's been mentioned as a characteristic of a conqueror, has been, the ability to inspire people and make allies. To stand above others and command them.
That's something the cook has shown many times.
He has lead the crew in the absence of luffy and Zoro. He has made a fuckton of enemies into allies for the strawhats. He has also lead the enemies he turned to allies
And, like many other conquerors we have seen in the series. Sanji is literally Royalty. He's mr Prince.
So he fits a lot of the arbitrary characteristics of a conqueror.
What else...?
That's all pretty ironclad super tight evidence. But what else is there?
Well, Wano was a very tough arc for sanji fans. Their arch rival zoro not only unlocked coc AND acoc, he also fought two yonko along with the roof top 5, tanked a combined attack of two yonko and also scarred kaido as well.
where as sanji got punked by black maria's underlings and had to settle for Queen the number 3 of Kaido.
But, hidden in all those mountains of L's was this moment.
Oda once again reiterating that zoro and sanji are equal. Two halves of a whole. You cant have two wings with different sizes after all. It would just lead to luffy going in circles. the aerodynamics of a bird wont allow the bird to fly with two different wing sizes and would result in a very confused and sad bird.
AND,
We also had THIS in wano
Volume 100. titled Haoshoku, or (Haki of the supreme king for you non japanese knowing plebs).
And on that cover, theres luffy, zoro, ace and yamatoe who all have coc. And then there's also sanji.
Now, we all know how much of an autist Oda is. The man dragged out the wano arc just for luffy to get on the roof and punch kaido in exactly chapter 1000. And we all know his autistic retardness when it comes to goroawase and other shit like that. He is also a master of Foreskinning.
So, given all that, and taking into account his meticulousness when it comes to symbolism and foreskinning, i find it very hard to believe that Oda would have put sanji there if he wasn't gonna get coc. Oda the autist could have easily moved sanji to the cover of either volume 99 or volume 101. And just made the 100 volume cover Ace yamatoe and luffy and zoro. Two pairs of conquerors. It would have been aesthetically alright and there would have been ONLY cocers on the cover namer HAOSHOKU.
But oda didn't. He CHOSE to add sanji there. And if he didn't plan on giving sanji coc in the future, it would just be weird and would ruin that cover. So, taking into account Oda's autism, penchant for Goroawase, ability to foreskin and all that, we can only conclude that Oda was planning something with that cover. That he was FORESHADOWING sanji coc. And egghead is where he'll get it.
Main Stuff
Why Egghead?
Now that i have recapped the basic stuff, it's time to head into the MEAT of the theory.
Namely, why egghead?
So, as we all know, Luffy and zoro are the two favs of Oda. So it's pretty obvious that sanji would never have been allowed to unlock coc before zoro, or even in the same arc as zoro and acoc in the case of luffy. Because that would have overshadowed Oda's favorite little buggers. This has been a thing from the start. Sanji didn't get a bounty above 100mil until after post timeskip.
So, now that we've finished the arc that was wano, where zoro unlocked coc and acoc, and are now knee deep in the next arc that is Egghead, it is the perfect opportunity for sanji to get coc too. It wouldn't overshadow zoro or luffy at all now. Sanji would just be catching up. Coincidently, the next arc is more likely than not,
Elbaf. Which is the territory of Shanks. so it's fair to assume that that's where the fated reunion of Shanks and luffy will happen. And as i said at the start, Luffy will have a crew thats Better than shanks's. Sanji getting coc is huge for that.
How it will happen...
Now that i've convinced you all that he's gonna get coc in egghead, it's time to go into the specifics. The main part of this thread. The main point of this thread.
Sanji's portrayal sofar in egghead has been a mixed bag. While he did supposedly did as well/if not better against a Seraphim than Zoro or Luffy did with help, sanji also got hypetooled yet again by Saturn. The life of a designated worf effect character...
So how will it happen? How will he unlock the much coveted ability of coc?
