Break Week Why the Sanji downplay is stupid and pathetic!!!

Why would you take a sure lose bet like that?
:whitepress:
It has been said that Sanji's focus is observation, and i dont even remenber him using regular armament haki, now you betting he has an advanced version of it? Who would train him on that? did you saw any samurai okama with Iva?
This is Wano arc that we're talking about. People are using armament haki left and right. Sanji should have at least a decent CoA to fight off against high tiers people. Sanji trained by himself. He doesn't need anybody to teach him anything.
 
This is Wano arc that we're talking about. People are using armament haki left and right. Sanji should have at least a decent CoA to fight off against high tiers people. Sanji trained by himself. He doesn't need anybody to teach him anything.
Soo, you think while even Luffy needed help to learn it, Sanji somehow managed to learn it by himself while making bentos for everyone.
:pepelit:

Have fun @ImmaIvanoM, you already won that one.
 

Doggo

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Soo, you think while even Luffy needed help to learn it, Sanji somehow managed to learn it by himself while making bentos for everyone.
:pepelit:

Have fun @ImmaIvanoM, you already won that one.
If you think about it, it would be actually really dumb from Oda to make Sanji not even try to learn it.
"We are going against some fucking dinosaurs and a dragon that are hard AF. Even with the Raid Suit, their endurance is simply too much. Oh Luffy is learning about some form of CoA that "pierces" through these absurd defenses. MAYBE I should try and learn it as well? NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH it's just a yonko crew. Not like I haven't seen what a yonko crew is capable of just a few weeks ago right?"
If Sanji didn't at least tried to pick it up and eventually "masters it" during his fight, it's just some arbitrary BS by Oda. Once again. :kayneshrug:
 
We are going against some fucking dinosaurs and a dragon that are hard AF. Even with the Raid Suit, their endurance is simply too much. Oh Luffy is learning about some form of CoA that "pierces" through these absurd defenses. MAYBE I should try and learn it as well? NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH it's just a yonko crew. Not like I haven't seen what a yonko crew is capable of just a few weeks ago right?"
I mean, Oda literally had Zoro's teacher be a complete asshole who for some reason didn't tell Zoro that this "Cut steel" technique can cut Logias as well

I wouldn't put it past him
 

Doggo

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Rayleigh: I'm gonna show you CoA Luffy. "uses the version that pierces through defense and Luffy learned just now at Wano". But I'm gonna teach you the black version. So it will look cooler in the manga and in the anime.
Luffy: look cool in the what?
Rayleigh: oh, nevermind. LOOK OVER THERE! SURPRISE OBSERVATION HAKI TRAINING! "knocks Luffy out". That was close.
 
If you think about it, it would be actually really dumb from Oda to make Sanji not even try to learn it.
"We are going against some fucking dinosaurs and a dragon that are hard AF. Even with the Raid Suit, their endurance is simply too much. Oh Luffy is learning about some form of CoA that "pierces" through these absurd defenses. MAYBE I should try and learn it as well? NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH it's just a yonko crew. Not like I haven't seen what a yonko crew is capable of just a few weeks ago right?"
If Sanji didn't at least tried to pick it up and eventually "masters it" during his fight, it's just some arbitrary BS by Oda. Once again. :kayneshrug:
Oh boy, brace yourself for WCI 2.0 if you expect that much out of Sanji, if Oda didnt show him training AT ALL unlike he did with Zoro and Luffy, and gave him a technology based power up not a haki one, why do you all still think he will magicaly get Ryou?
:suresure:
 

Doggo

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Oh boy, brace yourself for WCI 2.0 if you expect that much out of Sanji, if Oda didnt show him training AT ALL unlike he did with Zoro and Luffy, and gave him a technology based power up not a haki one, why do you all still think he will magicaly get Ryou?
:suresure:
Nah. There are so many narrative decisions that I dislike since the Time Skip happened, that this would just be one more little thing to add to the list. Problem is, I'm too invested in One Piece to stop, despite all the things that I hate about it now.
It's pretty much an addiction at this point. :funky:
 
Nah. There are so many narrative decisions that I dislike since the Time Skip happened, that this would just be one more little thing to add to the list. Problem is, I'm too invested in One Piece to stop, despite all the things that I hate about it now.
It's pretty much an addiction at this point. :funky:
Maybe it should stop once you stop reading two piece and start reading the same manga we all are reading. I wonder where you all take this idea that Sanji is all that strong when even pre-ts all his enemies where subpar, even Jabura who was the only decent one was far less impressive than Kaku.