Well, funny you should ask that. Why it'll be against the very character that hypetooled him a few moments ago in the arc before we dived into the heart wrenching flashback of Kuma. Yes. It'll be against one of the 5 elder stars of one piece. Saturn himself.
Take a look at the current situation right before we left for the Kuma flashback
Bonney is in big trouble right now. She's about to be shot to death by the marine fodder. Oda could have just made Saturn squish her to death or glare her to death or beat her to death or whatever. But Oda made Saturn choose an execution by bullets from fodder. He did that for a reason
And who's gonna save her?
Is it Zoro? The guy who's been extreme diffing Rob Lucci for multiple chapters?
Is it Luffy? The dude who expended all his stamina to make Kizaru rest for a few minutes? And is currently knocked out and helpless that Franky had to save his ass by punching him away from danger?
Will it be Kuma? The soulless walking corpse that's missing half his head and his leg, who has been flying to egghead last we saw him?
There's a chance. But even IF kuma arrives on time, the marine fodder can still shoot Bonney dead by the time it takes for him to get to the center of the island where Saturn and Bonney are. And Kuma is basically dead at this point. Most likely acting on the animalistic instincts left on his body like Lilith said. So his first objective may not be taking out all the fodder and saving bonney asap even if he does arrive in time. And he would also have to get through the marine warships and vice admirals all around the island too to reach Saturn. He's most likely to be used as a distraction at the last second with his bomb to allow for the SHP to escape from the Blockade of Marine warships.
Who else is there in the close vicinity that can save Bonney from getting shot to death by dozens of Marine fodder?
That's right!
He's gonna unlock his coc when Bonney is about to be shot to death, and knock out the fodder. That'll buy just enough time for luffy to regain consciousness or Kuma to arrive as the Kamikaze.
Even though Saturn has magical eye beam thing that pops heads of those he looks at, and he is strong enough for him to squeeze Bonney like a toy in his hands, he deliberately chose to make the execution of Bonney be through the guns of some fodder marines. Marines all lined up in a nice little circle around Saturn, punk and who else? That's right. Sanji.
They're in prime position to get a coc wave and get knocked out. Oda put them there and made the situation as it is for a purpose. And that is to have Sanji knock them out in a fit of rage with coc and save Bonney.
Also, As pointed out to me by @CoC: Color of Clowns
Look at what Sanji is saying right before we went into the flashback?
"Bonney Chan!", "All of you. Knock it off!!"
That's "Yamero" In japanese. Luffy has used the same words before he unleashed his coc to save someone in both Amazon lily and Marineford.
And the situation in Egghead is similar to Marineford as well.
Bonney, the daughter of a famous pirate, is being executed not by some strong WG character, but by some marine fodder. Just like ace was gonna get executed by some marine fodder executioners.
So yeah. Sanji is saving Bonney by unlocking coc.
Why Sanji?
Another important question is, why should sanji save Bonney? Why can't it be any of the others? What connection does Bonney and Sanji have?
Well, Sanji and Bonney both had fucked up childhoods. And both were born from evil fathers. Both of their parents are evil. And they both found their real dad's.
Though sanji doesn't really know this of course.
Regardless, Oda has been dropping breadcrumbs between Bonney and Sanji all arc long.
He hasn't been simping for Bonney at all. that's more to do with her age.
But, Sanji has been uncharacteristically kind and caring toward Bonney.
He himself made him the loyal dog of a hot girl like Stucci and followed stucci around like a good little dog.
But when he got word that Bonney was in trouble, he dropped his simping of Stucci and went to look for Bonney immediately.
He even abandoned protecting Nami and Robin as well.
And Oda has also shown Bonney taking an interest in Sanji as well.
Oda specifically makes Bonney mention Sanji's cooking AND his fighting prowess. He could have easily just made her mention how great of a cook he is. And she hadn't even seen Sanji in any tough fight yet either. But oda went out of his way to make Bonney mention his fighting capabilities.
It's clear that oda is making connections between the two. And what better way to pay off her comment about his fighting and the connections between them than to have it be the thing that saves her from her current predicament?
In short, Sanji will unlcok coc and knock out all the marine fodders aiming at Bonney's head and save her.
Someone else, Either Kuma or luffy, will deal with Saturn after Sanji buys them some time to arrive/wake the fuck up.
Just... Why...?
Well, plenty of people have made this thread before (mostly coping sanji fans). I'm just gonna try to explain why sanji will get coc and why it'll be in the next chapter or the one after that.
Basics
Why...? Just why...?
The first question is of course, why does he need coc? Doesn't the crew already have enough cocers with Luffy and Zoro? Why does the damn cook need coc?
To answer that, we need to look at the goal of luffy, the captain of the crew.
He intends to surpass Shanks and the Red hair pirate crew.
That has been one of the main goals of luffy. That promise to Shanks is his driving force as much as becoming King of the pirates or his secret dream is.
So why is that significant?
Well, shanks' crew has two coc users that we know of. Shanks and Beckman. So, if luffy's crew just has 2 coc users too, it would not be better than Shanks's crew. It would just be the same.
More over, Luffy and Luffy's crew has been modeled after the crew of the previous PK Roger. And what do you know, Roger pirates had 3 coc users at the time he became the PK. And a future conqueror in Shanks as well.
Rocks pirates, the Greatest enemy the Roger pirates faced, had at the very least 4 coc users that we know of.
One piece is a shonen story through and through. It's a basic shonen trope that the new generation surpasses the old ones.
So, if the SHP just has only 2 coc users, it would pale in comparison to Roger pirates and it wouldn't even come close to the Rocks pirates.
So, the SHP need more coc users.
What makes Sanji deserving of coc?
A very valid question. After all, sanji has been a huge L magnet and an undignified mess. What makes him a conqueror? He doesn't even have a cool dream like becoming the King of the Pirates or the WSS...
Well, as we have seen with characters like WB and Ace, the dreams and ambitions of the coc users doesn't really matter. WB just wanted a family. And Ace wanted to make WB the PK, not himself. So, sanji's dream being finding the all blue doesn't exclude him from being a coc user.
Something a lot of conqueror's have in common, and something that's been mentioned as a characteristic of a conqueror, has been, the ability to inspire people and make allies. To stand above others and command them.
That's something the cook has shown many times.
He has lead the crew in the absence of luffy and Zoro. He has made a fuckton of enemies into allies for the strawhats. He has also lead the enemies he turned to allies
And, like many other conquerors we have seen in the series. Sanji is literally Royalty. He's mr Prince.
So he fits a lot of the arbitrary characteristics of a conqueror.
What else...?
That's all pretty ironclad super tight evidence. But what else is there?
Well, Wano was a very tough arc for sanji fans. Their arch rival zoro not only unlocked coc AND acoc, he also fought two yonko along with the roof top 5, tanked a combined attack of two yonko and also scarred kaido as well.
where as sanji got punked by black maria's underlings and had to settle for Queen the number 3 of Kaido.
But, hidden in all those mountains of L's was this moment.
Oda once again reiterating that zoro and sanji are equal. Two halves of a whole. You cant have two wings with different sizes after all. It would just lead to luffy going in circles. the aerodynamics of a bird wont allow the bird to fly with two different wing sizes and would result in a very confused and sad bird.
AND,
We also had THIS in wano
Volume 100. titled Haoshoku, or (Haki of the supreme king for you non japanese knowing plebs).
And on that cover, theres luffy, zoro, ace and yamatoe who all have coc. And then there's also sanji.
Now, we all know how much of an autist Oda is. The man dragged out the wano arc just for luffy to get on the roof and punch kaido in exactly chapter 1000. And we all know his autistic retardness when it comes to goroawase and other shit like that. He is also a master of Foreskinning.
So, given all that, and taking into account his meticulousness when it comes to symbolism and foreskinning, i find it very hard to believe that Oda would have put sanji there if he wasn't gonna get coc. Oda the autist could have easily moved sanji to the cover of either volume 99 or volume 101. And just made the 100 volume cover Ace yamatoe and luffy and zoro. Two pairs of conquerors. It would have been aesthetically alright and there would have been ONLY cocers on the cover namer HAOSHOKU.