:arnoling:
But seriously, Oda is taking Sanji into the technological route for a reason, and that reason is definely not soo that he could instantly master something that took Luffy training to get by magic, specialy when haki has nothing to do with technology.
 
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Doggo

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Maybe it should stop once you stop reading two piece and start reading the same manga we all are reading. I wonder where you all take this idea that Sanji is all that strong when even pre-ts all his enemies where subpar, even Jabura who was the only decent one was far less impressive than Kaku.

:arnoling:
But seriously, Oda is taking Sanji into the technological route for a reason, and that reason is definely not soo that he could instantly master something that took Luffy training to get by magic, specialy when haki has nothing to do with technology.
Nah fam. I'm reading One Piece. And Oda constantly putting Luffy, Zoro and Sanji side by side, making characters refer to them as "those three are monsters" "those three are this" "those three those three those three" it's not something done for nothing.
Now, would I prefer the cool suit waiter/cook, that (pardon me for the pun) KICKS ass, have a lot of cool moments where he outsmarts villains, had some hilarious fights (the fight against Mr2, and the "mellorine" gag is still one of the funniest and awesome things I've read in One Piece), or the generic "badass" sword guy?
To be fair, I didn't dislike a single SH before timeskip, but I was REALLY hoping for some character development.
Luffy is the same thing, Zoro doesn't struggle anymore, Sanji changed from the cool guy with perverted gag, to the perverted guy, chopper is pure merchandising trash, Nami and Robin became full pledged porn actresses, Usopp, for a BRIEF, VERY BRIEF, moment showed some potential. Got buffed and stuff, but reverted back to the same coward he was before. Franky is the same, but that's good. Franky is awesome. Brook is ok.
One Piece itself is older than its targeted audience. It's kinda inevitable to have these reactions to something that doesn't evolve at all.
As I said, i'm too addicted to stop, no matter how much these things bores me. But man I will drop dead before I think that Enma cutting the cliff scene was cool. That was just cringe. The "sword doesn't obey right away" thing happened with shuusui already. It's the SAME THING, now more exaggerated.
I REALLY hope that Zoro gets a cool fight again. These "oh i'm gonna trash talk you and beat yo ass with one shots" fights are plain boring. Pretty panels, but I can get better panels and scenes reading other stuff. Give me some Zoro vs Mr1 stuff again. :seriously:
 
If you think about it, it would be actually really dumb from Oda to make Sanji not even try to learn it.
"We are going against some fucking dinosaurs and a dragon that are hard AF. Even with the Raid Suit, their endurance is simply too much. Oh Luffy is learning about some form of CoA that "pierces" through these absurd defenses. MAYBE I should try and learn it as well? NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH it's just a yonko crew. Not like I haven't seen what a yonko crew is capable of just a few weeks ago right?"
If Sanji didn't at least tried to pick it up and eventually "masters it" during his fight, it's just some arbitrary BS by Oda. Once again. :kayneshrug:
Why are people complicating this shit, Sanji has an elemental ability........ Do you know how powerful fire can be?
With the Ancient Zoan Dinosaurs Oda could just make Sanji's fire hotter to justify him getting through their defenses. (which is probably the route Oda's gonna go tbh) Its that Simple......Oda doesn't need to give Sanji Ryuo.

Ryuo is needed for Kaido's scales specifically, not the Dinosaurs.
 
Nah fam. I'm reading One Piece. And Oda constantly putting Luffy, Zoro and Sanji side by side, making characters refer to them as "those three are monsters" "those three are this" "those three those three those three" it's not something done for nothing.
Constantly is a stretch.

The last M3 moment like this I can remember happening was in Fishman Island, and that was years ago. He’s had the chance to do it in Wano and hasn’t.
 

Cyrus the Cactus

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I mean, Oda literally had Zoro's teacher be a complete asshole who for some reason didn't tell Zoro that this "Cut steel" technique can cut Logias as well

I wouldn't put it past him
I doubt a group of Wano expats in the East Blue would know much about Devil Fruits. DFs were rare in the East Blue, and the people of Wano don't seem to know much about them either.
 
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