But oda didn't. He CHOSE to add sanji there. And if he didn't plan on giving sanji coc in the future, it would just be weird and would ruin that cover. So, taking into account Oda's autism, penchant for Goroawase, ability to foreskin and all that, we can only conclude that Oda was planning something with that cover. That he was FORESHADOWING sanji coc. And egghead is where he'll get it.
Main Stuff
Why Egghead?
Now that i have recapped the basic stuff, it's time to head into the MEAT of the theory.
Namely, why egghead?
So, as we all know, Luffy and zoro are the two favs of Oda. So it's pretty obvious that sanji would never have been allowed to unlock coc before zoro, or even in the same arc as zoro and acoc in the case of luffy. Because that would have overshadowed Oda's favorite little buggers. This has been a thing from the start. Sanji didn't get a bounty above 100mil until after post timeskip.
So, now that we've finished the arc that was wano, where zoro unlocked coc and acoc, and are now knee deep in the next arc that is Egghead, it is the perfect opportunity for sanji to get coc too. It wouldn't overshadow zoro or luffy at all now. Sanji would just be catching up. Coincidently, the next arc is more likely than not,
Elbaf. Which is the territory of Shanks. so it's fair to assume that that's where the fated reunion of Shanks and luffy will happen. And as i said at the start, Luffy will have a crew thats Better than shanks's. Sanji getting coc is huge for that.
How it will happen...
Now that i've convinced you all that he's gonna get coc in egghead, it's time to go into the specifics. The main part of this thread. The main point of this thread.
Sanji's portrayal sofar in egghead has been a mixed bag. While he did supposedly did as well/if not better against a Seraphim than Zoro or Luffy did with help, sanji also got hypetooled yet again by Saturn. The life of a designated worf effect character...
So how will it happen? How will he unlock the much coveted ability of coc?
Well, funny you should ask that. Why it'll be against the very character that hypetooled him a few moments ago in the arc before we dived into the heart wrenching flashback of Kuma. Yes. It'll be against one of the 5 elder stars of one piece. Saturn himself.
Take a look at the current situation right before we left for the Kuma flashback
Bonney is in big trouble right now. She's about to be shot to death by the marine fodder. Oda could have just made Saturn squish her to death or glare her to death or beat her to death or whatever. But Oda made Saturn choose an execution by bullets from fodder. He did that for a reason
And who's gonna save her?
Is it Zoro? The guy who's been extreme diffing Rob Lucci for multiple chapters?
Is it Luffy? The dude who expended all his stamina to make Kizaru rest for a few minutes? And is currently knocked out and helpless that Franky had to save his ass by punching him away from danger?
Will it be Kuma? The soulless walking corpse that's missing half his head and his leg, who has been flying to egghead last we saw him?
There's a chance. But even IF kuma arrives on time, the marine fodder can still shoot Bonney dead by the time it takes for him to get to the center of the island where Saturn and Bonney are. And Kuma is basically dead at this point. Most likely acting on the animalistic instincts left on his body like Lilith said. So his first objective may not be taking out all the fodder and saving bonney asap even if he does arrive in time. And he would also have to get through the marine warships and vice admirals all around the island too to reach Saturn. He's most likely to be used as a distraction at the last second with his bomb to allow for the SHP to escape from the Blockade of Marine warships.
Who else is there in the close vicinity that can save Bonney from getting shot to death by dozens of Marine fodder?
That's right!
He's gonna unlock his coc when Bonney is about to be shot to death, and knock out the fodder. That'll buy just enough time for luffy to regain consciousness or Kuma to arrive as the Kamikaze.
Even though Saturn has magical eye beam thing that pops heads of those he looks at, and he is strong enough for him to squeeze Bonney like a toy in his hands, he deliberately chose to make the execution of Bonney be through the guns of some fodder marines. Marines all lined up in a nice little circle around Saturn, punk and who else? That's right. Sanji.
They're in prime position to get a coc wave and get knocked out. Oda put them there and made the situation as it is for a purpose. And that is to have Sanji knock them out in a fit of rage with coc and save Bonney.
Also, As pointed out to me by @CoC: Color of Clowns
Look at what Sanji is saying right before we went into the flashback?
"Bonney Chan!", "All of you. Knock it off!!"
That's "Yamero" In japanese. Luffy has used the same words before he unleashed his coc to save someone in both Amazon lily and Marineford.
And the situation in Egghead is similar to Marineford as well.
Bonney, the daughter of a famous pirate, is being executed not by some strong WG character, but by some marine fodder. Just like ace was gonna get executed by some marine fodder executioners.
So yeah. Sanji is saving Bonney by unlocking coc.
Why Sanji?
Another important question is, why should sanji save Bonney? Why can't it be any of the others? What connection does Bonney and Sanji have?
Well, Sanji and Bonney both had fucked up childhoods. And both were born from evil fathers. Both of their parents are evil. And they both found their real dad's.
Though sanji doesn't really know this of course.
Regardless, Oda has been dropping breadcrumbs between Bonney and Sanji all arc long.
He hasn't been simping for Bonney at all. that's more to do with her age.
But, Sanji has been uncharacteristically kind and caring toward Bonney.
He himself made him the loyal dog of a hot girl like Stucci and followed stucci around like a good little dog.
But when he got word that Bonney was in trouble, he dropped his simping of Stucci and went to look for Bonney immediately.
He even abandoned protecting Nami and Robin as well.
And Oda has also shown Bonney taking an interest in Sanji as well.
Oda specifically makes Bonney mention Sanji's cooking AND his fighting prowess. He could have easily just made her mention how great of a cook he is. And she hadn't even seen Sanji in any tough fight yet either. But oda went out of his way to make Bonney mention his fighting capabilities.
It's clear that oda is making connections between the two. And what better way to pay off her comment about his fighting and the connections between them than to have it be the thing that saves her from her current predicament?
In short, Sanji will unlcok coc and knock out all the marine fodders aiming at Bonney's head and save her.
Someone else, Either Kuma or luffy, will deal with Saturn after Sanji buys them some time to arrive/wake the fuck up.
That candy isn't ignoring anything, making shit up and extrapolate Lanji's mid abilities is the current candy meta, for some of them it's their whole personality.
CoC is next on the list, a loud group is basing Lanji's whole existence around having CoC, they never talk about the abilities (Judge's handouts) he actually has.
CoC is next on the list, a loud group is basing Lanji's whole existence around having CoC, they never talk about the abilities (Judge's handouts) he actually has.
You say that based on nothing. I get that magma fire>regular fire. But that doesn't mean that it's the same as real magma. Nor does that mean it's better than blue fire with lightning coming out of it.
Sanji doesn't have just blue flames. He goes a step beyond that.
Youre trying to compare lightning not melting rubber. The concept of rubber insulating electricity isn't ignored. It's still there. Just like the color of the flame isn't ignored. It's still there.
Nothing suggest that flames don't follow the same natural law. Sure some elemental ideas may be stretched but they're never outright ignored.
That's like saying katakuri has better elasticity that luffy. Nothing suggest that it's true. Just your wishful thinking.
Until the manga shows that blue flames with lightning comes before "magma like" flames... I'll stick with the obvious truth.
And that truth is the fact that sanji has hotter flames than magma. Or magma like flames.
Magma has different properties than just fire. It's not a plasma like substance only. It includes molten rocks and gasses. It's clearly not the same as blue flames and attacks in a similar but different manner.
I'm just confused as to the proof that blue flames with Plasma are somehow a lower temperature. There's 0 proof. Just wishful thinking.
What we do know is that it's a feat only sanji has shown. A feat that happened right after sanji stated his flames are hotter than any other fire.
A feat held only by sanji. I think that's why you guys downplay it. This should be hyped. Instead yall talk the most shit
Sanji doesn't have just blue flames. He goes a step beyond that.
Youre trying to compare lightning not melting rubber. The concept of rubber insulating electricity isn't ignored. It's still there. Just like the color of the flame isn't ignored. It's still there.
Nothing suggest that flames don't follow the same natural law. Sure some elemental ideas may be stretched but they're never outright ignored.
That's like saying katakuri has better elasticity that luffy. Nothing suggest that it's true. Just your wishful thinking.
Until the manga shows that blue flames with lightning comes before "magma like" flames... I'll stick with the obvious truth.
And that truth is the fact that sanji has hotter flames than magma. Or magma like flames.
Magma has different properties than just fire. It's not a plasma like substance only. It includes molten rocks and gasses. It's clearly not the same as blue flames and attacks in a similar but different manner.
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I'm just confused as to the proof that blue flames with Plasma are somehow a lower temperature. There's 0 proof. Just wishful thinking.
What we do know is that it's a feat only sanji has shown. A feat that happened right after sanji stated his flames are hotter than any other fire.
A feat held only by sanji. I think that's why you guys downplay it. This should be hyped. Instead yall talk the most shit
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Will Sanji get CoC in Egghead: No
Will Sanji get CoC in the series: Maybe
Does Sanji deserve CoC: No
There are many characters that are much more deserving and better fits. What has Sanji got that say Killer or Denjiro doesn't? He is not that guy.
For me Hyougoro, Wyper and Hody Jones are much better candidates.
Will Sanji get CoC in the series: Maybe
Does Sanji deserve CoC: No
There are many characters that are much more deserving and better fits. What has Sanji got that say Killer or Denjiro doesn't? He is not that guy.
For me Hyougoro, Wyper and Hody Jones are much better candidates.
Blue flames didn't get any special hype from Queen, the way the magma flames got specifically hyped by both Luffy and Zoro, two giga tank characters.
Queen tanked like 10-20 hits from IJ Sanji, and probably would've came back for more if he was fresh.
Look at the contrast to magma like flames. Both Kaido and Luffy thought blazing bagua would kill Luffy if not for the barrier (Luffy tanked blast breath). Zoro hyped up King's magma flames and wanted to avoid it (Zoro tanked mountain level blast from regular flames).
Queen would probably die if he got in contact with Kaido's blazing bagua. I don't consider King's magma flames as strong as Kaido's, so it won't one shot Queen, but the way Zoro hyped it up, Queen is getting 2 or 3 shot by that attack.
And the hype of magma life flames are further hype for Akainu, whose DF already got wanked by Oda, name dropping it as the DF with highest offensive power. The ability that melted half the face and chest of Whitebeard (Sanji's IJ kicks ain't doing anything remote).
I won't go into real life physicals, where rubber should also get destroyed by lightning. Oda physics =/= reality.
Oda considers magma as peak of heat based ability in his manga, lots of precedence for that.
Magma > magma flames > blue flames > regular flames
Queen tanked like 10-20 hits from IJ Sanji, and probably would've came back for more if he was fresh.
Look at the contrast to magma like flames. Both Kaido and Luffy thought blazing bagua would kill Luffy if not for the barrier (Luffy tanked blast breath). Zoro hyped up King's magma flames and wanted to avoid it (Zoro tanked mountain level blast from regular flames).
Queen would probably die if he got in contact with Kaido's blazing bagua. I don't consider King's magma flames as strong as Kaido's, so it won't one shot Queen, but the way Zoro hyped it up, Queen is getting 2 or 3 shot by that attack.
And the hype of magma life flames are further hype for Akainu, whose DF already got wanked by Oda, name dropping it as the DF with highest offensive power. The ability that melted half the face and chest of Whitebeard (Sanji's IJ kicks ain't doing anything remote).
I won't go into real life physicals, where rubber should also get destroyed by lightning. Oda physics =/= reality.
Oda considers magma as peak of heat based ability in his manga, lots of precedence for that.
Magma > magma flames > blue flames > regular flames